Roast Sack Horse

Sack Longmire tomorrow?

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Horse talking about making grand finals being an achievement is the biggest cop out ever. The fact that we got absolutely belted in 3 of the last 4 voids the argument.

If you make the grand final and you're competitive and lose to the better team on the day, fair play, fans can accept that. But 3 beltings, and that's considered an achievement? If he truly believes that, then he's delusional and thats probably part of the problem.

Can someone name a coach that has a poorer grand final record?

Since 1990, we have 3 of the 10 worst defeats in 35 grand finals.

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I'll happily debate anyone who thinks Horse didn't inherit the 2012 flag.
 

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GoTheSwannies said:
Horse talking about making grand finals being an achievement is the biggest cop out ever. The fact that we got absolutely belted in 3 of the last 4 voids the argument.

If you make the grand final and you're competitive and lose to the better team on the day, fair play, fans can accept that. But 3 beltings, and that's considered an achievement? If he truly believes that, then he's delusional and thats probably part of the problem.

Can someone name a coach that has a poorer grand final record?

Since 1990, we have 3 of the 10 worst defeats in 35 grand finals.

119
89
81
80
74
63
61
60
60

I'll happily debate anyone who thinks Horse didn't inherit the 2012 flag.
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The only coaches with a comparable poor record are Ross Lyon- 4 grand finals for 0 wins (had the draw) and Rodney Eade coached more than Horse for no premierships at all.

Other coaches get shipped off or walk- like Blight did from Geelong , Horse could here and maybe a fresh start elsewhere helps him too.
 
Heeney2Franklin said:
When you go through a full of list of players several times and the same results occur it cant be anything else other than coaching/instructions right?? i dunno seems a massive coincidence.
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This club has had only 37 players play 200 games or more in its history.

Horse has coached 15 of them . Remember that's 37 in 138 years and he has almost half.
 
The King! said:
The only coaches with a comparable poor record are Ross Lyon- 4 grand finals for 0 wins (had the draw) and Rodney Eade coached more than Horse for no premierships at all.

Other coaches get shipped off or walk- like Blight did from Geelong , Horse could here and maybe a fresh start elsewhere helps him too.
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It almost feels as though Horse has made just about every error he could have made and will (or should) be better for it. I just don't have trust that he will based on past experience.

He'll get another gig elsewhere if he wants it, and will probably have some success. I just feel as though he's had his chances with us and think it's time for someone new after 2025.

I can't see this team winning next year unless there's a significant change in the make up of our best 22. We have too many players who crumble when the stakes get too high.
 
The King! said:
This club has had only 37 players play 200 games or more in its history.

Horse has coached 15 of them . Remember that's 37 in 138 years and he has almost half.
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I dont think we can read too much into that. Given AFL has become much more professional over the last 3 decades, I'd expect other clubs to be similar in that respect.

You'd have to do a comparison against other clubs during the same period to ascertain whether its a meaningful stat.

There's no doubt he's been in charge of very talented lists in his time though.
 
GoTheSwannies said:
I dont think we can read too much into that. Given AFL has become much more professional over the last 3 decades, I'd expect other clubs to be similar in that respect.

You'd have to do a comparison against other clubs during the same period to ascertain whether its a meaningful stat.

There's no doubt he's been in charge of very talented lists in his time though.
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Maybe I guess my point being even allowing for that we have had arguably the most talent we have ever hard the last 10 years.

Well in my opinion at least
 
GoTheSwannies said:
Horse talking about making grand finals being an achievement is the biggest cop out ever. The fact that we got absolutely belted in 3 of the last 4 voids the argument.

If you make the grand final and you're competitive and lose to the better team on the day, fair play, fans can accept that. But 3 beltings, and that's considered an achievement? If he truly believes that, then he's delusional and thats probably part of the problem.

Can someone name a coach that has a poorer grand final record?

Since 1990, we have 3 of the 10 worst defeats in 35 grand finals.

119
89
81
80
74
63
61
60
60

I'll happily debate anyone who thinks Horse didn't inherit the 2012 flag.
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This! Go look at Brisbane fans last year, they would have been disappointed and upset but not angry or frustrated
 
MR0808 said:
This! Go look at Brisbane fans last year, they would have been disappointed and upset but not angry or frustrated
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Not angry or frustrated cause there team turned up …
Put on a massive performance to only go down by a goal against a red hot team on there home deck
They should of and would of been proud so no frustration required
When ya team is the best all year and don’t give a yelp and get smacked and embarrassed ya gunna get frustrated amd angry fans
 
MR0808 said:
This! Go look at Brisbane fans last year, they would have been disappointed and upset but not angry or frustrated
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they would have been proud

its not a feeling i remember well. the sheer humiliation of a team that cant win it, cant keep it, cant tackle

the what went wrong when you watch the game includes coaching. its not just that they executed it wrongly.
 

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Well we need a coach that brings premierships I know am upset at horse for the grand final that Brisbane beat us but what options of coach you reckon can bring us a premiership we made finals tons of time look at the standards we need a premiership not getting wiped away at grand finals
 
rustycrate said:
Who is your replacement.
You are happy to get rid of him.

Would like to know your succession plan. Name names and reasons why they would be better..
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What nonsense.

Hope you don't make important decisions in any business.
 
Humphry B Bear would be a better option than Horse. Horse hasn't come out with anything that resembles an honest assessment of the last 2 GF efforts.

I don't expect in depth specifics but at least give the fans a framework of things that need to be worked on instead of bulltish cliches.

It's really disappointing that all we've heard is at least we were there and it doesn't define us.

At least Humphry would have more to say
 
Superstar swan said:
If the shoe was on the other foot and we were looking for a coach in 2025, I wonder how many would be banging the door down to bring horse and his grand final humiliations to the club
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Get Adam Simpson in at least he learned lessons from a Grand Final defeat .

Horse to be fair would get another job IMO, a change of scenery might actually get the best out of him.
 
Troystenvic said:
Humphry B Bear would be a better option than Horse. Horse hasn't come out with anything that resembles an honest assessment of the last 2 GF efforts.

I don't expect in depth specifics but at least give the fans a framework of things that need to be worked on instead of bulltish cliches.

It's really disappointing that all we've heard is at least we were there and it doesn't define us.

At least Humphry would have more to say
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You need a shortlist and to set up an interview panel please
 
Superstar swan said:
No doubt he would get a job, but would he be your first choice to bring into the club ?
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I am not authorised to conduct a coaching search 🤣. I just know doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is madness. Also trying to redefine success when there is a clear prize (premiership) to justify keeping someone is bonkers .
 

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