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TheLastEmperor said:
From the main board:

Port CEO Keith Thomas on 3aw just before

"Alan wants something that we cannot give him" (senior coaching gig)

"I'm bracing myself that he is gone ( to St Kilda )"
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Done deal. No way a CEO says that without knowing.
 
stkildathunda said:
Allan Richardson is new coach of Saints. Expect official announcement by club tomorrow.
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so stoked. i think we avoided a huge cluster **** with choco

lets get behind the coach guys!!!!!!
 

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Q TRAIN said:
Yes ive always rated Hinkley and i was dissapointed he didnt get our job. But after being part of Blights team i never really gave him a chance to be honest.
I dont get that vibe fro Richo for some reason. I just see somebody who has never got the job cos he wasnt good enough.
For the sake of the football club that we all love i hope im wrong :thumbsu:
But im not gonna lie, if he gets the job im gonna be very dissapointed. But that doesnt mean i will be cooking my membership in the microwave :D
GO SAINTS 2014:thumbsu:
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Doug Barwick who worked alongside Richo at East Burwood has just given him a glowing reference before on SEN..

Is the ideal coach for a club in re-build mode..
 
Wally Matera said:
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Hey what the...........can't write must look at the dancing.....so much dancing...
 
stkildathunda said:
Allan Richardson is new coach of Saints. Expect official announcement by club tomorrow.
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Wowee that happened quickly.
Hinkley and Richardson turned Ports performance around very quickly.
I think Richardson can bring that to the saints.
This is probably the best result for us.
Well done saints.
 

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NarklesHelmet said:
I'm a massive fan of Hinkley and a bit biased because my brother-in-law knows him and speaks very highly of him, but the thing with him is that he is a no nonsense down-to-earth country sort of bloke that from all reports got passed over a few times (including by us) due to not presenting so well in a Powerpoint and winning over the board types on the various selection panels. He sounds less sophisticated than a Watters but has a razor sharp footy brain behind the laconic talk and won't suffer fools. He is also a brilliant teacher and is great at teaching the basics to kids (you can see the way Port played this year). I am really glad he was a success this year as it goes to show that for all the move towards having coaches presenting a certain way in the media with their corporate speak, there is still no substitute for a coach that bases his philosophies around simple old fashioned man management techniques of respect, hard work etc. Yes he had the benefits of taking over the group of youngsters after their early development was done with Primus but what is noticeable about Port is not just how many players improved under Hinkley but that they all played for him.I would love to have a coach back at the Saints who the players played for. It is key to any success and Watters, while talking the talk, couldn't get that buy-in from the group.

Now, not saying Richardson will be the same as Hinkley but there are similarities. Been around for a while. Missed on jobs to so-called better credentialed candidates etc. If nothing else, he would have learned a lot from Ken this year. I would love a similar no-nonsense, down to earth teacher and man-manager as our next coach that the kids can grow with over the next few years in the same mould as Hinkley and it seems from the wraps on him that Richardson could be just that bloke.
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No point getting someone who can talk the talk, if they cant walk the walk.
I'm thinking Watters must have done a terrific presentation then done something else.
 
L_W_P said:
Tongue in cheek mate.

Tiges fans were abit ruffled at the thought of losing Choco haha
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Agree. I have no basis for questioning the Saints on who they choose.... but we have clearly benefitted from Choco over the past 15 months. We dont want to lose him. In saying that, l'm surprised you have decided not to take him (that's not a reflection on Richardson either) :thumbsu:
 
Wally Matera said:
Agree. I have no basis for questioning the Saints on who they choose.... but we have clearly benefitted from Choco over the past 15 months. We dont want to lose him. In saying that, l'm surprised you have decided not to take him (that's not a reflection on Richardson either) :thumbsu:
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Choco is clearly a hack and there is no way the saints would have been remotely interested. ;)
 
Winmar2Lockett said:
We'll have to agree to disagree here. I work with young blokes aged 16-19 in a mentoring capacity. Friendly banter that pokes fun at their rubbish haircuts & juvenile attempts to grow a beard is par for the norm... as is their responses regarding my bald head.

Life's too short to grind hands over what someone MIGHT find offensive or hurtful. I don't think Ben Lennon did in any way. He'll hear way worse from over the fence during his career.
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Completely agree. I have coached 14-17s for last eight years, and I give them a good bit of banter on a weekly basis. If anything they take to it better than any other style - I am able to relate to them a lot more than the other by-the-book guys. I am proud to have been invited to so many 18th birthday parties, write college references etc. A couple of my ex-players invited me to their uni graduation and mentioned me in their thanks.
The other thing though is that I encourage them to have banter back with me. If I look a mess one morning at practice, they'll let me know. You wouldn't believe the grief I copped when I had to use my wife's car for a couple weeks. And I've heard the guys repeat some of my sharp comebacks to opposing players at times.

What I would say is that there always needs to be some caution with it. I guess in some ways it is hardening them up, whilst also trying to relax them a bit. It's not all business, it's a game, so lighten up and have a laugh. But there is always a player or two who you can see would not take well to such a blunt statement, the insecure ones. And there are some subjects I wouldn't venture into. But on the whole the banter, character coach style is one I think works.
 
Sheeza69 said:
A lot of credit was given to Richo for Port's rapid rise up the ladder, i'm comfortable with either..
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The credit belongs with their fitness coach and easier schedule. They won close games through 4th qtr efforts, and beat all the teams who were on the decline. Now everyone wants a coach like Hinkley, when really he won't have made a massive amount of impact in that time. Having Wingard and Wines turn out to be capable of being top AFL players quickly, means credit to past recruiters too.
 
ike2112 said:
The credit belongs with their fitness coach and easier schedule. They won close games through 4th qtr efforts, and beat all the teams who were on the decline. Now everyone wants a coach like Hinckley, when really he won't have made a massive amount of impact in that time. Having Wingate and Wines turn out to be capable of being top AFL players quickly, means credit to past recruiters too.
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While an excellent fitness base is vital. Even with it some teams do not run out the 4th qtr. No matter how fit you are, by the 4th qtr, it hurts. It is belief that allows teams to run games out. Look at North, their coach is a fitness expert, but they fade in the 4th. For some reason they just do not seem to have the resolve in the last qtr to get over the line.
 

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