Analysis Should we be pursuing a secondary market post-Hobart? If yes, then where?

[DuckYeah]

Stop losing all the time and more people will front up. It all a bit chicken and egg

Not really, fans dont turn up, they need to make money elsewhere.

The winning thing is a myth. When we were goin alright from 13-16 crowds were shit then too

 

[Colby Cheer Squad]

Stop losing all the time and more people will front up. It all a bit chicken and egg

Unfortunately, a business model for an AFL club can't rely on winning all the time. We have to be able to make a profit or at least break even when we are not winning. Just as we can't rely on playing big drawing opponents like Collingwood and Essendon. We have to be able to get 25,000 to a home game against interstate opponents.

 

[Outtatym]

May as well sell a game to Collingwood and get 60-70-80k to the MCG. Members can still go.

Honestly I feel it's as much a cultural thing to not turn up to games as it is being a small club.

 

[Luke72]

Unfortunately, a business model for an AFL club can't rely on winning all the time. We have to be able to make a profit or at least break even when we are not winning. Just as we can't rely on playing big drawing opponents like Collingwood and Essendon. We have to be able to get 25,000 to a home game against interstate opponents.

I agree with what you’re saying, however winning gets better time slots, more publicity, better opponents…

It is not the only answer, and as DY says we have drawn poor crowds when our form was better, but there’s a lot going against us getting good crowds at the minute.

Selling games is a sugar hit too. We need to be having games in Melbourne most weekends so attendance is part of your routine. Currently you can go 2-3 weeks and not actually be able to attend a game.

The other really damaging thing of our continued poor performance is how it will affect the next generation of supporters. It would be hard as a 7 year old kid to jump on the Kangas when your mates teams are competing for flags.

 

[shintemaster]

Unfortunately, a business model for an AFL club can't rely on winning all the time. We have to be able to make a profit or at least break even when we are not winning. Just as we can't rely on playing big drawing opponents like Collingwood and Essendon. We have to be able to get 25,000 to a home game against interstate opponents.

We've been making profits - with Tasmania obviously - under the worst record of games in both living and the club's history. We don't rely on playing big clubs as we largely never get to do so with the frequency of other teams. If nothing else getting given the scraps will either kill us or force us to be competitive under the worst commercial conditions possible.

 

[Whereitallbegan]

Well if our supporters woke up and start attending Victorian games we wouldn’t have to sell games.
But you can bookmark it the BS excuses will pop up again like going to Grand Prix or seeing some unfunny Yank called heinfeld or I have date on boat cruise.

Honest question! We have 50,000 members, does anyone have a figure as to how many are located within a 100km distance of Melbourne CBD?

 

[Only Forwards]

Not really, fans dont turn up, they need to make money elsewhere.

The winning thing is a myth. When we were goin alright from 13-16 crowds were shit then too

There is a very big difference between our rusted on that go to all Melbourne games and the inflated number that is whatever the thing is that we claim our membership is at.

At no point ever has the increased membership translated to increased crowds. We struggle to draw a crowd against any side that doesn't have roots in Melbourne.

This situation won't be made better if in 25 we are selling 5 games, given how light we are on detail we are for whatever this Perth proposal is this is a possibility no?

It is an economic reality that we will need to sell games. Selling games will impact our ability to grow the Melbourne membership base with people who actually attend the footy.

If Perth is a replacement for Hobart, whatever, in all likelihood we'd draw bigger crowds in Perth than we do in Hobart. However the main members that attend the football already give up 4 games for this I don't want to be giving up a 5th. If Perth is an option it has to be moving a Hobart based game rather than a Melbourne one.

We still need to sort out our replacement games properly.

 

[Wild Kangaroo]

Scrap Tassie, and the the intention of selling a home game to WA. How about the AFL use their brians for once, get Princes park upto standard, boutique stadium - North and smaller teams can use it as a venue to play GWS, GC, Freo, PA, WCE in Melb.

Have a secondary Base in the North West Melbourne like Craigieburn or a place like Coburg/Brunswick ( Step on * toes)

 

[shintemaster]

Scrap Tassie, and the the intention of selling a home game to WA. How about the AFL use their brians for once, get Princes park upto standard, boutique stadium - North and smaller teams can use it as a venue to play GWS, GC, Freo, PA, WCE in Melb.

Have a secondary Base in the North West Melbourne like Craigieburn or a place like Coburg/Brunswick ( Step on * toes)

This makes no sense with the AFL now owning Docklands. Why burn millions more dollars when those millions can be spent directly on supporting the clubs stuck with poor fixtures?

 

[Wild Kangaroo]

This makes no sense with the AFL now owning Docklands. Why burn millions more dollars when those millions can be spent directly on supporting the clubs stuck with poor fixtures?

That's my point. If we were to go and play a game or 3 at Princes Park then there is more games for us to attend instead of missing out on a 'Home' interstate game.

Makes perfect sense