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Scarlett vs. Glass
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how good is your memory nemo? People have short memories
exactly what was scarlett doing two-five years ago? beating off? Having Harly fit,but more importantly, egan in the side has allowed scarlett to be more damaging. Im still out on the whole scarlett-glass thing.wait till glass gets better defenders around him, like scarlett does now, but didnt earlier,and then judge.
im sure if harley was unfit and egan was playing tennis, scarlett would be playing the same role as a few years ago. just because geelong has depth, doesnt mean you can under estimate the role scarlett CAN perform.
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yeah, explained inexplicably. what i was trying to say but......quicker, and made more sense?
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Over the course of 2006 and 2007? Glass by a fair stretch
Over the course of their entire careers? Scarlett
This might stir some controversy but Glass is the single most important player in our team *flinches in fear of attack from Kerr lovers*. I mean, let's face it, our forward line, while considerably improved, is not quite where it should be. We involve ourselves more with low-scoring slog games than with shootouts. Our defenders find themselves playing on a double-edged sword: if they let goals slip then they don't necessarily have the luxury of having a forward line good enough to make up for them. Whereas Scarlett would have the slightly better luxury of knowing that he's got a forward line (Mooney, Johnson, Chapman) who can pick up the pieces.
Over the course of their entire careers? Scarlett
This might stir some controversy but Glass is the single most important player in our team *flinches in fear of attack from Kerr lovers*. I mean, let's face it, our forward line, while considerably improved, is not quite where it should be. We involve ourselves more with low-scoring slog games than with shootouts. Our defenders find themselves playing on a double-edged sword: if they let goals slip then they don't necessarily have the luxury of having a forward line good enough to make up for them. Whereas Scarlett would have the slightly better luxury of knowing that he's got a forward line (Mooney, Johnson, Chapman) who can pick up the pieces.
I'm very glad that the Eagles have Glass as our full back, I am sure that all Geelong supporters are glad that they have Scarlett. They both do very good, albeit different, jobs for their team. As already mentioned Scarlett provides greater run than Glass, but other Geelong defenders cover for him. Glass always has the No. 1 forward is often isolated one on one with him. The amount of time that the ball comes into the Eagles defensive 50 and the only 2 people there are Glass and his opponent, and Glass wins is amazing. I think that within the Eagles game plan Glass' job is to stop his opponent from scoring goals, I don't think anyone can do that job better than Glass. I'm not saying that makes him a better or worse fullback than Scarlett, just that he does he needs (has) to do.
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Scarlett over his career, though Glass will overtake him at the end of both.
Glass at the moment, too.
Glass at the moment, too.
did you read anything i said? what you just described was scarlett 4 years ago
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I'm a Kerr lover, but I agree with you. Glass most important, Kerr best player. They're two seperate categories.
was simply making a comparison on how they play now. scarlett plays the role he plays better than anyone in the league. he is like a combination of both glass and fletcher. but given the way the two play now, they play different roles.
i wasnt having a dig at scarlett, in fact i never actually gave a preference to either, both are at a comparable standard that my preference would purely be based on the defense that i would have around them.
With regards to the comment that Scarlett gets the lesser forwards and Glass gets the number 1 forward each week, it's a bit of a stretch. 99% of the time they play on the same opponent because they are both FBs so play on the opposition's FF. For example Scarlett played on Westhoff against Port and so did Glass, only Glass had 3 or 4 kicked on him whereas Scarlett had only 2. About the only difference would be against Brown, who kicked 4 on Glass in their last matchup. Someone mentioned about Glass playing on Pavlich, but Hunter always gets Pavlich.
Having seen a lot of both players it really depends on what your team needs. Glass is a bit bigger and stronger than Scarlett, so does better against the real big forwards, but that's pretty much limited to Brown and Rocca (and we all saw what Scarlett did to Rocca twice this year). Scarlett does provide more run from defence and probably sets up more goals than his opponents kick each week. As a viewer, Scarlett's obviously better to watch as he takes more risks and generally tries to mark the bll, rather than punch as Glass does, which can sometimes leave him a little exposed. Both have pretty good support acts, with Scarlett having the likes of Milburn, Mackie Hunt and Enright helping him out, while Glass has Wirrapanda, Waters, Hurn, Selwood and Jones to tidy up his spills. Also given the attacking style of Geelong tends to expose defences more than West Coast's "numbers back" style, you'd probably add some pointto Scarlett there as well.
Given that they both deserved an AA spot, you couldn't exactly put a pure stopper in the back pocket with a rebounding player at FB could you?
Having seen a lot of both players it really depends on what your team needs. Glass is a bit bigger and stronger than Scarlett, so does better against the real big forwards, but that's pretty much limited to Brown and Rocca (and we all saw what Scarlett did to Rocca twice this year). Scarlett does provide more run from defence and probably sets up more goals than his opponents kick each week. As a viewer, Scarlett's obviously better to watch as he takes more risks and generally tries to mark the bll, rather than punch as Glass does, which can sometimes leave him a little exposed. Both have pretty good support acts, with Scarlett having the likes of Milburn, Mackie Hunt and Enright helping him out, while Glass has Wirrapanda, Waters, Hurn, Selwood and Jones to tidy up his spills. Also given the attacking style of Geelong tends to expose defences more than West Coast's "numbers back" style, you'd probably add some pointto Scarlett there as well.
Given that they both deserved an AA spot, you couldn't exactly put a pure stopper in the back pocket with a rebounding player at FB could you?
sorry, twas a bit harsh.
Sorry mate, you haven't seen as much of the players as you think - Glass gets Pav and has done for quite some time, he will generally get the best tall forward regardless of where he plays in the forward line.
As for the argument about who is better - I agree with earlier comments that they are about equal. They both also suit their team role perfectly (given West Coast and Geelong have vastly different game styles) and for that neither side could ask for much more.
And Rutton is a very close 3rd - highly under-rated.
99%?
Glass gets the best forward every week. A Geelong supporter posted Scarlett's opponents for the year and he had 7 games where he wasn't on the best forward (Hall was injured). Out of that 7, he had 5 games where he DID NOT play on a player from the opposition who was top 3 in the Coleman.
Given Glass gets the best forward, including these guns, I think it's a stretch to say 75% let alone 99%
If you wanted to further discredit your opinion, you did well...West Coast playing a "numbers back" style? puh-lease
We are well known for quite the opposite. Woosha backs his players to win 50-50 contests and as such he never allows an opposition loose man. When our opponents drop a player into defence, we man him up, meaning we in fact flood our forward line. If anything, this opens up our defence and makes it easier for opposition forwards.
If you are talking about our midfield pushing back to assist then you are clearly out of touch with how the game is played...every midfield pushes back to help defenders and have done for many years.
Glass plays in more one-on-one contests than any other full-back. I don't need to look at any stats to prove that. He is without a doubt the best at that style, and often is the only defender back playing alone on the opposition forward.
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Scarlett, so far over his career, has been a far more accomplished defender than Glass, and a far better player.what? This is the stupidest post ive read yet, Scarlett over his career HAHAHA
However, Glass, of 2006 and 2007, has rapidly caught up the difference, and would now be just behind Scarlett.
As Scarlett slows down, Glass will overtake him, and will probably be remembered by all but Geelong fans as having the greater career.
I can't make it any more obvious. I'm sure you'll get there one day.
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Haha, a Collingwood supporter not a fan of Scarlett? There's a shock, he surprise sexes Rocca everytime they line up
Doesn't just stop Rocca from touching the ball, but sets up half of our goals as well hehe.
Haha, a Collingwood supporter not a fan of Scarlett? There's a shock, he surprise sexes Rocca everytime they line up
He what?
Glass gets my vote.
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That's where he probably has the ascendancy over Glass, he runs down the field, and occasionally kicks a goal, while Glass is more of a stay at home type of defender.Haha, a Collingwood supporter not a fan of Scarlett? There's a shock, he surprise sexes Rocca everytime they line up
And please don't ever mention a Geelong player "sexing" a Collingwood player every again.
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it's a euphimism, should be pretty obvious.
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