Play Nice Society, Religion & Politics Thread

[SBD Gonzalez]

Israelis just destroyed and set on fire the last functioning hospital in the north of Gaza. Around 80 more Palestinians killed in the last few days. The director of the hospital is in Israeli custody. Another war crime by the IDF but again not a peep out of the Western main stream media. Death rate now around 46,000. Two thirds are women and children with the largest fatality group between the ages of 5-9.

Imagine if this was happening to Israelis and the corresponding reaction here in the media.

I just don’t understand Israel’s endgame here.

Do they really not realise what pariahs they are making themselves internationally? Do they really think they can just brazen it out?

1,200 Israelis dead. 46,000 Gazans dead. Do they really think the rest of the world can’t count?

 

[McGowan3]

I just don’t understand Israel’s endgame here.

Do they really not realise what pariahs they are making themselves internationally? Do they really think they can just brazen it out?

1,200 Israelis dead. 46,000 Gazans dead. Do they really think the rest of the world can’t count?

They don't care, nor do the US. Insane stuff. Trump will probably let them annex the West Banks as well. All illegal under International law but as long as US supports them, they are exempt. Cutting their own throats in the long term. We just go along with it as the unofficial 51st state of the Union.

 

[Ticky009]

Reading through the Healthscope Hospital debacle is a lot of fun. 2nd largest owner of Private hospitals in Aust. Owned by a Canadian Equity Firm. First they hit the Health care funds with a $150 increase in fees proposal - then they got shitty and gave them 90 days notice of 'we won't be covering you anymore.'

 

[McGowan3]

Terrible fires in Los Angeles with many homes destroyed and around 20 people have perished. The comprehensive media coverage has been graphic.

Meanwhile, in Gaza, 70 children have been killed in the last five days by Israeli attacks on buildings sheltering displaced people. Well over 46,000 fatalities, including 17000 kids since October last year. Health and Education systems destroyed. Acute food shortages with infants dying of malnutrition.

Zero coverage in our mainstream media.

 

[sydney_gws]

Terrible fires in Los Angeles with many homes destroyed and around 20 people have perished. The comprehensive media coverage has been graphic.

Meanwhile, in Gaza, 70 children have been killed in the last five days by Israeli attacks on buildings sheltering displaced people. Well over 46,000 fatalities, including 17000 kids since October last year. Health and Education systems destroyed. Acute food shortages with infants dying of malnutrition.

Zero coverage in our mainstream media.

Surely now Americans start demanding an end to weapons aid to middle east. They need money for overtime for fire fighters.

 

[The King!]

Should get the women and children to safety perhaps .....

 

[Bloods86]

Should get the women and children to safety perhaps .....

Which topic are we talking about?

The idea of people in Gaza being told to get to safety would be fairly ridiculous.

 

[McGowan3]

Should get the women and children to safety perhaps .....

Is this a joke? There is nowhere safe in North Gaza. US complicit by providing the bombs. Inhuman.

 

[The King!]

Not saying tell them to watch out and get to safety , I am saying if world powers won't intervene in this at least you could come in and insist on evacuating the children safely , I realise the mechanisms are probably impossible and no one would offer safe haven and why should they leave etc. But the USA could insist on moving families if they actually wanted to and taking them to a safe country , if they wanted too.


I am also going to guess that the soldiers wouldn't let their kids and wives go anyway.

 

[Bloods86]

Not saying tell them to watch out and get to safety , I am saying if world powers won't intervene in this at least you could come in and insist on evacuating the children safely , I realise the mechanisms are probably impossible and no one would offer safe haven and why should they leave etc. But the USA could insist on moving families if they actually wanted to and taking them to a safe country , if they wanted too.


I am also going to guess that the soldiers wouldn't let their kids and wives go anyway.

This has been part of why people are outraged at Israel. There is nowhere that's safe, nowhere will take them, borders are shut off.

The onus is on Israel to stop, not civilians to magically get to safety.

Also, I'm not sure what the soldiers not letting their kids and wives go comment is about. You realise that "Palestinian man" does not equate to "Hamas fighter" right?

 

[Mister B]

Reading through the Healthscope Hospital debacle is a lot of fun. 2nd largest owner of Private hospitals in Aust. Owned by a Canadian Equity Firm. First they hit the Health care funds with a $150 increase in fees proposal - then they got shitty and gave them 90 days notice of 'we won't be covering you anymore.'

Yep. Impacting me. Full toys out of the cot stuff.

 

[Mister B]

Not saying tell them to watch out and get to safety , I am saying if world powers won't intervene in this at least you could come in and insist on evacuating the children safely , I realise the mechanisms are probably impossible and no one would offer safe haven and why should they leave etc. But the USA could insist on moving families if they actually wanted to and taking them to a safe country , if they wanted too.


I am also going to guess that the soldiers wouldn't let their kids and wives go anyway.

Pretty sure they told them all to evacuate to the Egyptian border early in the piece. Egypt didn’t open the border and Israel started bombing the shit out of the refugee camps because they claimed Hamas were hiding in the refugee camps. Have used the same justification for bombing schools and hospitals. We will never know the truth as to if this was the case or not. Sadly, that part of the world is a lost cause. Nothing will ever satisfy both sides in what is effectively a thousands year old tussle.

 

[McGowan3]

Looks like we have a ceasefire at last in Gaza although it doesn't come into effect until Sunday. Israel has been intensely bombing all pats of Gaza in the last few days and it wouldn't surprise if they continued up until Sunday.

The convicted felon Trump has obviously way more influence on his war criminal counterpart in Israel than both Biden and Blinken. They will go down in history as totally complicit in the slaughter of many thousands of innocent civilians, two thirds of them women and children.

Meanwhile, our local mainstream media, under pressure from the Israeli lobby, paints the Israelis as the good guys.