SALADA/VladFL: Slap on the wrist. - STRICTLY ESSENDON SUPPORTERS ONLY

[Bark Maguley]

Melksham (for all my early misgivings) has turned into an important player for our club. We should not underestimate the importance of him signing. The club is still operating and going about its business.

I believe the players still love this club and want to be at this club. The new HPC is great and they are just looking forward to this being over and to enjoying premiership success. Put it this way.. would you rather be at St Kilda??

wrong thread - search for 'bash'

 

[kfc1]

Anyone got time for some serious deconstruction of the 34-page charge sheet?

 

[Tait]

Brings a whole new aspect to diversity round too.

Huzzah! 2020 Essendon FC team photo.

I'm sorry. I tried.

 

[Alfred E Neuman]

Anyone got time for some serious deconstruction of the 34-page charge sheet?

Let's do it.

 

[Mr Mojo Risin]

I find life to be much better letting them foam with each other.

I have only ventured there about 3 times total, completely not worth it from my perspective. Some people enjoy it, I just can't be assed.

I go there every now and again. It makes me feel smart.

 

[Mr Mojo Risin]

Huzzah! 2020 Essendon FC team photo.

I'm sorry. I tried.

Hmmm, no AFL logos. Will we not be in the league anymore?!

 

[yaco55]

Only two of them are core players at the moment. Hooker and tbell.

Couple of youngsters who havnt been able to get a game and some old guys that would struggle to get a contract elsewhere. Not the end of days.

I do agree with you on draft picks though, however I don't think throwing our greatest living player under the bus to keep them is worth it. There are some things you don't do.

Read the list again.

 

[Mercurial89]

Sounds like BS to me - Cerberus saying "smell a whiff of desperation" which would be in relation to the other side

Just a quick one. Does Cerberus have many runs on the board?

A lot of the statements that have been posted here at least seem fairly open ended statements that people then attribute to circumstances that arise. Bit like a cold reader throwing out broad saying to get a hit.

 

[yaco55]

I will re-iterate - I wont accept an offer that takes away points or draft picks.

This is because our sins are governance issues.

And if the Board agrees to loss of points we won't play our last two games.

 

[Mercurial89]

Read the list again.

Have. And stand by my point it's not THAT bad. I'm not saying your wrong but you may be jumping a bit.

Or are you more worried about the young guys and us not getting good kids to replace them?

If so I'd argue we have done well out of rookie and psd drafts. Plus free agency. I don't this it is AS bad as your making out.

But difference of opinion ain't bad

 

[B 52]

I go there every now and again. It makes me feel smart.

I only go there to ascertain Foam Levels.
High Foam levels=We are doing something right or we have had a positive article written for us.
Medium Foam Levels=The status Quo.
Low Foam Levels=No Bomber posters could be farked posting for a while.

 

[Andronicus]

Brings a whole new aspect to diversity round too.

Or regular round as they refer to it in Tasmania and South Australia.

 

[yaco55]

Have. And stand by my point it's not THAT bad. I'm not saying your wrong but you may be jumping a bit.

Or are you more worried about the young guys and us not getting good kids to replace them?

If so I'd argue we have done well out of rookie and psd drafts. Plus free agency. I don't this it is AS bad as your making out.

But difference of opinion ain't bad

Would you re-sign a contract if we lost points in 2014.

This is what I mean.

EFC needs to sort out a fair and reasonable penalty as quickly as possible.

 

[HirdyLannister]

Anyone got time for some serious deconstruction of the 34-page charge sheet?

Just email Sammy Newman and ask for his?

 

[Red Black and Blue]

Read the list again.

Bellchambers, Tom - 2013
Fletcher, Dustin - 2013
Winderlich, Jason - 2013
Crameri, Stewart - 2013
Pears, Tayte - 2013
Browne, Alex - 2013
Colyer, Travis - 2013
O'Brien, Nicholas - 2013
Hooker, Cale - 2013

These are the ones I really hope we keep. Though I wouldn't be opposed to a Bellchambers trade.

 

[Tait]

Hmmm, no AFL logos. Will we not be in the league anymore?!

That was the VFL team?

Better? Haha.

 

[Mercurial89]

I think a fair punishment for governance. And I don't mean duty of care and all that but strictly governance

1.5-2mill fine
AFL mediated training for all essendon officials.
Heavy auditing of club for next few years
Then a sweetener for the AFL, forfeit first draft pick for this year.

That is what I feel a governance issue requires. Look at a business. If a error is made or found extensive retraining and new processes are designed.

Now we have put in new practices apparantly.
And we have lost the entire management chain for the affected department.

So far 4 people have lost their jobs, or 5 if you include Evans.

I'd say we have been punished. (governance wise)

 

[Mr Mojo Risin]

Would you re-sign a contract if we lost points in 2014.

This is what I mean.

EFC needs to sort out a fair and reasonable penalty as quickly as possible.

Can tell you now. That will not happen, I would be happy to wager with you.

 

[EnolaGay]

I can accept that deal disgruntlely, but the EFC should bargin back with.
"if we get Hird to drop the court case against you Vlad, we want Hird's penalty reduce to 3 months suspension only. "

I totally disagree, I'd rather any deal leave the door open for the 4 Horsemen to continue their case(s). I want Vlad Inc feeling the full glare of testifying in the Supreme Court. That is the only way they'll ever get their names cleared. Any other arrangement will leave them tainted.

 

[Mercurial89]

Would you re-sign a contract if we lost points in 2014.

This is what I mean.

EFC needs to sort out a fair and reasonable penalty as quickly as possible.

We won't lose point in 2014. That's just not logical.

Besides how long is the off season? Plenty of time to sort that out. If we don't lose points this year when we may have had any benefit from and banned substances they won't take them in 2014.

 

[The Jet]

Bellchambers, Tom - 2013
Fletcher, Dustin - 2013
Winderlich, Jason - 2013
Crameri, Stewart - 2013
Pears, Tayte - 2013
Browne, Alex - 2013
Colyer, Travis - 2013
O'Brien, Nicholas - 2013
Hooker, Cale - 2013

These are the ones I really hope we keep. Though I wouldn't be opposed to a Bellchambers trade.

Pretty sure Crameri is gone, the lad just doesn't give enough to the team anymore.

The others will stay. Fletcher & Winderlich 1 season deals. Pears, Browne & Colyer 2 season deals. O'Brien & Hooker 3 season deals i would think.

Also, Bellchambers has ALMOST signed a new deal for the last 3-4 weeks. Can't see him going anywhere

 

[Andronicus]

If we take a deal, it should be an Interim Deal where we can continue to fight and know that we are compensated greatly for any sanctions we later show weren't warranted.

 

[Tait]

That was the VFL team?

Better? Haha.

Also note that the far right isn't anybodies son. It's just Fletcher. He is still playing 20 years from now.

 

[EnolaGay]

Would you re-sign a contract if we lost points in 2014.

This is what I mean.

EFC needs to sort out a fair and reasonable penalty as quickly as possible.

In fairness Yaco, I'm pretty sure that's what EFC has been trying to do, it's just that Darth Vlad and the Empire want it all.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Do you reckon Hird will comeback if he steps down? what if he promises the players?