Like with the other terror raids which turn out to be farcicals
Wait til the facts before accusing of terrorist acts
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Wait til the facts before accusing of terrorist acts
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Did they just say they have asked to speak to Abbott live on air? This is basically an ultimatum, give us what we want or we kill hostages, blood is on your hands etc etc. Abbott speaking to them will kill someone for sure. Won't happen.
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Like what the one this morning which got evidence and an arrest?
The govt is 2 years out from an election you halfwit. They are fine.
raman
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LOL at the expert on Sky News saying that the flag in the window is "associated with faith, as opposed to political violence"
Because of course those are two completely separate things.
Because of course those are two completely separate things.
It's news? Should the media not have reported September 11? Particularly for those of us with friends/family in that area, we need to know.
I dread the rise of Islamaphobia that will presumably follow this (and has already clearly begun) along with any cynical exploitation, but I think either side ("this is clearly the government's doing to get through their laws"; "clearly this is a sign that all Muslims are evil and have to go") should be condemned.
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Ant_ is being kind by simply deleting posts taking advantage of quite a serious situation to further racist and political rants.
I won't be so kind. Future posts of this nature will earn you a thread ban - you've been warned - stick to the topic at hand and stop trying to derail the thread to push your personal agendas.
I won't be so kind. Future posts of this nature will earn you a thread ban - you've been warned - stick to the topic at hand and stop trying to derail the thread to push your personal agendas.
Here's a novel idea: let's worry about the hostages before we worry about the rest.
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40 years ago after a failed seige in lebenon alot of time and money was invested in a universal strategy denying these people what they want. Even the Russians worked with our military and governments in a concerted effort. The main thing these people want is the publicity, to create as much kaos. The main strategy to deal was to keep these incidents as quiet as possible. Not only does it rob them of what they want, it also stops them inspiring any future nutters to do the same thing. Another strategy was send in the SAS the moment they hurt someone.
Unfortunately, 40 years on from this universal strategy to deal with terrorists hostage incidents, Australia haven't adopted it. its as if we want to give them what they want.
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Very disturbing.
I think as a country, we are too soft on these extreme groups.
I think as a country, we are too soft on these extreme groups.
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Yes it is.
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rdhopkins2
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Bear in mind that the warped ideals of a minority of idiots are not representative of Islam as a whole. Fingers crossed this is resolved peacefully.
Crap like this only fuels bigots.
This is the act of a few cowards, not the religion of Islam.
Crap like this only fuels bigots.
This is the act of a few cowards, not the religion of Islam.
rdhopkins2
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It's a nightmare indeed but these are the actions of a sick and cowardly few.
I'm not religious by the way.
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While I agree with you, we cannot go all 'no true Scotsman' the other way and pretend that they have zero connection to Islam (not saying that you are doing that).
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One can only hope that events like this make the more reasonable Islamic people question their faith.
These people don't deserve any notoriety for their cowardly actions, a shame they are likely to get it.
These people don't deserve any notoriety for their cowardly actions, a shame they are likely to get it.
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There's another thread in GD
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/sydney-cafe-hold-up-martin-place.1084118/page-8#post-36436276
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/sydney-cafe-hold-up-martin-place.1084118/page-8#post-36436276
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It's not a price we can afford to pay in the name of tolerance.
LanceRomance
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mate... that is ridiculous
Anti terror laws are being introduced to stop people like this.
Ant_
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Bullshit, plenty of indonesian, Malaysian, Bruneians etc who work hard and contribute to Australia.
All of them are from muslim countries.
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sherb
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The local supermarket here opens from 5.30 am to 8.30 pm. Seven days a week.
Been run by the same family for the past 20 plus years. I know them well.
Oh, and they are muslims.
So take your bigotry and ignorance and stick it you know where.
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There has to come a time when something isn't considered a false flag operation. It's pretty difficult to comprehend governments all over the world pulling off false flags in order to push anti-terror laws to combat terrorists who don't exist.
Ant_
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Why should there be any reprisals against the community? Let the law handle those who break it.
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Any word on numbers in the building?
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There shouldn't be, but it would be naive to think the degenerate cronulla race riot crowd aren't still out there.
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