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The King! said:
lot of sex and drugs at the school to be honest
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I'll never forget walking in on Sister Ave Maria and Father Benedictus on the tabernackle.

Was definitely a religous experience, she kept crying out for god.
 
Well well well. I'm sticking with my prediction that the Stage 3 tax cuts will be scrapped


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Tedeski said:
Well at the time I though Garrett should have been locked up for manslaughter.
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The CSIRO’s finding that safety during the Pink Batts scheme was better than before its implementation didn’t convince you about that bit of Tony Abbott mischief?

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HIP Royal Commission submission (Part 5): Dramatic drop in deaths

The Royal Commission report into the so-called ‘botched pink batts rollout’ is due 31 August. According to Alan Austin, who presented a sworn statement of evidence and followed the public hearings...
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SBD Gonzalez said:
The CSIRO’s finding that safety during the Pink Batts scheme was better than before its implementation didn’t convince you about that bit of Tony Abbott mischief?

independentaustralia.net

HIP Royal Commission submission (Part 5): Dramatic drop in deaths

The Royal Commission report into the so-called ‘botched pink batts rollout’ is due 31 August. According to Alan Austin, who presented a sworn statement of evidence and followed the public hearings...
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"Mr Abbott said Mr Garrett only banned the use of metal staples after the first death, despite being warned about the risk they posed several times beforehand.
"He has to be responsible for failing to adequately heed these warnings," he said.
"That's why I say that he should pay for these four deaths with his job."
Mandatory training of installers starts today.
Meanwhile a Brisbane home has been found with 80 volts of electricity running through foil insulation in its roof.
The industry's peak body, Master Electricians Australia, said reports were emerging of hundreds of homes across Australia where the insulation has become live through contact with electrical fittings.
Master Electricians Australia chief executive Malcolm Richards said an electrician found a Brisbane home's ceiling to be live with 80 volts running through the foil insulation.
He said the foil had been stapled through electrical cables in a number of places.
Updated government advice said 1000 of the homes could have "live" roofs, which means anyone who goes into the roof cavity could be electrocuted.
Faulty insulation has also been blamed for a number of house fires.
Master Electricians Australia has launched a website and hotline for home owners with foil insulation installed under the rebate scheme to register for an inspection.
Mr Richards said accredited master electricians were available to conduct inspections immediately.
He warned against unqualified people doing safety checks themselves."

Your turn!
 
Tedeski said:

"Mr Abbott said Mr Garrett only banned the use of metal staples after the first death, despite being warned about the risk they posed several times beforehand.
"He has to be responsible for failing to adequately heed these warnings," he said.
"That's why I say that he should pay for these four deaths with his job."
Mandatory training of installers starts today.
Meanwhile a Brisbane home has been found with 80 volts of electricity running through foil insulation in its roof.
The industry's peak body, Master Electricians Australia, said reports were emerging of hundreds of homes across Australia where the insulation has become live through contact with electrical fittings.
Master Electricians Australia chief executive Malcolm Richards said an electrician found a Brisbane home's ceiling to be live with 80 volts running through the foil insulation.
He said the foil had been stapled through electrical cables in a number of places.
Updated government advice said 1000 of the homes could have "live" roofs, which means anyone who goes into the roof cavity could be electrocuted.
Faulty insulation has also been blamed for a number of house fires.
Master Electricians Australia has launched a website and hotline for home owners with foil insulation installed under the rebate scheme to register for an inspection.
Mr Richards said accredited master electricians were available to conduct inspections immediately.
He warned against unqualified people doing safety checks themselves."

Your turn!
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No-one is excusing the tragedy of deaths and accidents, but the fact is, despite these tragic instances you cite here, the accident rate during the pink batts scheme was lower.

Would you try to press charges against a Roads Minister because people die every day in car accidents?

After eight separate enquiries into the pink batts scheme, I think we can reasonably conclude that if by now, no-one has laid a charge of manslaughter against Peter Garrett as you want, it's because he has no case to answer for.
 
SBD Gonzalez said:
No-one is excusing the tragedy of deaths and accidents, but the fact is, despite these tragic instances you cite here, the accident rate during the pink batts scheme was lower.

Would you try to press charges against a Roads Minister because people die every day in car accidents?

After eight separate enquiries into the pink batts scheme, I think we can reasonably conclude that if by now, no-one has laid a charge of manslaughter against Peter Garrett as you want, it's because he has no case to answer for.
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I get it.
You loved Midnight Oil hey?
 

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SBD Gonzalez said:
Actually no. Can't stand most of their stuff. Just think a really good scheme with flaws (what government scheme isn't?) was disgustingly and cynically weaponised by Tony Abbott.
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I get it.
You don't love Abbott or the Libs.
Oh well. The good old days are back.
Loving the non weaponising from the other mob.
I better get off before the power gets turned off in my area.
 
Tedeski said:
I get it.
You don't love Abbott or the Libs.
Oh well. The good old days are back.
Loving the non weaponising from the other mob.
I better get off before the power gets turned off in my area.
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I believe history will show the near decade of Coalition rule from Abbott to Morrison to have been pretty much the worst government we've ever had. So nice to have non-BS politicians back in control (and the electorate seems to agree).

www.theguardian.com

Australians’ confidence in government integrity has increased since election, study finds

Australian Leadership Index also shows boost in public perceptions of leadership and competence since Labor took power
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Tedeski said:
That's why they had less people vote for them. Let's face it, they are in control because of the votes for the other useless lot called greens & independents.
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Yes, but they're also in control because the Coalition lost seats that they had never even once lost since they were founded. Seats that every time in our history till now would have been a given, as part of the Coalition's quantum. Robert Menzies and Andrew Peacock's seat. Peter Costello's seat. The safest seats in the land.

Once you look deeper than raw numbers in the House of Reps, it's hard to overestimate the depth of the Coalition's rout.

Westminster Parliamentary Democracy's not a bad system, eh? Subtle.
 
SBD Gonzalez said:
Yes, but they're also in control because the Coalition lost seats that they had never even once lost since they were founded. Seats that every time in our history till now would have been a given, as part of the Coalition's quantum. Robert Menzies and Andrew Peacock's seat. Peter Costello's seat. The safest seats in the land.

Once you look deeper than raw numbers in the House of Reps, it's hard to overestimate the depth of the Coalition's rout.

Westminster Parliamentary Democracy's not a bad system, eh? Subtle.
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I'm in one of those seats.
Teal seats won by elite candidates that don't represent me yet won the votes of my kids for instance who dream about how to save the environment while having a shower just before they go to play netball & then have another 20 minute one when they get home after they are done.
Not often you get a 4th term either so you are giving credit when they lucked in.
 
Tedeski said:
I'm in one of those seats.
Teal seats won by elite candidates that don't represent me yet won the votes of my kids for instance who dream about how to save the environment while having a shower just before they go to play netball & then have another 20 minute one when they get home after they are done.
Not often you get a 4th term either so you are giving credit when they lucked in.
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Like I said, Westminster Parliamentary Democracy. Got any suggestions for how to improve it, or is it just fine until your candidate loses?
 
Tedeski said:
I'm in one of those seats.
Teal seats won by elite candidates that don't represent me yet won the votes of my kids for instance who dream about how to save the environment while having a shower just before they go to play netball & then have another 20 minute one when they get home after they are done.
Not often you get a 4th term either so you are giving credit when they lucked in.
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And let's face it, since May we've seen the first real action on climate change (not enough IMO, but whatevs) in a decade and real action on corruption, two issues that are huge with the electorate and were a big part of Labor's platform and a huge part of the "teal" wave.

So stuff is getting done, and probably wouldn't have gotten done with nearly such alacrity if the teals hadn't seen off several Libs, and given an almighty scare to Labor. Do you want action on these matters (I do), or do you just want your team to win?
 
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SBD Gonzalez said:
And let's face it, since May we've seen the first real action on climate change (not enough IMO, but whatevs) in a decade and real action on corruption, two issues that are huge with the electorate and were a big part of Labor's platform and a huge part of the "teal" wave.

So stuff is getting done, and probably wouldn't have gotten done with nearly such alacrity if the teals hadn't seen off several Libs, and given an almighty scare to Labor. Do you want action on these matters (I do), or do you just want your team to win?
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No it's good when the other team wins as well so my kids can learn the difference.
One way traffic is never good.
They can't know what's good until they can see what's shit.
 
Tedeski said:
No it's good when the other team wins as well so my kids can learn the difference.
One way traffic is never good.
They can't know what's good until they can see what's s**t.
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You’re not wrong there. Before the May election, I was starting to fear a lot of younger Australians had not even seen what boringly competent government looked like, and a lot older Australians were in danger of forgetting.
 

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