Coach Sam Mitchell's direction for the club and 2024 news

[Strapping Young Lad]

If anyone wants to have a listen about what the data is saying in regards to whether we have actually gotten worse this year have a listen to this from the 9:15 mark.

I know a few people have already touched on it, but the data is also showing that our results this year have been slightly better despite actually putting out a younger team and dealing with some injuries.




And here.

 

[Roddy]

Oh boy, just looked more closely at our fixture, the next 4 weeks are going to tell exactly where we stand.

Even stretch that to 5, as even though the bummers are putrid, they always seem to play their GF against us...

 

[offtherails9]

Oh boy, just looked more closely at our fixture, the next 4 weeks are going to tell exactly where we stand.

Even stretch that to 5, as even though the bummers are putrid, they always seem to play their GF against us...

We will win this week and next at least.

 

[The hands of stone]

Oh boy, just looked more closely at our fixture, the next 4 weeks are going to tell exactly where we stand.

Even stretch that to 5, as even though the bummers are putrid, they always seem to play their GF against us...

Its a tough month , but its exactly what we want the young guys exposed too.
Would rather that then cherry picking a few cheap wins.

After that the fixture opens up , plenty of very winnable games .

 

[Pessimistic]

Got caught out in one quarter. Best centre bounce scoring team. Still conceded just a touch over 70 points which is our average over 9 rounds now which can be built on

 

[Hawthorn23]

 

[Pessimistic]

Intelligent questioning

 

[Pessimistic]

Got caught out in one quarter. Best centre bounce scoring team. Still conceded just a touch over 70 points which is our average over 9 rounds now which can be built on

What’s our points conceded per inside d50? It must be off the scale

 

[QuietB]

What’s our points conceded per inside d50? It must be off the scale

Inside 50 stats are;

R1 - 49 (1.18 per I50)
R2 - 58 (.96 per I50)
R3 - 64 (1.16 per I50)

Rebound 50 stats are;

R1 - 44 (+7)
R2 - 48 (+24)
R3 - 52 (+17)

 

[MrPremiership]

What’s our points conceded per inside d50? It must be off the scale

In the first 3 rounds, we've conceded 175 inside 50s, for scores against of 188.

Melbourne, by comparson, have conded 150 inside 50s, for a score againt of 210

North have conceded 177 inside 50s, for a score against of 296

Team	Inside 50s conceded	Points Conceded
Hawthorn	175	188
Melbourne	150	210
North Melbourne	177	296

 

[Pessimistic]

Is it too risky to use the half backs with a bit of toe running off the back of the square at centre bounces? We would need Ned to use his attributes to start whacking the ball to space though

 

[Pessimistic]

Was just looking at our points against average over 9 games or so. About 75pts average

Only one team has missed finals recently averaging that over a whole season

Hawthorn 2019

 

[rei154]

This weeks coaching craft was really insightful imo.
I feel like our gameplan when it has been its most successful has been a combination of defensive positioning and bursting through the oppos mistakes which is great to see.

Sam clearly has a great understanding of the strengths of our side at the moment- the fact that we've taken such a defensive approach to things for the last five odd years can't be just gutted and thrown out, but it's clear that our attacking brand is being built off of the back of our defensive nous around the ground.

 

[GerryLewis]

This weeks coaching craft was really insightful imo.
I feel like our gameplan when it has been its most successful has been a combination of defensive positioning and bursting through the oppos mistakes which is great to see.

Sam clearly has a great understanding of the strengths of our side at the moment- the fact that we've taken such a defensive approach to things for the last five odd years can't be just gutted and thrown out, but it's clear that our attacking brand is being built off of the back of our defensive nous around the ground.

I really enjoyed this segment also. I haven't seen the last two, it's not in the members only section that I can see and I can't find any emails about it. Where can I access it?

 

[James Buchanan]

I really enjoyed this segment also. I haven't seen the last two, it's not in the members only section that I can see and I can't find any emails about it. Where can I access it?

I've had similar issues accessing them. I really enjoyed the week 1 video here: Coaching Craft | Round 1 - Gut running on display, it was super insightful.

Do you have a link to the week 3 one?

 

[GerryLewis]

I've had similar issues accessing them. I really enjoyed the week 1 video here: Coaching Craft | Round 1 - Gut running on display, it was super insightful.

Do you have a link to the week 3 one?

Unfortunately not. Ive only been able to access the Round 1 link also.

 

[MatteeG]

Is it too risky to use the half backs with a bit of toe running off the back of the square at centre bounces? We would need Ned to use his attributes to start whacking the ball to space though

They have to start inside the back 50 though so need put the jets on early!

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Unfortunately not. Ive only been able to access the Round 1 link also.

The link is in the clubs weekly update email.

 

[Denver Day Lewis]

It seems like the direction today for the midfield was 'nowhere'. Disappointing.

 

[The Spirit of Cricket]

today wasn't fun to watch but in my opinion the grander scheme of things is still very easy to see and I'm 100% behind Sam's vision

 

[MrPremiership]

2022 was always going to have its ups and downs.

We've seen a down now

 

[Pessimistic]

Saints game was the low point r7 last year too

 

[The Offerman]

Third absolute hiding the Saints have handed us since 2017. We're going to have games like this. Our backline, while shaping very nicely is very raw both in times of size and games. Losing the midfield battle week in, week out will lead to games where we just don't cope. Our skills were particularly poor though, I'd imagine St Kilda's scores from turnovers would have been very high.

Trust Sam's process.

 

[extractasam]

Third absolute hiding the Saints have handed us since 2017. We're going to have games like this. Our backline, while shaping very nicely is very raw both in times of size and games. Losing the midfield battle week in, week out will lead to games where we just don't cope. Our skills were particularly poor though, I'd imagine St Kilda's scores from turnovers would have been very high.

Trust Sam's process.

110 pts from turnovers is what Harvey said post match

 

[CliffMcTainshaw]

Anyone know what's happening with Fionn O'Hara. Hasn't played at Box Hill and doesn't seem to be injured. Is he playing at one of Box Hills feeder clubs to get experience?

 

[The Chad and I]

So far it's panning out quite well.
Developing young players.
Seeing more consistency and/or breakout form from the younger players.
Surprises to the upside and downside.
Competitive most weeks.

More attacking intent is a very welcome change.