Scotch v Haileybury. The decider

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Re: Aps Team Of 2005

Skevies said:
Anyone wanna take a shot at naming the APS team this year to verse AGS,
a lot of very good players playing this year and will be a avery hard job.
So far you would have to throw in the mix Aaron Murray (haileybury), Anthony Raso (haileybury) Tory Dickson (Haileybury), Chris Cain ( St Kevins), Rob Eddy (Caulfield), Andrew Ainger (Scotch), Nick Smith (Scotch), Tom Hawkins (Melbourne), Josh Kennedy (Xavier), James Magner (haileybury), Andrew Mcguinness (Brighton) thats all that i can remember so far, but everyone else add your comments and we'll try and get a dream team up and going and see if it matches the final team at the end of 2005!!!!!!
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It seems to me that there is an too much emphasis on players in good APS teams. A good player in a poor team gets no easy kicks because his team mates' delivery is always poor, when they run to good spots their team mates do not have the vision to see them so those good players spend all their time earning hard ball gets. For example, any player at WC that get 30 possessions against HC is a gun and you can bet at least half of those will be hard ball gets. Also, the good gteams soon figure out who those few good players are in th epoor teams and tag them heavily and try to take them out off the ball so they really have to be tough. A gun player in a gun team mostly gets quality delivery and does not suffer the same heavy treatment. I would like to see much more emphasis on an APS team based on the players who consistently earn the most hard ball gets, weak in and weak out. There will be gems like that in each of the poor APS teams. Put any of those players in a good team and they will absolutely shine against the very best opposition because they know how to get the hard ball.
 
You make a very good point old fart!
Last week when there was 3 afl scouts at the GGs Vs MGS game, do you know what clubs they were from? I can bet you that they just made the short trip from Kardinia Park after watching NB roosters take on the VC under 18's. There may also of been a couple at the GC Vs Carey game.
 
headovathepill said:
You make a very good point old fart!
Last week when there was 3 afl scouts at the GGs Vs MGS game, do you know what clubs they were from? I can bet you that they just made the short trip from Kardinia Park after watching NB roosters take on the VC under 18's. There may also of been a couple at the GC Vs Carey game.
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The 3 were from Geelong Football Club plus Bobby Davis, Ian Cover and Jack Hawkins watching his boy play who twisted his ankle in the first quarter and was restricted by that for the rest of the game.
 

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dirtycat23 said:
Djerrkura
Rattray
Davis
who are these kids?surely they could not contend with the all conqering. fleming absolute star and has been in best players just about every game haileyburys played in the last two years
plymin the big bodied midfielder who cannot be matched up, kid will run all day, very consistent.
and magner who has only played one game with haileybury since year 10?whats going on with this kid, probably the weak link in the midfield
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Rattray and Davis are awsome players both have teared up the APS throughout there years and are easily good enough to play TAC but choose not 2 because they want 2 concentrate on their studies.
Nathan Djerrkura is one of the best players in the APS, is going 2 be playing in the National U/18 Champs for Northern Terrirory and he will carve it up against Haileybury

who are flemming and plyminn? just ur average TAC players?????
 
2 players that were pushing for vic selection, haileyburys midfield will dominate scotch fullstop, how do you no magner capper?
 
TheRedPill said:
Yeah it's evident that the Haileybury team, on paper, would be able to beat Scotch, but you have to look at what it means to each of the teams.

The Haileybury 1st XVIII.. they play footy, get a free education, thrust into the limelight and get exposure, good chance of getting drafted. What does an APS premiership mean to them? Nothing. NOTHING

The Scotch 1st XVIII. A group of talented mates who are all proud of their school. They're hungry for this premiership, and the thought of winning Scotch's first footy premiership in 8 years means something to them.

But still it has the potential to be a great game. Haileybury are an absolute unit - yet you cant write Scotch off. If Scotch can play at their capacity they can match Haileybury man for man, but if they are off their game at all then it will be a walkover. If they play like did in the first quarter against Xavs then it will be a thriller of a match.

A safe tip would be Haileybury but Scotch are definitely in with a chance.
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Winning a APS premiership in footy, does not mean "nothing. NOTHING", I don’t care how many scholarships the school has, it still means something to the boys, but scotch will come off second best in this battel, better luck next year… I hope Scotch play at the their "capacity", they will need all the luck they can get...
 
pinghead, scotch beat st kevs by something like 7 points, haileybury 80 points, scotch defeated caufield by a few goals only haileybury won by 160 points. stop double dropping come down and realise they are no chance. id say there might be a few scuffles during this game by the looks of things, new sorta topic who will be targeted and who will deliver the big hits?
 
Theres a guy called Magner i think he apparently likes to hit people, dont know someone in here said he was injured? not sure anyway if he plays im sure he will pack a few punches
 

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rattray for scotch always gets fired up. scotch may not be the better side but they'll definantely put in physically. no matter who's beaten other sides by more i think is irrelevant, it will be a totally different game on the day, that will be played according to the circumstances on the day. will no doubt be the best game of the year if scotch are having a good one
 
... I wish that Scotch played Haileybury round 1, so you could see how Haileybury dominated and all this small talk would ******** off.
 
seee pill your wrong there because afl teams have similar players and any team has a chance to beat any team any week, could you see haileybury losing to wesley if the played them again? aps is different to afl mate, and nearly lost to st kevins, haileybury won by 70 points and my sources told me that they played ********house, apparently magner will be back for scothc game if all goes according to plan....
 
mate, west coast is gonna beat carlton every time, just like haileybury will beat wesley every time; yes there are always mis-matches like that in ANY competition. However, like pill said, with more even teams (and scotch is more even with Hail than Wesley) it depends on how the two teams match up on the day. one team may have strengths that exploit another teams weaknesses etc, but its different for each team. Maybe hail will blow scotch out of the water, but u can't predict that for sure on who has beaten who and by how much.
 
ok boys lets get back to the subject, recon it should be a good game, at hailbury though u would have to think that they would be too strong, but u never know scotch are a strong team with a list of good players going around.
 
Well, the game is this Saturday down at Keysborough. Shocking to get to but i'll turn up nonetheless. No doubt extra preparation has been put into this weekend and with the rumour that Raso has been injured it gives Scotch an extra boost.
With Ainger, Smith and Barlow playing well last week for Oakleigh it bodes well for Scotch's team but Haileybury have all the 'imported' boys who are keen to impress to enhance their AFL prospects.
I predict the Scotch & Haileybury boys to come out firing with both schools showing a lot of passion and possibly the match will boil over and a few 'spotfires' break-out. Raso,Fleming,Magner,Plymin and Dickson will be a handful but will have little impact as the Scotch boys will overcome these fellas and play for their school with the most passion ever seen on a football field.
Jacobs and Rioli to kick 5 each with G.Di ck chiming in with a couple. Scheetz will stitch up some blokes as will Peters and Rattray with the class of Smith and Djerrkura shining in the midfield.
Scotch in a close one. 13 points.
 
CAPPERisGOD said:
Paul Chadwick... From Haileybury, think he plays for Eastern, His a GUN!!
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Saw him relieve Heath Hocking in the Eastern Ranges midfield on the weekend and go really well around the stoppages. They tell me he has played more fullback fior Haiylebury. Good enough for a TAC midfield - I'd be getting him into the action
 
davo4030 said:
Well, the game is this Saturday down at Keysborough. Shocking to get to but i'll turn up nonetheless. No doubt extra preparation has been put into this weekend and with the rumour that Raso has been injured it gives Scotch an extra boost.
With Ainger, Smith and Barlow playing well last week for Oakleigh it bodes well for Scotch's team but Haileybury have all the 'imported' boys who are keen to impress to enhance their AFL prospects.
I predict the Scotch & Haileybury boys to come out firing with both schools showing a lot of passion and possibly the match will boil over and a few 'spotfires' break-out. Raso,Fleming,Magner,Plymin and Dickson will be a handful but will have little impact as the Scotch boys will overcome these fellas and play for their school with the most passion ever seen on a football field.
Jacobs and Rioli to kick 5 each with G.Di ck chiming in with a couple. Scheetz will stitch up some blokes as will Peters and Rattray with the class of Smith and Djerrkura shining in the midfield.
Scotch in a close one. 13 points.
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can you get any more biased??
from a neutral perspective (i do not attend either schools), Haileybury should win by a minimum 4-5 goals. I have seen both teams play this year, and haileybury are by far the better team, but im sure scotch will put up a good fight, but simply they will not be good enough. haileybury's midfield is far better than scotches. the only way scotch could win this game, is if they were totally switched on all day, and haileybury were not. unlikely to happen, but will be a great game to watch.
 
davo4030 said:
With Ainger, Smith and Barlow playing well last week for Oakleigh it bodes well for Scotch's team but Haileybury have all the 'imported' boys who are keen to impress to enhance their AFL prospects. Jacobs and Rioli to kick 5 each with G.Di ck chiming in with a couple. Scheetz will stitch up some blokes as will Peters and Rattray with the class of Smith and Djerrkura shining in the midfield.
Scotch in a close one. 13 points.
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Clearly a biased opinion here, haileybury are a much better side than scotch - just an all round classier team.

You mention the "imported" players of haileybury, but then neglect to mention that Scheetz is on a half boarding scholarship, and you have two very talented young aboriginal boys on "specialised programs" - funny how they happen to be two of your better players!!!
There would onyl be 3 max schools who dont have ANY scholarship players running round, so they can be the only ones to even mention it.
 
jeez how many people wanna bring up rioli and djerrkura being on 'scholarships'. get with the program mate. there's hundreds of people who talk about it without knowing jack
 
nutcase said:
Yous dont know what your on about, GGS is on the way up- maybe not today but itll happen
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Mate, GGS are that bad it's not funny! you guys are never going to be on the way up you have to win more than 1 game a year to be on the way up.
 
davo4030 said:
Well, the game is this Saturday down at Keysborough. Shocking to get to but i'll turn up nonetheless. No doubt extra preparation has been put into this weekend and with the rumour that Raso has been injured it gives Scotch an extra boost.
With Ainger, Smith and Barlow playing well last week for Oakleigh it bodes well for Scotch's team but Haileybury have all the 'imported' boys who are keen to impress to enhance their AFL prospects.
I predict the Scotch & Haileybury boys to come out firing with both schools showing a lot of passion and possibly the match will boil over and a few 'spotfires' break-out. Raso,Fleming,Magner,Plymin and Dickson will be a handful but will have little impact as the Scotch boys will overcome these fellas and play for their school with the most passion ever seen on a football field.
Jacobs and Rioli to kick 5 each with G.Di ck chiming in with a couple. Scheetz will stitch up some blokes as will Peters and Rattray with the class of Smith and Djerrkura shining in the midfield.
Scotch in a close one. 13 points.
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looks like someone knew exactly what they were talking about
 

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