Smoking Outside the Ground - Time to be banned

[yyou]

Wow!
What a bunch of whinging sooks SOME smokers & the nuffies hiding behind civil liberties are.
Smoke all you want, but give the rest of us a chance to avoid the result.
There should be zones a bit further away from the gates & all is sweet.
Those of you who laugh at us for covering our faces to avoid your stench, I pity you for your ignorance & wish you well.
The ones who walk along in a crowd while puffing away need to be fined

 

[Toump Ass]

LOL @ the hysterics in this thread.

Personally I don't mind designated smoking areas in public places. Plenty of places overseas have it and it's not that much of a problem. Once it's in effect people get used to it and it becomes the norm.

When smoking was banned indoors I thought I'd never enjoy going to a pub again... turns out I was wrong.

 

[simba_]

Well we dont really have a choice with the air in the city. It is what it is. Secondary smoke on the other hand........

secondary smoke comes from smokers buying cigarettes legally and smoking them in areas they're allowed to. it is what it is.

P.S. you always have a choice

 

[pazza]

Is it really that bad? On my observations definitely not.

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

secondary smoke comes from smokers buying cigarettes legally and smoking them in areas they're allowed to. it is what it is.

P.S. you always have a choice

Secondary smoke has precisely zero to do with how the cigarettes were acquired or where they are consumed.

A 15 year old smoking inside a restaurant will be subjecting people to secondary smoke.

 

[Jonts]

The only place that it annoys me is crossing the bridge at adelaide Oval

no issues with people smoking in the designated areas otherwis
their life decisions

 

[Gongswan]

Normal people?? You mean the ones that lack empathy because they don't live or have the same thoughts as you. I'm a smoker also, you seem like the type of person who judges someone before they get to know them.

I'd rather hang out with someone who acts like a decent person that smokes, than someone who has such a judgemental closed minded view of people such as yourself. We're not in highschool anymore.

He's never seen cig advertising, probably still is in high cschool

 

[Sando22]

Should be banned everywhere

 

[Gongswan]

LOL @ the hysterics in this thread.

Personally I don't mind designated smoking areas in public places. Plenty of places overseas have it and it's not that much of a problem. Once it's in effect people get used to it and it becomes the norm.

When smoking was banned indoors I thought I'd never enjoy going to a pub again... turns out I was wrong.

In the 1940's gas chambers were normal in Europe, everything becomes normal when it's done enough, I'ds prefer cigs were made illegal and I'm a smoker, but the way things are now, I pretty much only smoke at home. Smokers are now officially an underclass of society

 

[simba_]

Secondary smoke has precisely zero to do with how the cigarettes were acquired or where they are consumed.

A 15 year old smoking inside a restaurant will be subjecting people to secondary smoke.

but you're not allowed to smoke in restaurants. you're allowed to smoke outside under the sky!

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

but you're not allowed to smoke in restaurants. you're allowed to smoke outside under the sky!

That's not what you said though.

 

[mxett]

but you're not allowed to smoke in restaurants. you're allowed to smoke outside under the sky!

The thread isnt about what is permitted, its about what should be

 

[JohnnyFontane90]

The thread isnt about what is permitted, its about what should be

banning someone from doing something that inconveniences you doesn't qualify as 'should'

 

[Bunk Moreland]

In the 1940's gas chambers were normal in Europe

Um

Wtf

 

[Toump Ass]

In the 1940's gas chambers were normal in Europe, everything becomes normal when it's done enough, I'ds prefer cigs were made illegal and I'm a smoker, but the way things are now, I pretty much only smoke at home. Smokers are now officially an underclass of society

Yeah ok.

I smoked cigarettes overseas and had no problems being confined to outdoor smoking areas.

Not sure I would have found gas chambers quite so easy to to adjust to.

 

[leeloo]

I notice a lot of airports now have sectioned off areas where people can smoke, they no are able to walk out the front and light up, they have to go into their little pen and smoke.

 

[mxett]

banning someone from doing something that inconveniences you doesn't qualify as 'should'

i would call cancer more than just an inconvenience

 

[JCHolmes]

Cost of a pack in wa is 26.80 for 25 cigs. Say 10% of population are smokers. Also say that tax makes up half at least? So about $14 for arguments sake. Not everyone is pack a day but arguments sake lower the tax calculable to $10.00 a pack. 2million people are smokers roughly. 365 x $10.00 tax = $3650.00 tax from one person for one year. Times that figure by 2million. 7,300,000,000 The figure would be somewhere around that give or take. Big dollars.

 

[Mister_A]

I hate having to squeeze past fat people when getting onto trains. I hate having to sit next to fat people when on trains or planes.
If you want to harm yourself by getting overweight or obese, then do it at home and make a foxtel show about it! Normal weight people should not have to put up with this!! Time to ban all soft drinks and fast foods at the football!
I hate the smell of beer. I hate having to sit next to someone on a train with a strong beer odour. If you are going to drink beer and increase your risks of liver disease and many cancers, then do it at home. Normal non-drinking people should not have to put up with drunks and beer smells! Time to ban all beer at the football!

Sums up this thread perfectly.

 

[kingswood71]

Cost of a pack in wa is 26.80 for 25 cigs. Say 10% of population are smokers. Also say that tax makes up half at least? So about $14 for arguments sake. Not everyone is pack a day but arguments sake lower the tax calculable to $10.00 a pack. 2million people are smokers roughly. 365 x $10.00 tax = $3650.00 tax from one person for one year. Times that figure by 2million. 7,300,000,000 The figure would be somewhere around that give or take. Big dollars.

 

[HBF]

Is it really that bad? On my observations definitely not.

I don't really notice it, and i'm pretty sensitive to cigarette smoke.
Although it does help that we don't leave with the masses at the end of the game. We tend to leave it a few minutes to let most of the crowd get away.

 

[Underarm]

In the 1940's gas chambers were normal in Europe, everything becomes normal when it's done enough, I'ds prefer cigs were made illegal and I'm a smoker, but the way things are now, I pretty much only smoke at home. Smokers are now officially an underclass of society

Godwin's Law activated.

 

[Montana2Rice]

If you smoke you're not a normal person? Nice agenda you muppet.
Stay inside and please refrain from making more embarrassing threads.

Actually you're the muppet.

Ban smoking in public. If you want to smoke, do it with other cretins or alone. Plenty of other things are banned in public, that are less annoying and harmful than smoking.

 

[isamedthegiants]

Cost of a pack in wa is 26.80 for 25 cigs. Say 10% of population are smokers. Also say that tax makes up half at least? So about $14 for arguments sake. Not everyone is pack a day but arguments sake lower the tax calculable to $10.00 a pack. 2million people are smokers roughly. 365 x $10.00 tax = $3650.00 tax from one person for one year. Times that figure by 2million. 7,300,000,000 The figure would be somewhere around that give or take. Big dollars.

If a packet of cigarettes costs (round number) $5 to sell to produce, but there is $18 worth of taxes per pack;

Rough numbers - 1,000,000 smokers in Australia?

Average 1 packet a day = 365,000,000 packs.

365,000,000 x $18 = $6,570,000,000.00 worth of tax contributed to state and federal governments.

19,000,000 people employed in Australia, you have to pay around an extra $380 a year in tax to subsidise it.

I'm not willing to do that to stop people from making a personal choice.

 

[Chubberson]

Yeah they should make a smallish area to accommodate the nicco puffers, get em a little out of sight and smell. The worst is talking to one after its had a smoke. Talk about rancid, pig shit smells better. I don't even act polite if I'm talking to one I turn my head away slightly and hold my nose.