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- Jun 14, 2015
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Or fold, who cares.
Should the Dees and the Pies do a hard reset like the Tigers?
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It would appear VDubs has some competition.
Although Dubsy is naturally pessimistic, I don't think even he has said burn it all down and start again. He, like most of us are aware we've been shedding ourselves of veterans or shuffling them into peripheral roles quite aggressively. There's 3 key figures left that are 30 or older. It was 9 or 10 around the 2020-2022 time.
Pies won a flag in 2023, and beat the 2024 premiers both times they played them in 2024.
But we should trade every player we have with trade value, to guarantee bottom 4 finishes for the next 5 years?
But we should trade every player we have with trade value, to guarantee bottom 4 finishes for the next 5 years?
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- Jul 3, 2001
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Regardless of how this year goes, we certainly need to think about how we get some younger talent in the door to assist N Daicos at our next flag window
No both teams need to hold on for dear life until atleast Tassie enters the comp.
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Given the retirements and delistings from the squad, the Cats will go into 2025 with very little VFL depth, relying heavily on Toby Conway to get over his injury issues and praying there's no significant injuries to our key forwards (and that Shannon Neale continues to develop well).
The successful (and surprising for many) performance in 2024 was underpinned by getting great value from the past five or so draft classes (if we throw in Bruhn and O.Henry), including getting mature agers like Close, Dempsey, Humphries and Mannagh in the later stages of the draft or the rookie draft. But the Smith trade meant we weren't a big player in the draft this year and the fact that we've picked up Humphries, Mannagh, Dempsey etc. from outside the traditional U18 comps means that there is a fairly big gap on our list currently developing with players born after 2003.
To my mind, for Geelong's rejuvenation on the run process to continue to work, you/we need to pick up about three quality players from each draft class on average (i.e. about 15 players over five years), as well as hitting on your free agency targets, locking in the players you need to re-sign and everything else. When you include Bruhn and Henry, I think we've largely managed that between 2019-23 (albeit with a few guys who are now closer to 30 than they are to 20). Will we continue to hit that target over the 2020-24, 2021-25 periods and beyond? I hope so, but it's a big ask.
I was absolutely against our 2025 first rounder being considered as an option Smith trade precisely because I wouldn't be surprised at all if it ends up being well inside the top 10. It just feels to me like we need a hell of a lot to go right this year to get to the finals again and make it past the first week.
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