Traded Shane McAdam [Traded to Melbourne for F2]

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Petty is one of the best young defenders in the game (who is now being used as a forward). He may not be worth a top 5 pick, but he'd be worth a first rounder.
Petty has linsfrac injury that your own club described as significant.

They can be fairly tricky injuries and some players never fully recover. He may be lucky to get on the park much all next year.
 
Well that's true. I think he will play all of next year though.
Maybe. We've got 2 on our list now.

The first had initial surgery around round 4, and has just had follow up surgery to remove the plate that was inserted to stabilise it while it was healing

Not sure on the current status of the other 1. His injury occurred in round 21 and he's had surgery as well.

They can be very tricky injuries. For all know Petty's injury may be completely different. Either way, it's hard to see him doing much or any of a preseason

Which of course begs the question, why would Adelaide be even interested in him at this stage?
 

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Weird to see Crows fans doing the "send him to the PSD" thing with McAdam. It has never made a club better before, particularly the Crows with their big focus at the moment on player welfare. Even if it ends up being Melbourne's 3rd, or an upgrade from 3rd to 2nd, you'd take the picks every day of the week. Adelaide may not be drafting deep this year, but there are so many clubs that need points for the academy players. You'd end up trading two thirds you won't use for a high second, and things start looking great.

The Dees tend to be easy to trade with, but I just can't see them paying overs for an uncontracted 28.5 y.o with an injury history who has played 50 games.
 
Maybe. We've got 2 on our list now.

The first had initial surgery around round 4, and has just had follow up surgery to remove the plate that was inserted to stabilise it while it was healing

Not sure on the current status of the other 1. His injury occurred in round 21 and he's had surgery as well.

They can be very tricky injuries. For all know Petty's injury may be completely different. Either way, it's hard to see him doing much or any of a preseason

Which of course begs the question, why would Adelaide be even interested in him at this stage?
Mitch Clark did a serious lisfranc injury for us in 2012. He was allowed to play on (classic 2012 Melbourne) and only came off when a teammate knocked him out accidentally (classic, again). It took him 9 months to return, but the mental health breakdown essentially ended his career.

Tom McDonald did his in 2022, but he was already slowing down. He's come back, but even slower.

Meanwhile, Tom Stewart did his in 2021 at the same time of year as Petty and returned for a full pre-season. Rory Sloane I believe was out for a month or two with his in 2018.
 
Mitch Clark did a serious lisfranc injury for us in 2012. He was allowed to play on (classic 2012 Melbourne) and only came off when a teammate knocked him out accidentally (classic, again). It took him 9 months to return, but the mental health breakdown essentially ended his career.

Tom McDonald did his in 2022, but he was already slowing down. He's come back, but even slower.

Meanwhile, Tom Stewart did his in 2021 at the same time of year as Petty and returned for a full pre-season. Rory Sloane I believe was out for a month or two with his in 2018.
I don't think Sloane had to have surgery. For Petty's sake I hope that the surgery and rehab goes well along with a speedy recovery.

As for the PSD, I don't think more than 1 or 2 posters have even bothered going there. Seems to be in response to 1 or 2 Melbourne posters completely undervaluing McAdam.
 
Is this guy going to serve Dees any better than Spargo and Chandler would next season? I get that he's kicked more goals but that was for the #1 attacking team in the competition and he'll be 29 next season where the other two are still improving. I wouldn't be giving up much for him if I was the Dees, he's not going to be a needle mover.
 
Is this guy going to serve Dees any better than Spargo and Chandler would next season? I get that he's kicked more goals but that was for the #1 attacking team in the competition and he'll be 29 next season where the other two are still improving. I wouldn't be giving up much for him if I was the Dees, he's not going to be a needle mover.
He's a little taller and more physical than them, so he'll be a marking target to replace Melksham, but you're right insofar as he's a minor piece of the puzzle.
 
Is this guy going to serve Dees any better than Spargo and Chandler would next season? I get that he's kicked more goals but that was for the #1 attacking team in the competition and he'll be 29 next season where the other two are still improving. I wouldn't be giving up much for him if I was the Dees, he's not going to be a needle mover.
I'd argue the other way - Melbourne have a stronger midfield than the crows so there will be more and better quality ball coming inside 50. McAdam should be able to better thrive there than at the Crows.
 
Have you missed Melbourne's last couple of games? :think:
Well..it does not derogate from my point that Melbourne have a better midfield so by that should be offering better chances for McAdam to score from than what he is getting at Adelaide

It almost defies belief that the crows were the highest scoring side in the comp considering we have nowhere near the best midfield
 
Congrats on once again missing the point. You keep thinking the onus is on the team losing the player to make sure he gets to his club of choice, when it’s actually on tbe team promising him a contract. PSD won’t happen but of course the threat of Melbourne not getting their player exists - it’s the only leverage the crows have, why wouldn’t they use it?

The way dees supporters are carrying on you’d think the expectation is a first rounder. His value is a late second. For a proven goal scorer, in a non-existent market for players of his type, for a team in their window right now but severely lacking decent forwards. Pick 34 or f2 is not a crazy valuation.
That's a very conservative valuation. I can't imagine we'd be happy with only pick 34.
 
So Lachie Hunter went for a Future 3rd last trade period. He's 2 years younger, and is a much better player. Averaged 22 touches a game this season. You can't justify a future 2 when Lachie Hunter was a F3.

If Melbourne miss out on the trade, who cares? we miss out on...Shane Mcadam...
The onus is only on Melbourne if the player is actually an A grader. Not a 29 year old fringe player.

Is this the place for discussing all the issues that surrounded a CONTRACTED Lachie Hunter, and why he might have been traded?

And if you make a commitment to TLA Management and then welch on it, they're probably going to remember that for QUITE a while.

He's left us. Zero reason for us to be doing you favours.
 

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Yep sure the onus is on the Dees

Onus to pay a 3rd rounder as what’s probably been agreed to already and as per neutral posters here is what is universal the appropriate compensation for a 29 year old who struggles to get on the park.
Nope, not enough. You can call his management and let them know you couldn't strike a deal.

We'll just let him find a new club through the PSD, which is exactly why it exists.
 
Weird to see Crows fans doing the "send him to the PSD" thing with McAdam. It has never made a club better before, particularly the Crows with their big focus at the moment on player welfare. Even if it ends up being Melbourne's 3rd, or an upgrade from 3rd to 2nd, you'd take the picks every day of the week. Adelaide may not be drafting deep this year, but there are so many clubs that need points for the academy players. You'd end up trading two thirds you won't use for a high second, and things start looking great.

The Dees tend to be easy to trade with, but I just can't see them paying overs for an uncontracted 28.5 y.o with an injury history who has played 50 games.
Well, if there isn't a trade which we can use then he will need to nominate for the PSD like what Martin and Hately did only few years ago.
 
Keath had more value as he's a key position player and they shape the whole structure of the team. I think a pick 35-50 is fine for McAdam. I'm just saying the onus is def not on Melbourne. Imagine being a player and deciding whether to go to Adelaide or not, and then you see that they sent McAdam into the PSD because they wouldn't accept a future 3 for him and wanted a future 2. That's massive alarm bells for any player. That sets a terrible culture.
Oh please - you're twisting yourself into knots.

A player may not come to us because a player who LEFT us wasn't allowed to go for steak knives - what, are they coming to us already planning their exit? How ridiculous.

No, it's you guys who make a commitment to a player and then back out. No one will ever make a commitment to you again. You will break trust with TLA and look ridiculous.
 
Well, if there isn't a trade which we can use then he will need to nominate for the PSD like what Martin and Hately did only few years ago.
Martin who GC turned down 2 2nds for out of spite?
 
Weird to see Crows fans doing the "send him to the PSD" thing with McAdam. It has never made a club better before, particularly the Crows with their big focus at the moment on player welfare. Even if it ends up being Melbourne's 3rd, or an upgrade from 3rd to 2nd, you'd take the picks every day of the week. Adelaide may not be drafting deep this year, but there are so many clubs that need points for the academy players. You'd end up trading two thirds you won't use for a high second, and things start looking great.

The Dees tend to be easy to trade with, but I just can't see them paying overs for an uncontracted 28.5 y.o with an injury history who has played 50 games.
No thanks.

GWS have been fine after sending Hately to the PSD. Gold Coast haven't worried too much about Martin going.

It's okay. The PSD exists in case clubs can't strike a deal, so it's exactly set up for moments like this. A third is worthless, because we won't use it and none of the clubs needing points will need anything that late.
 
I'd argue the other way - Melbourne have a stronger midfield than the crows so there will be more and better quality ball coming inside 50. McAdam should be able to better thrive there than at the Crows.
There's also far fewer players as targets for those forward entries. It shows how good and efficient McAdam is, for him to do so well.
 
Weird to see Crows fans doing the "send him to the PSD" thing with McAdam. It has never made a club better before, particularly the Crows with their big focus at the moment on player welfare. Even if it ends up being Melbourne's 3rd, or an upgrade from 3rd to 2nd, you'd take the picks every day of the week. Adelaide may not be drafting deep this year, but there are so many clubs that need points for the academy players. You'd end up trading two thirds you won't use for a high second, and things start looking great.

The Dees tend to be easy to trade with, but I just can't see them paying overs for an uncontracted 28.5 y.o with an injury history who has played 50 games.
If your mob hands over more than 34 (I'm sure that's too high as well but we'll run with it) I want a formal apology or some explanation for why your guys hate our club so much
 

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