South Australian football - where is it at?

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I'm not sure if my understanding on this is right, so please correct me if this is wrong.

The issue for the SANFL and the SANFL Clubs is not just that they need $$$ to fund their huge salary caps. It is about the ownership of South Australian football, top to bottom.

At the moment, SANFL and the SANFL Clubs are responsible for Auskick, junior club footy, regional academies, coach education... basically all grassroots/development programs. They employ development managers, development officers (country + metro), Talent Managers... to coordinate these program, and the money for these positions comes from the Crows/Power dividends they receive. They own South Australian football.

South Australian football wants to stand on its own two feet and the SANFL/SANFL clubs want to maintain this control. They need the money the two AFL licenses generate to achieve this.

The AFL don't fund grassroots football/development programs in South Australia in the same way they do in other states. The AFL's attitude (quite rightly) seems to be, "If you're getting money off your AFL clubs, then you're not getting money from us too."

Ideally the AFL would like to run South Australian football from top to bottom, the same as they do in (all?) other states. They don't want 'rogue' state bodies with their own ideas on junior structures, pricing, formats, primary school football etc. They want a universal model for grassroots football / development programs trotted out across the country.

The AFL wants to own South Australian football. They will fund all our grassroots/development programs IF the SANFL sells the licenses back to the two AFL Clubs. The AFL will fund it and the SANFL would go back to simply running a football competition for nine clubs, without an over-arching role of running South Australian football.

The SANFL doesn't want a bar of this. They feel that they will lose control and relevance. They are right, too. The question is whether they should.

that is the 2 main things the SANFL fears the most
 
It is doomed. I think Adelaide with several players at their peak walking out because of club issues will field a very young team and be near the bottom next year (and probably the next few years), no higher than 15th. Wouldn't be surprised if they were wooden spooners. Port will finish higher, somewhere mid ladder.
 
It is doomed. I think Adelaide with several players at their peak walking out because of club issues will field a very young team and be near the bottom next year (and probably the next few years), no higher than 15th. Wouldn't be surprised if they were wooden spooners. Port will finish higher, somewhere mid ladder.
What is the reason though that's the important question

Has Adelaide and ports drafting been poor is the list not capable

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a bit of conflation of different issues

On one hand, Adelaide has never really had a re-build and they are just coming to a part of the cycle that they've avoided for 15 years - That's a list cycle issue. Port have already started their re-build but both are unlikely for finals next season (but who the hell really knows?)

In terms of SA Football as a whole - There definitely needs a TAC Cup type overhaul of junior footy development. The hypothetical SA State of Origin side would struggle to beat Tasmania at the moment, and quality draftees are few and far between. They need to take the development away from the SANFL clubs. SANFL clubs are trying to win SANFL premierships, if they produce an AFL player, it's a bonus. TAC Clubs are trying to develop AFL players, if they win a premiership, it's a bonus

And the results are obvious to see
 
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a bit of conflation of different issues

On one hand, Adelaide has never really had a re-build and they are just coming to a part of the cycle that they've avoided for 15 years - That's a list cycle issue. Port have already started their re-build but both are unlikely for finals next season (but who the hell really knows?)

In terms of SA Football as a whole - There definitely needs a TAC Cup type overhaul of junior footy development. The hypothetical SA State of Origin side would struggle to beat Tasmania at the moment, and quality draftees are few and far between. They need to take the development away from the SANFL clubs. SANFL clubs are trying to win SANFL premierships, if they produce an AFL player, it's a bonus. TAC Clubs are trying to develop AFL players, if they win a premiership, it's a bonus

And the results are obvious to see
Any suggestions on who would pay for the TAC comp in SA considering it woukd be created purely for the AFL competition

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As long as the backwards thinking parasites at the SANFL (SMA) run footy in the state, it will always be mediocre. Their development is atrocious and all aimed to keeping the crappy comp relevant.

Unfortunately they have done such a good job of squeezing every penny out of the AFL teams and the govt. that they are in position to do so for years to come.

They are literally the Adelaide 'establishment' and love their little fiefdoms.

A club should not be makng a loss from 6ok memberships and 35k average attendances. The stadium deal is a shocker, just to fund the likes of Glenelg and their urge to hire AFL has beens.
 
As long as the backwards thinking parasites at the SANFL (SMA) run footy in the state, it will always be mediocre. Their development is atrocious and all aimed to keeping the crappy comp relevant.

Unfortunately they have done such a good job of squeezing every penny out of the AFL teams and the govt. that they are in position to do so for years to come.

They are literally the Adelaide 'establishment' and love their little fiefdoms.

A club should not be makng a loss from 6ok memberships and 35k average attendances. The stadium deal is a shocker, just to fund the likes of Glenelg and their urge to hire AFL has beens.


Have the SMA got a magical power over the government?
 

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Have the SMA got a magical power over the government?
Yes, yes they have.
Are you trying to say that those in the SANFL/SMA aren't hugely influential in politics? The crazy addition of the hotel is a prime example of the snouts in the trough.

The clubs are fighting back, but it's all too late and a big reason why both are struggling.


Adelaide Oval's board [SMA] is comprised of nominees of its two shareholders, the SANFL and SACA, designed to represent the interests of both football and cricket.

PHOTO: Keith Thomas accused the project proposal of lacking transparency. (ABC News)


But the Power said the SANFL does not consult with the state's two national teams.

"The SANFL does not engage in regular dialogue with the AFL clubs to ensure our interests are represented to the [SMA] board," Mr Thomas wrote.
 
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Yes, yes they have.
Are you trying to say that those in the SANFL/SMA aren't hugely influential in politics? The crazy addition of the hotel is a prime example of the snouts in the trough.

The clubs are fighting back, but it's all too late and a big reason why both are struggling.


Adelaide Oval's board [SMA] is comprised of nominees of its two shareholders, the SANFL and SACA, designed to represent the interests of both football and cricket.

PHOTO: Keith Thomas accused the project proposal of lacking transparency. (ABC News)


But the Power said the SANFL does not consult with the state's two national teams.

"The SANFL does not engage in regular dialogue with the AFL clubs to ensure our interests are represented to the [SMA] board," Mr Thomas wrote.


The question is

Why did the government let the SACA/SANFL run their asset?
 
The question is

Why did the government let the SACA/SANFL run their asset?

The answer is because the clubs had no choice as they were still being rinsed and owned by the SANFL at the time and to even have a chance of freedom they had to accept it and the people in the SANFL/SMA are/were literally the most corrupt politicians the state has ever had!

This isn't even supposition ffs.

 
The answer is because the clubs had no choice as they were still being rinsed and owned by the SANFL at the time and to even have a chance of freedom they had to accept it and the people in the SANFL/SMA are/were literally the most corrupt politicians the state has ever had!

This isn't even supposition ffs.


That wasn't the question

the question was why did the GOVERNMENT give the saca/sanfl the run of the GOVERNMENTS ASSET being AO that the GOVERNMENT owned
 
The answer is because the clubs had no choice as they were still being rinsed and owned by the SANFL at the time and to even have a chance of freedom they had to accept it and the people in the SANFL/SMA are/were literally the most corrupt politicians the state has ever had!

This isn't even supposition ffs.



The no response tells me you know why the government did what they did with their asset

and it has nothing to do with tin foil hat conspiracy theories
 

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