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Re: F!@#ing Great... sex assault allegations

I've really tried to ignore all of this, but I cant help but to say the following;

I hate women who falsely accuse men of rape - not only do they damage the reputation of the men they accuse, but they make it harder for those who have been assulted to come forward, for fear of ridicule by petty little plonks who consider a short skirt "provocation" and that "leave me alone" doesnt equate to "no"

I hate the fact that we can discuss this on a football forum - ffs it's more than a legal matter, it's life destroying stuff for all parties, its not a party conversation starter! The only place it should be spoken about is in a Police interview room and a rape counselling session.

I hate that the media dont just report facts, but concoct stories based on conjecture, prejudicing an ongoing investigation.

I hate the way some people, so called football supporters seem to revell in the accusations, the broad brush shit flinging and general judgment of an event they have no effing idea about, no empathy for either victim or accused, no idea about the legal process, the hardship on all parties. As long as they can use the "event" to denigrate another club, then they seem to think it's fair game. (I'm no innocent in this regard - I have responded to a St Kilda posters comment with an alledged rapist remark)

I hope that we, as members of the general public, and more specifically, the Big footy community, can grow up and respond to any future legal in a mature, non accusatory manner.

I'm yet to go back to the main board, call me a wuss, but I don't care to hear what I assume I'd hear in that environment.

Smokey
 

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I was curious as to who was involved as everyone I'm sure, but now I know I can't help but feel it should have been kept quiet. Innocent 'til proven guilty after all... right...
 
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It's about time the names came out, why does fevola get immediately crucified for an alleged incident and these two weren''t? Double standards
 
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Riders of Rohan said:
It's about time the names came out, why does fevola get immediately crucified for an alleged incident and these two weren''t? Double standards
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I presume you were saying the same thing about the Saints investigation earlier in the year then?
 
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Riders of Rohan said:
It's about time the names came out, why does fevola get immediately crucified for an alleged incident and these two weren''t? Double standards
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Slight difference in the allegations being made. This should not have been made public and Mitchell can expect to be sued heavily if those involved are found to be innocent.
 
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Scaley mate #4 said:
It's not about girls throwing themselves at footballers, it's not about girls sleeping with footballers, it's not about getting drunk and waking-up next to a footballer, it's about sex with multiple players without consent.
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I have heard that she felt pressured by her boyfriend, who sounds charming, but whether or not she reluctantly consented at the time hasn't been determined yet I don't think.
 
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Mitchell has covered himself here by using words like;

These are the players who were interviewed.

And;

They may only be witnesses.

At no point did he actually say they are the alleged.

I'm surprised no one else figured out how to release their names in a common sense form like this, where it doesn't place any guilt or even any implications on them, it simply states they are 2 players who were interviewed, but for what (or what part) they are interviewed no one knows.

Move on, nothing new here.
 

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There were non-footballers involved too.

up to 5 guys all up.

Make of it, what you will.

Very hard to see where the truth lies.
 
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Well like i said on b13, good old collingwood forever, bahahahaha. But having said that, my instinct tells me one a potential setup, one that is indirectly sanctioned by the afl.

Have you wondered y haven't afl said anything yet, they want the social prejudice to build and take the shine off the first flag for wobble in 20 years. AFL won't tolerate collinwood dominate the competition. Oh well victims of own success.
 
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Radical Roo said:
Well like i said on b13, good old collingwood forever, bahahahaha. But having said that, my instinct tells me one a potential setup, one that is indirectly sanctioned by the afl.

Have you wondered y haven't afl said anything yet, they want the social prejudice to build and take the shine off the first flag for wobble in 20 years. AFL won't tolerate collinwood dominate the competition. Oh well victims of own success.
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Dumbest post I've seen in yonks.

If anything, the conspiracy theorists should be proclaiming the opposite of what you're saying.

Collingwood winning the permiership is the best possible result for the AFL financially, for marketing, membership, crowds, ratings and just general interest in the AFL.

Do you think it's a coincidence that the same year Collingwood won the flag, the AFL recorded record membership and crowd numbers? I understand the need for denial by most supporters, but the fact is, a healthy Collingwood tends to mean a healthier AFL.
 
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Scodog10 said:
That's twice in two weeks now that members of the 3AW radio team have questioned the credibility of both our club and or president. If the two players are subsequently cleared of these allegations don't be surprised if the club attempts to sue 3AW for slander.
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Mate, you have a lot to learn about slander if you believe the Pies have a leg to stand on in regards to litigation against 3AW. 3AW have done nothing wrong here.

This whole situation has been handled poorly by the AFL. I for one believe players are getting targeted by "strays" as Kerri-Anne correctly described them.

The issue is that players need to grasp that if they want to go out and do these things then there is a high chance of this type of situation occurring. The best approach would be to avoid these situations and find 'relationships' in different settings.

I hope the truth prevails and your players are found to be not guilty.
 
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Bloody filthy at Mitchell over this but I'm really not surprised that he was the one to pull the trigger. He's a d*ck and he's done this sort of sh*t before.

It seems just as this story was dieing down, it sparks up again.
 
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Shpeshal Ed said:
Dumbest post I've seen in yonks.

If anything, the conspiracy theorists should be proclaiming the opposite of what you're saying.

Collingwood winning the permiership is the best possible result for the AFL financially, for marketing, membership, crowds, ratings and just general interest in the AFL.

Do you think it's a coincidence that the same year Collingwood won the flag, the AFL recorded record membership and crowd numbers? I understand the need for denial by most supporters, but the fact is, a healthy Collingwood tends to mean a healthier AFL.
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This.

I find it baffling that people to realize this. We have the biggest supporter base therefore attract the most attention, therefore give the AFL the most exposure. Collingwood doing well is good for the AFL from a financial point.
 
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RealSlimShady said:
Mate, you have a lot to learn about slander if you believe the Pies have a leg to stand on in regards to litigation against 3AW. 3AW have done nothing wrong here.

This whole situation has been handled poorly by the AFL. I for one believe players are getting targeted by "strays" as Kerri-Anne correctly described them.

The issue is that players need to grasp that if they want to go out and do these things then there is a high chance of this type of situation occurring. The best approach would be to avoid these situations and find 'relationships' in different settings.

I hope the truth prevails and your players are found to be not guilty.
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Hang on, so your saying its ok for him to name the AFL footballers involved in the alleged incident because they have a public profile yet no-one else's name was put forward. If i repeat IF, this turns out to be a beat up will he come out and name the young lady that made the accusations? No he wont even though she now has a public profile due to the allegations.

He has now defamed there public image whether they are guilty or not in the exact same way Milne's and Montagna's were. Look at what Milne had to put up with from our coach just because he was named in an alleged incident.

Also why do you think Hinch retracted his comments so very quickly? They were extremely slanderous against Mcguire with no basis in fact, they implied that he passed comment on us being as weak as c$%&s and not being able to beat a bunch of cripples, that would very much defame his public image.

As the employer of Hinch and Mitchell 3AW are responsible for any disparaging comments they make, unless there is a clause in there contracts that states otherwise, which neither of us will ever be privy to.
 
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RealSlimShady said:
Mate, you have a lot to learn about slander if you believe the Pies have a leg to stand on in regards to litigation against 3AW. 3AW have done nothing wrong here.
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They have heightened the stigma that these two blokes will undoubtedly face even if no charges are laid.

As such, I don't give a **** if they are legally protected by slander laws, their flagrant disregard for the reputation of two potentially innocent people for ratings gain, is amoral. Or better put; a c*** act!
 
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Well on the back of Eddie having a red hot go at Mitchell, Jeff Kennett, the AFL and a highly-respected SC has come out and condemned him as well.

Cop that.
 
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FIGJAM said:
Have heard from multiple sources now that there is nothing to worry about and that much of the report in The Australian was a load of shit.
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There has been two versions I've heard way more than any other what I'll now call theories.

One seems to be the one you're hearing, but the other I continue to hear strongly places one of our lads in a fair bit of strife.

As it stands, I'm not sure which story is the right one, if indeed either is, but I hope it's the one I think you're referring to.
 
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After keeping on eye on this thread I have to say I'm absolutely appalled at a lot of what I have read. Forgetting the incident in question for a moment, how many more times do we have to hear things like "I hate women who falsely allege they have been r*ped". For God's sake, how about a bit of venom towards animals that assault women, often in alcohol fuelled packs. How about a bit of sympathy for women who have been assaulted but are too afraid to come forward for fear of being portrayed as ****s who were asking for it. What woman in their right mind would come forward now if they were r*ped for fear of the ridicule being spouted in this very forum?

As a father of a 9 year old girl, it makes my blood boil at the archaic attitudes we have to put up with. I'm talking about society in general here, no particular reference to Collingwood people so don't think this is an attack on your club.

It's about time young men took some bloody responsibility and while I understand it is a two way street, the odds are heavily stacked in favour of the perpetrators of these acts.

A lot of you people are being distracted by the Mitchell episode. The names of the players in question were already widely known in public circles so it is of little consequence. The fact he named them as possible witnesses rather than directly involved would seem to counterbalance any possible downside. Perhaps you should ask Fevola, Milne, Montagna etc etc how they felt about being named publicly.

I guess I'll just wait for the "**** off you Carlton maggot" responses but really, this is way beyond any Club loyalty...it's about respect.
 

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