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Alright lads it’s a ladder thread for a coin flip.
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What? How is that relevant?Alright lads it’s a ladder thread for a coin flip.
yeah im not reading all that.sigh Look, it's quite simple. The extra ladder is there for when there is a discrepancy due to byes affecting the ladder position. It happens all the time.
Here is the ladder form round 11 in the VFL this year which had multiple byes throughout the season.
Team P PTS % W L D For Against Brisbane Lions 9 36 170.3 9 0 0 974 572Gold Coast Suns 10 36 161.5 9 1 0 1140 706Box Hill Hawks 9 28 154.8 7 2 0 876 566Werribee Tigers 9 28 143 7 2 0 812 568Casey Demons 10 28 121.7 7 3 0 925 760Williamstown 9 28 121.3 7 2 0 712 587North Melbourne 10 24 112.6 6 4 0 874 776GWS Giants 9 24 95.5 6 3 0 759 795Richmond 9 22 100 5 3 1 697 697Carlton 10 20 105.1 5 5 0 719 684Geelong 9 18 73.4 4 4 1 590 804Southport 10 16 120.2 4 6 0 868 722Collingwood 9 16 101.5 4 5 0 791 779Port Melbourne 10 16 87.8 4 6 0 766 872Footscray Bulldogs 9 12 87.7 3 6 0 693 790Sandringham Zebras 9 12 84.7 3 6 0 609 719Frankston 9 12 77.6 3 6 0 585 754Essendon 10 8 85.1 2 8 0 730 858Northern Bullants 9 8 68.4 2 7 0 580 848Sydney Swans 8 0 61.7 0 8 0 466 755Coburg Lions 10 0 47.9 0 10 0 510 1064
Here is the same ladder when ratio is taken into account:
Team P PTS % W L D For Against Ratio Brisbane Lions 9 36 170.3 9 0 0 974 572 100Gold Coast Suns 10 36 161.5 9 1 0 1140 706 90Box Hill Hawks 9 28 154.8 7 2 0 876 566 77.77778Werribee Tigers 9 28 143 7 2 0 812 568 77.77778Williamstown 9 28 121.3 7 2 0 712 587 77.77778Casey Demons 10 28 121.7 7 3 0 925 760 70GWS Giants 9 24 95.5 6 3 0 759 795 66.66667Richmond 9 22 100 5 3 1 697 697 61.11111North Melbourne 10 24 112.6 6 4 0 874 776 60Carlton 10 20 105.1 5 5 0 719 684 50Geelong 9 18 73.4 4 4 1 590 804 50Collingwood 9 16 101.5 4 5 0 791 779 44.44444Southport 10 16 120.2 4 6 0 868 722 40Port Melbourne 10 16 87.8 4 6 0 766 872 40Footscray Bulldogs 9 12 87.7 3 6 0 693 790 33.33333Sandringham Zebras 9 12 84.7 3 6 0 609 719 33.33333Frankston 9 12 77.6 3 6 0 585 754 33.33333Northern Bullants 9 8 68.4 2 7 0 580 848 22.22222Essendon 10 8 85.1 2 8 0 730 858 20Sydney Swans 8 0 61.7 0 8 0 466 755 0Coburg Lions 10 0 47.9 0 10 0 510 1064 0
Several teams have moved position because the ladder changes depending on whether you have had a bye or not.
You do you.
Therefore the only true winner here, is @Falconista , because he's getting free views for his LadderTok account.
Fine. I hear you. But look man, i just want the win-loss ratio ladder to reflect the actual win-loss ratios.You do you.
Just don't become a pilot.
oh this is very quickly becoming a real issue for me nowI think everyone not participating in this s**t fight over a complete non issue are also the winners Mobbs !!! Maybe not as much as Falconista !! But still winners nonetheless.
oh this is very quickly becoming a real issue for me now
Bro is a SFAEW Superstar? I'll gladly take that campaigner on.You’re gonna need to defeat Guts in the ring I think.
AGREE and if my ALT was here, they'd probably agree too
AGREE and if my ALT was here, they'd probably agree too
I think one thing we can all agree on is whoever has been doing the flipping this year has done an outstanding job thus far.Alright lads it’s a ladder thread for a coin flip.
Got to agree, the arguing is nowhere near passionate enough.Alright lads it’s a ladder thread for a coin flip.
Last season was the first official season of the 'Win Ratio' ladder (having been done unofficially in S34 when the bye returned). As you can see in the example below from round 7 last season, there is precedent in including penalties in the ratio (see Phoenix):Righto.
The Old Boys have a 4W 2L record, meaning a win ratio of 66.7%. Meaning under the "win-loss ratio ladder" they should be sitting equal 3rd, right behind whoever the HELL the Phoenix are on percentage.
Why post the exact same ladder, twice?
Look we got a "SEASON 36 LADDER AFTER ROUND SEVEN" ladder and then a "Win Ratio Ladder After Round Seven" ladder. I want the REAL ladder with penalties applied under the first heading, then the REAL win-loss ratio ladder posted under the 2nd, without penalties.
Otherwise just straight up remove the win-loss ratio ladder all together.
SEASON 36 LADDER AFTER ROUND SEVEN:
View attachment 1806332
Headlines:
- Three on the trot for Bears after outclassing Baghdad.
- Accurate Gumbies triumph over Dragons.
- Demons return to the winners circle.
- pantskyle massive as Warriors belt Furies.
- Swamprats go back-to-back to continue Royals' woe.
- Five for Bonz in game 150 as Old Boys win.
Results:
Baghdad Bombers 15.8 (98) defeated by Las Vegas Bears 19.9 (123) LINK
Dragons FFC 7.10 (52) defeated by Gumbies FFC 14.2 (86) LINK
Roys FFC 11.7 (73) defeated by Mount Buller Demons 19.5 (119) LINK
Coney Island Warriors 17.13 (115) defeat Fighting Furies 6.6 (42) LINK
Gold City Royals 12.9 (81) defeated by Sin City Swamprats 17.11 (113) LINK
West Coast Wonders 12.13 (85) defeated by Ophidian Old Boys 19.15 (129) LINK
Win Ratio Ladder After Round Seven:
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Ladder in previous format:
Rich (BB code):P W L D Pen For Agst % Pts Streak Coney Island Warriors 6 5 1 - - 785 596 131.71% 20 5W Las Vegas Bears 7 5 2 - - 761 684 111.26% 20 3W East Side Phoenix 6 4 2 - - 679 634 107.10% 16 3W Gumbies FFC 7 4 3 - - 547 595 91.93% 16 2W Baghdad Bombers 6 3 3 - - 669 583 114.75% 12 2L West Coast Wonders 6 3 3 - - 609 622 97.91% 12 3L Roys FFC 7 3 4 - - 686 740 92.70% 12 2L Sin City Swamprats 7 3 4 - - 622 707 87.98% 12 2W -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dragons FFC 7 3 4 - - 580 676 85.80% 12 2L Ophidian Old Boys 6 4 2 - 6 616 580 106.21% 10 1W Mount Buller Demons 6 2 4 - - 630 664 94.88% 8 1W Fighting Furies 6 2 4 - - 515 612 84.15% 8 1L Gold City Royals 7 1 6 - - 630 636 99.06% 4 5L
Round Eight Fixtures:
Fighting Furies v Gumbies FFC @ rfctigerarmy's hippodrome
Mount Buller Demons v East Side Phoenix @ Snow Dome
Roys FFC v Baghdad Bombers @ Brunswick Junction Oval [MOTR]
Ophidian Old Boys v Gold City Royals @ Spotswood Oval
Sin City Swamprats v Las Vegas Bears @ Underground Stadium
West Coast Wonders v Coney Island Warriors @ The Colosseum
BYE: Dragons FFC
P W L D Pen For Agst % Pts Streak
Coney Island Warriors 7 5 2 - - 890 724 122.93% 20 1L
Las Vegas Bears 8 5 3 - - 845 773 109.31% 20 1L
Gumbies FFC 8 5 3 - - 689 712 96.77% 20 3W
East Side Phoenix 7 4 3 - - 748 704 106.25% 16 1L
West Coast Wonders 7 4 3 - - 737 727 101.38% 16 1W
Roys FFC 8 4 4 - - 791 804 98.38% 16 1W
Sin City Swamprats 8 4 4 - - 711 791 89.89% 16 3W
Baghdad Bombers 7 3 4 - - 733 688 106.54% 12 3L
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Mount Buller Demons 7 3 4 - - 700 733 95.50% 12 2W
Dragons FFC 7 3 4 - - 580 676 85.80% 12 2L
Ophidian Old Boys 7 4 3 - 6 704 678 103.83% 10 1L
Gold City Royals 8 2 6 - - 728 724 100.55% 8 1W
Fighting Furies 7 2 5 - - 632 754 83.82% 8 2L
Ladder in previous format is the best format.SEASON 36 LADDER AFTER ROUND EIGHT:
Ladder in previous format:
Rich (BB code):P W L D Pen For Agst % Pts Streak Coney Island Warriors 7 6 1 - - 890 724 122.93% 20 1L Las Vegas Bears 8 5 3 - - 845 773 109.31% 20 1L Gumbies FFC 8 5 3 - - 689 712 96.77% 20 3W East Side Phoenix 7 4 3 - - 748 704 106.25% 16 1L West Coast Wonders 7 4 3 - - 737 727 101.38% 16 1W Roys FFC 8 4 4 - - 791 804 98.38% 16 1W Sin City Swamprats 8 4 4 - - 711 791 89.89% 16 3W Baghdad Bombers 7 3 4 - - 733 688 106.54% 12 3L -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mount Buller Demons 7 3 4 - - 700 733 95.50% 12 2W Dragons FFC 7 3 4 - - 580 676 85.80% 12 2L Ophidian Old Boys 7 4 3 - - 704 678 103.83% 10 1L Gold City Royals 8 2 6 - - 728 724 100.55% 8 1W Fighting Furies 7 2 5 - - 632 754 83.82% 8 2L
Round Nine Fixtures:
Baghdad Bombers v Coney Island Warriors @ Abdu Prison
Mount Buller Demons v Gumbies FFC @ Snow Dome
East Side Phoenix v Dragons FFC @ The Eyrie
Roys FFC v Fighting Furies @ Brunswick Junction Oval
Las Vegas Bears v West Coast Wonders @ The Stadium in the Sky
Sin City Swamprats v Ophidian Old Boys @ Underground Stadium [MOTR]
BYE: Gold City Royals
Scum.Ladder in previous format is the best format.
Thanks for your work on this, Falconista. Looks great.SEASON 36 LADDER AFTER ROUND EIGHT:
View attachment 1812665
Headlines:
Results:
- Gumbies outclass Furies in hippodrome shootout.
- Wooooo! cooney kicks the Demons' match winner in dying stages.
- Roys prove far too strong for Bombers.
- Royals squeak home in absorbing clash with Old Boys.
- Three in a row for surging Swamprats.
- Wonders return to form in emphatic way.
Fighting Furies 18.9 (117) defeated by Gumbies FFC 22.10 (142) LINK
Mount Buller Demons 10.10 (70) defeat East Side Phoenix 10.9 (69) LINK
Roys FFC 15.15 (105) defeat Baghdad Bombers 10.4 (64) LINK
Ophidian Old Boys 13.10 (88) defeated by Gold City Royals 15.8 (98) LINK
Sin City Swamprats 13.11 (89) defeat Las Vegas Bears 12.12 (84) LINK
West Coast Wonders 20.8 (128) defeat Coney Island Warriors 17.3 (105) LINK
Premiership Points Ratio Ladder After Round Eight:
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Ladder in previous format:
Rich (BB code):P W L D Pen For Agst % Pts Streak Coney Island Warriors 7 5 2 - - 890 724 122.93% 20 1L Las Vegas Bears 8 5 3 - - 845 773 109.31% 20 1L Gumbies FFC 8 5 3 - - 689 712 96.77% 20 3W East Side Phoenix 7 4 3 - - 748 704 106.25% 16 1L West Coast Wonders 7 4 3 - - 737 727 101.38% 16 1W Roys FFC 8 4 4 - - 791 804 98.38% 16 1W Sin City Swamprats 8 4 4 - - 711 791 89.89% 16 3W Baghdad Bombers 7 3 4 - - 733 688 106.54% 12 3L -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mount Buller Demons 7 3 4 - - 700 733 95.50% 12 2W Dragons FFC 7 3 4 - - 580 676 85.80% 12 2L Ophidian Old Boys 7 4 3 - - 704 678 103.83% 10 1L Gold City Royals 8 2 6 - - 728 724 100.55% 8 1W Fighting Furies 7 2 5 - - 632 754 83.82% 8 2L
Round Nine Fixtures:
Baghdad Bombers v Coney Island Warriors @ Abdu Prison
Mount Buller Demons v Gumbies FFC @ Snow Dome
East Side Phoenix v Dragons FFC @ The Eyrie
Roys FFC v Fighting Furies @ Brunswick Junction Oval
Las Vegas Bears v West Coast Wonders @ The Stadium in the Sky
Sin City Swamprats v Ophidian Old Boys @ Underground Stadium [MOTR]
BYE: Gold City Royals