jackster83
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It was against Hawthorn in Launceston. Think it was in 2010.
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Toast Slammin' Sammy Kerridge
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It was against Hawthorn I think in Tasmania, must have been either 2010 or 2011, we were getting carved up Pets went back and looked good down back, and then at the start of the next quarter he was forward again.
That sounds about right. From memory the Hawks tagged Johncock out of the game, completely negating the run & creativity he normally gave us. Craig eventually moved him into the forward line in an attempt to break the tag, moving Petrenko back into defence as his replacement.
With the benefit of hindsight, that game could be viewed as the start of the end for Johncock - particularly his time as a rebounding defender.
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Agree, but he never had star quality, O'meara and crouch would have gone top 5 in the draft and wines went at pick 7 in a draft that was touted at a superdraft. Kerridge will be a serviceable player but isn't an out and out star. But he has size and is as fit as Van Berlo and seems to have a lot of upside. We can't really complain he was taken at pick 27
I do that too, but her mole is really distracting and then I have to pretend she's someone else.
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Why is everyone so hung up on him being a "star' or not (what ever that means). There are literally a dozen or so players I would say are genuine star quality players in the AFL so he's not alone. What Im interested in is whether you think he can have a real impact on games. I think he can. He's 4 games in and really stood out against arguably the best team at the moment. He could be very, very good.
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I don't expect Sam to be a star. A good solid contributor would be good enough for me (like Sewell, Mitchell, Jarrad McVeigh etc)O
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I don't expect Sam to be a star. A good solid contributor would be good enough for me (like Sewell, Mitchell, Jarrad McVeigh etc)O
Geez...
220 games / All Australian / 4 time club best and fairest / Premiership Captain / AFL Rising Star Winner / Finished top 5 in the brownlow 3 times (He came 2nd in both 2011/2012).
If this is your idea of a solid contributor - would love to see how you define a Star.
I think he was referring to Joni Mitchell
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Way too much emphasis put on the position where draftees are taken by supporters, as Mick Malthouse says it's irrelevant to him, once your on Mick's list everyone is equal irrespective of the position they were taken in the draft, it's what they do from that point that counts ......not to mention the development/mentoring work put into the individual by the respective clubs. Sometimes the youngsters with super natural talent don't realise their full potential simply because they don't adjust to the pressure/workload of the AFL system, it's really down to how bad they want it.
Spot on.
Exhibit A: 2001 National Draft 1st Round. Sure in hindsight NDS would have been a handy pick, but I am glad we didn't get a few of the players above Reilly........ Back on topic Luke Molan must be heaps better than Reilly, he is a top 10 pick!!!!
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These guys are guns.I don't expect Sam to be a star. A good solid contributor would be good enough for me (like Sewell, Mitchell, Jarrad McVeigh etc)O
I would be over the moon if Kerridge could become next gen Van Berlo.
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Exhibit A2:
Stevie J (pick 26)
Sam Mitchell (pick 36)
Leigh Montagna (pick 37)
Dane Swan (pick 58)
you missed a few that didn't make the top 20 that year
Draft position is not entirely irrelevant. Being taken high means that, at the time of the draft, the player was judged by the club as being extremely talented.
You've all heard the saying that "class is permanent". Unless the club's recruitment staff misread a player, or there was some issue they failed to identify, we should expect that a player taken with a high pick will have a high ceiling.
With that accepted, there is a school of thought (that I don't really agree with) that says that you should identify who your best players of the future are "going to be", and pump games into them early at the expense of list-cloggers. If you agree with that idea, then draft position becomes very relevant. After all, if the club thinks that a player taken at pick 60 is going to be their next big star, why wouldn't they have taken them earlier rather than risk losing them to another club.
"Draft position doesn't matter once they're on the list" is one of those lines clubs roll out, because it would sound terrible if they spoke to the media and said "we deliberately favour the higher-selected player over those we picked later, because we don't really have such high hopes for those late pick guys". If the late selections work their ass off and overtake the earlier picked players, fantastic, but initially at least you would expect the club to favour the new players in order of selection.
You've all heard the saying that "class is permanent". Unless the club's recruitment staff misread a player, or there was some issue they failed to identify, we should expect that a player taken with a high pick will have a high ceiling.
With that accepted, there is a school of thought (that I don't really agree with) that says that you should identify who your best players of the future are "going to be", and pump games into them early at the expense of list-cloggers. If you agree with that idea, then draft position becomes very relevant. After all, if the club thinks that a player taken at pick 60 is going to be their next big star, why wouldn't they have taken them earlier rather than risk losing them to another club.
"Draft position doesn't matter once they're on the list" is one of those lines clubs roll out, because it would sound terrible if they spoke to the media and said "we deliberately favour the higher-selected player over those we picked later, because we don't really have such high hopes for those late pick guys". If the late selections work their ass off and overtake the earlier picked players, fantastic, but initially at least you would expect the club to favour the new players in order of selection.
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to the bolded part.I think draft position is extremely important - for the first few years at least.
Once a player hits around 100 games thats when the draft becomes completely irrelevant. If you were to compare Dane Swan (#58) and Luke Hodge (#1) right now draft position doesn't even come into it.
However, look at a decision we were faced with when Van Berlo got injured. Do we bring in Kerridge (pick 27, 2011) or Jarryd Lyons (Pick 61, 2010)? Lyons form had been far superior to that of Kerridge (in both 2012 SANFL and 2013 SANFL form). We selected Kerridge because he was more highly regarded and more talented. I think this is the right decision.
You need to give first chances to your most talented players.
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I would have thought kerridge came in as a like for like, they wouldn't have given a second of thought too where he or Lyons was drafted.
I think draft position is extremely important - for the first few years at least.
Once a player hits around 100 games thats when the draft becomes completely irrelevant. If you were to compare Dane Swan (#58) and Luke Hodge (#1) right now draft position doesn't even come into it.
However, look at a decision we were faced with when Van Berlo got injured. Do we bring in Kerridge (pick 27, 2011) or Jarryd Lyons (Pick 61, 2010)? Lyons form had been far superior to that of Kerridge (in both 2012 SANFL and 2013 SANFL form). We selected Kerridge because he was more highly regarded and more talented. I think this is the right decision.
You need to give first chances to your most talented players.
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The proof will be whether Kerridge gets dropped for VB.
FR0GGY
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Not quite Kerridge played the forward shut down role last week, excelled and played better than he did as a midfield tagger against Carlton. So I'd say he's taken pets's role now however he initially took VB's role in the side
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Kerridge was selected because he was able to replace VB (big tank, able to tag and play the same role). It's not like the match selection panel goes through a list of "talent" to select players. They select based on form and need. Kerridge and Lyons are not like for like so it was not a case of picking who is more talented, it was a case of picking who would play that role better.
