NO TROLLS Should AFL players bend the knee before each match in 2021?

[Obeanie1]

No I didn’t say that. You’re straw-manning. But if we are going to start glorifying soldiers it makes more sense to glorify Indigenous Australians who fought off foreign invaders rather than Anzacs who invaded a country that was not threatening Australia.

You do you. You want to observe Anzac Day and cheer on our troops go right ahead. But don’t you dare start demanding others think the same.

And a bit hard to dispute the words of the former Japanese Prime Minister when he said the Japanese never intended to invade Australia during the war is it?

How dead set nieve of you believing a politician. One who's country lost the war. If that's what you are basing an argument on it's a flimsy argument.

Why would a highly industrialised and militarily advanced country with a small landmass and large population ignore a continent full of resources and a tiny population? One held by an enemy from which they could counter attack your forces.

If they werent stopped they would have consolidated their forces and pushed south within a year.

And the world would be a very different place.

 

[Drought Break]

If anyone thinks Japan was not going to invade Australia at some point they are stupid.

Australia had pretty well nothing to stop them. Japan could have sailed into Darwin harbour unopposed after some carrier based bombing.

And if Japan had won WWII well things would have been VERY different for Australias indigenous peoples.

But that didn't happen. It was stopped by men and women in uniform, many who paid the ultimate price. So we can enjoy the freedom we have now.

So if you don't have any respect for them and their sacrifices then you are a idiot.

exactly. makes you wonder why we bothered building forts around coastal towns, AA guns in Darwin etc. I wonder what the diggers thought trudging up the kokoda track, hey Japan dont really intend to invade Australia, lets just go home.

 

[Drought Break]

How dead set nieve of you believing a politician. One who's country lost the war. If that's what you are basing an argument on it's a flimsy arguement.

Why would a highly industrialised and militarily advanced country with a small landmass and large population ignore a continent full of resources and a tiny population? One held by an enemy from which they could counter attack your forces.

If they werent stopped they would have consolidated their forces and pushed south within a year.

And the world would be a very different place.

and large quantities of US troops who used Australia as a base. Plenty of strategic opportunities to take out Australia. The worm may have turned with decisive lost battles for the japanese at Guadacanal, Solomons, PNG, Coral sea etc, had the won these we were next.

 

[Partridge]

The word obesity is out now too. It has to be ob*sity or you'll hurt fat people's feelings..

Their feelings should be hurt.

Stop eating three pizzas you fat fecks and do some exercise.

 

[Chief]

By being asked / forced to kneel for an organisation (BLM) you don't respect or believe in.

Kneeling is a form of servitude. You kneel to a master or to God.

People can support anti racism and not be forced / asked to kneel.

But you don’t have to kneel.

 

[Chief]

Their feelings should be hurt.

Stop eating three pizzas you fat fecks and do some exercise.

But I love pepperoni!

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

No I didn’t say that. You’re straw-manning. But if we are going to start glorifying soldiers it makes more sense to glorify Indigenous Australians who fought off foreign invaders rather than Anzacs who invaded a country that was not threatening Australia.

You do you. You want to observe Anzac Day and cheer on our troops go right ahead. But don’t you dare start demanding others think the same.

And a bit hard to dispute the words of the former Japanese Prime Minister when he said the Japanese never intended to invade Australia during the war is it?

You are lucky to live in this country and at this time so you can be so belittling to people who realise the necessity of troops and the sacrifice they are willing to make so naive people like you can exist. Yes troops have done wrong but so has every single type of person on earth so we should celebrate nothing or no one. ANZAC day is celebrated because they are people who sacrificed their lives for a country that can only exist because of people like them, no one says you can’t celebrate your enemy too and if you had a brain you would realise respect is shown on the day to the Turks who we were invading. Do you really think we would exist without an army believing in something bigger then themselves? Also yes Australia should celebrate indigenous fighters more.

 

[Chief]

Although, conscription showed that not all soldiers wanted to fight in foreign lands.

 

[12kilos]

So basically you do love politics in sport, just the politics you support.....

I do not think you have much of an idea of what polotics is.

 

[Roby]

Are some suggesting players should be banned from kneeling?

 

[JackOutback]

The fetishisation of the military and Anzacs in particular is horrifying. Most of the Diggers in WWI were barely more than children, sold a lie, fighting for another nation’s self interest. They often died scared and alone and crying. Most Anzacs didn’t want anything to do with the pomp and ceremony it has become, so far removed from remembering the actual sacrifices made. You want to do away with pointless symbols? Start with the Anzac Day clash between Collingwood and Essendon.

 

[Drought Break]

The fetishisation of the military and Anzacs in particular is horrifying. Most of the Diggers in WWI were barely more than children, sold a lie, fighting for another nation’s self interest. They often died scared and alone and crying. Most Anzacs didn’t want anything to do with the pomp and ceremony it has become, so far removed from remembering the actual sacrifices made. You want to do away with pointless symbols? Start with the Anzac Day clash between Collingwood and Essendon.

Anzac day is a day of remembrance for all conflicts that the Australian Army were involved in including peace keeping. Most Anzacs take part in remembering there mates on Anzac day which is what its all about.

 

[blitzer]

Thanks but kneeling is just a start.. Its just the start of the conversation we need to be having about racial justice and intersectionality with all historically oppressed peoples at the hands, guns and other organs of the evil white man.

Martin Luther King's dream was wrong. There should be no future where his children get judged on character and not skin colour. They should be judged on skin colour first!! Then by gender (not sex) and sexual preference. Don't just aim to treat people equally.. who do you think you are!? Its racist, sexist and oppressive!

It is interesting to note that the anti racism stance "treat everyone equally" and "don't judge a book by its cover" has shifted over the last few decades to become rooted in this idea that groups of the community are so fundamentally disadvantaged that even treating them equally is unfair.

 

[Roby]

It is interesting to note that the anti racism stance "treat everyone equally" and "don't judge a book by its cover" has shifted over the last few decades to become rooted in this idea that groups of the community are so fundamentally disadvantaged that even treating them equally is unfair.

That's the point, we are not all treated equally based on race and colour of skin.

 

[Smoocher]

Yeh can’t wait for the knee bending so I can stand and turn my back on the who virtue signalling crap in the AFL.


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[Percel]

By being asked / forced to kneel for an organisation (BLM) you don't respect or believe in.

Kneeling is a form of servitude. You kneel to a master or to God.

People can support anti racism and not be forced / asked to kneel.

Kneelist

 

[Percel]

I am sick of the afl and its clubs getting involved in polotics.

Gil loves polotics

 

[Demonic Ascent]

Thanks but kneeling is just a start.. Its just the start of the conversation we need to be having about racial justice and intersectionality with all historically oppressed peoples at the hands, guns and other organs of the evil white man.

Martin Luther King's dream was wrong. There should be no future where his children get judged on character and not skin colour. They should be judged on skin colour first!! Then by gender (not sex) and sexual preference. Don't just aim to treat people equally.. who do you think you are!? Its racist, sexist and oppressive!

Cool story

 

[Demons09]

have you heard of the kokoda campaign?. Buna, Gona and many other pacific islands to stop an advancing Japanese army?. In hindsight they probably should not have bothered if this is the lack of respect they receive for the efforts for people of your ilk.

The clown you responded to speaks for a minority probably about ten % of the unwashed that vote greens, you only have to see the youngsters that support Anzac day to see his views are redundant.

 

[bresker]

During the Rainbow round the players could kneel before a member from the opposing team, clasping hands, then spring up! and perform a jaunty ‘dancing with the stars’ routine through the club songs. While the crowd festoons the oval with roses.

 

[Thrall]

Nelson Mandela was the leader of a Marxist terrorist organisation - they can be the good guys

Yeh mate South Africa is flying these days.......

You should look into what the leaders of his political party say and think about white people

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Hopefully they do it just often enough to piss people off.

 

[RAPPA]

I don’t see anything wrong with it. Iirc Sam Mitchell was a habitually bent the knee into players during tackles in the game.

 

[Schneebly11]

Some of the responses on this thread remind me of the how American “patriots” responded to Colin Kapernick kneeling, barely disguised aggression at anyone not willing to partake in nationalistic glorification at a sports match - as the last surviving Australian at Gallipoli said:

For god's sake, don't glorify Gallipoli - it was a terrible fiasco, a total failure and best forgotten

 

[RichLeMonde]

Yeh mate South Africa is flying these days.......

You should look into what the leaders of his political party say and think about white people

So you're defending the Apartheid regime? Ah, Big Footy, don't ever change.