Sign Here - Im getting Bradd Dalziell!!

[Stormer]

I'don't blame those who want to be on the safe side as there is some risk associated with Dalziell, however look at it from this point of view.

• He has almost averaged 100 in his first 7 games of football, surely he will only get better???
• I highly doubt with black and power in the side he will be tagged, he isn't as damaging as these two players depite the fact he get so much of the ball
• The players to choose from that are around the $420k mark most likely will get tagged, so there is an up side there...
• The man is a running machine and pre-season form has been sensational.

For me the figures add up!! Im signing!

I simply agreed that there were safer options. The players around the $420k mark are priced that way DUE to being tagged and STILL managed to average around there. That's more of a downside for Dempsey the way I see it. I don't doubt that Dalziell is a great option but am admitting that there are safer options.

 

[Beau_Waters for PM]

Signed. Will be a gun. Keep in mind the NAB cup games are shorter with extra rotations, so if he'd played the same amount of game time as he would in a regular game he'd probably have averaged around 115.

This is a good point to note. Shorter games in the preseason.

priced at $420k, it is highly unlikly that he will increase much in price. Therefore if he continues his 100 + scores then you can avoid the risk and upgrade to him after selling one of your cash cows

The question is whether he'll average 110+. Considering his form last season in his first AFL games, his 90+ average at the WAFL level in 2007 and his first 4 NAB cup games I don't think an average of 110+ is out of the question.

The 2009 dreamteam midfield might begin A-B-C-D.

 

[Hillsy7]

Hey there Brockbruiser, not having a dig at you at all here but I reckon the following guys may be 'safer' options who will dodge a tag (or have proven they can still score with a tag), and have proven temselves over a decent period of time and are in the price range....

Deledio
Bruce
Hodge
Cross
Harvey
Hayes
Embley
Mitchell
Cassisi
Ball (injury worry)
Selwood
Priddis
Black
etc...

Just my opiion though and some of the above may struggle but I think you could go a lot better than Dalziell (I agree he is a very very good player and will be for a long time). But thats my two cents worth anyways and I have never won DT so my guess is as good as yours. Good luck!

 

[Stormer]

I've got A-B-C-D.

Pity it isn't the same ABCD that you're referring to tho

 

[Zmithy]

Hey there Brockbruiser, not having a dig at you at all here but I reckon the following guys may be 'safer' options who will dodge a tag (or have proven they can still score with a tag), and have proven temselves over a decent period of time and are in the price range....

Deledio
Bruce
Hodge
Cross
Harvey
Hayes
Embley
Mitchell
Cassisi
Ball (injury worry)
Selwood
Priddis
Black
etc...

Just my opiion though and some of the above may struggle but I think you could go a lot better than Dalziell (I agree he is a very very good player and will be for a long time). But thats my two cents worth anyways and I have never won DT so my guess is as good as yours. Good luck!

Throw Boyd and Stanton in there as well. Stanton may struggle more when tagged but has still averaged over 90 for the last two seasons, just the same as Boyd. Stanton has missed 2 games and Boyd none in the past two years. Both cheaper and safer options. Sure, Dalziell could average 100+ this year, but then again, he may not. I dont have the b@lls to pick him, but full credit to you if you go that way and it pays off. You will have deserved it.

 

[bulldogsman]

I just can't say no to him. I understand all the risks, but my instincts tell me he will be in the top 5 players this year. If it doesn't work out, well there's always next year

 

[jack_lord]

If Rich, Anthony, Ziebell or Beams average 100 over the first 7 rounds this year would anyone draft them in then once their price has peaked?

 

[Spange]

He's very tempting to slot in as a mid. Should AVG 85 + no problem at all. So far I'm weighing up Dalziell, Murphy and Selwood. Those 3 up for a big season.

 

[Dunn - Well Done]

This is where the luck of DT is invloved. Whether to pick Dalziell or not ?? he has risk but he could have high reward. This where i see the luck plays apart. Some people will pick him and if he avgs 100+ will say "i told you so". But equally we could be telling them "we told you so" when he struggles and isnt a keeper. We all have the same chance of predicting how well he will go. It comes down whether or not your willing to play with risk and how he fits regarding your structure.

 

[Hillsy7]

I just think at $420 he is a much bigger risk at averaging say 95 than the others that have been mentioned.

If he does average that then he is worth the money obviously but I think the Gibbs, Stantons etc and all the others mentioned (I couldnt be bothered typing them all into my list before sorry) are more of a realistic and safer option at averaging say 95-100.

It is a tough one though and the benefit of him if he does average 95-100 is that he is 'unique' pick (who may also go up $30-$50k and you dont have to worry about trading him in as you had him from the start) and when you play people in your league who might have my so called tried and truer performed guys then he may get a 115 when one of their premium mids get tagged and has say a 70. But then again that goes both ways and could be the other way round and Dalziell may go pear shaped hahaha!!!!

So I guess you could look at either point of view and justify it to yourself.

Thats DT!!!! Happy guessing!!!!

 

[Stormer]

After this thread, he won't be unique anymore among our circles.

 

[Dunn - Well Done]

Are you on the Dalziell wagon Stormer??

 

[Stormer]

Not at the moment.

 

[Beau_Waters for PM]

If Rich, Anthony, Ziebell or Beams average 100 over the first 7 rounds this year would anyone draft them in then once their price has peaked?

Mate, totally different kettle of fish.

He's very tempting to slot in as a mid. Should AVG 85 + no problem at all. So far I'm weighing up Dalziell, Murphy and Selwood. Those 3 up for a big season.

I wouldn't get Dalziell unless you think he can improve on his average of 95 from last season. No point getting him if he's going to drop down to 90.

The main difference between Triple-D and the others at his price is that, apart from perhaps Stanton, none of the alternatives have shown capability of averaging 110+. A few like Selwood and Gibbs are good chances to crack the 100 average, but these numbers Dalziell's been putting up are in the elite category.

 

[Jay-Z]

After this thread, he won't be unique anymore among our circles.

Not necessarily true. Much of this thread has been people saying "don't get him"

 

[Stormer]

While the others have got him. It's about a 20% rate which is fairly high. Compared to before the thread where about 1% would have had him. (BFers)

 

[Jay-Z]

While the others have got him. It's about a 20% rate which is fairly high. Compared to before the thread where about 1% would have had him. (BFers)

You think 20% of BF will have him after this? I reckon 10% would be pushing it. And that still makes him a reasonably unique pick when you consider the more popular players (Swan and co) seem to be in 70-80% of squads

 

[Cruiser23]

The main difference between Triple-D and the others at his price is that, apart from perhaps Stanton, none of the alternatives have shown capability of averaging 110+. A few like Selwood and Gibbs are good chances to crack the 100 average, but these numbers Dalziell's been putting up are in the elite category.

Sorry not seeing the capability of him averaging 110+. Yes he may have scored 100's in all his pre-season matches but as everyone knows, those matches don't mean much. Teams try things, positions change, players don't play, to judge his scoring output for 22 games on 4 pre-season is crazy if you ask me.

Whoever picks Dalziell from Round 1 has really big cojones.

 

[Dunn - Well Done]

Yeah bring Brennan, Black into the brissy side and you might see less scores and posses for Dalziell.

 

[Jay-Z]

Sorry not seeing the capability of him averaging 110+. Yes he may have scored 100's in all his pre-season matches but as everyone knows, those matches don't mean much. Teams try things, positions change, players don't play, to judge his scoring output for 22 games on 4 pre-season is crazy if you ask me.

Whoever picks Dalziell from Round 1 has really big cojones.

You have to have big cojones to succeed in DT. No offense ladies

 

[Stormer]

You think 20% of BF will have him after this? I reckon 10% would be pushing it. And that still makes him a reasonably unique pick when you consider the more popular players (Swan and co) seem to be in 70-80% of squads

20% of this thread.

around about.

There's no way guys like Swan are in 70-80% of all Squads. I'd say Dalziell will be in 5-10% of BF squads which is a lot making him much less unique. Some people go on here, see a name with a valid arguement and buy the guy straight away.

 

[Jay-Z]

20% of this thread.

around about.

There's no way guys like Swan are in 70-80% of all Squads. I'd say Dalziell will be in 5-10% of BF squads which is a lot making him much less unique. Some people go on here, see a name with a valid arguement and buy the guy straight away.

But those people are unlikely to do well in DT so who cares who they pick

 

[dewey13]

Surely there is better value (and increase in prices ultimately) in the following:

* Gibbs (didn't he average 120-130 in his last 7 games of the season?)
* Selwood
* Salopek (playing the Hodge role at Port this year)

Who would people pick out of these '09 guns?

 

[Jay-Z]

Yeah bring Brennan, Black into the brissy side and you might see less scores and posses for Dalziell.

Black almost won the brownlow last year and he still averaged 95. Plus the pre-season games are shorter so even if you think Black and Brennan take time off him, he will still get around the same TOG

 

[kickitotme]

I am in no way concerned that he has only played 7 AFL games. The guy was a ball magnet in the WAFL and is no stranger to getting leather poisoning.

He will be a unique pick in 2009 and those that have will reap the rewards. IMO he won't miss a game in 2009 and will become a top 10 DT scorer (at minimum).