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Some senior teams need to go. One of the big issues is that for every senior club there's a junior club associated with it. That's basically relying on 100% retention of Juniors to support the senior team which just doesn't happen. Sandy Bay having seniors will severely effect the clubs where their Juniors progress to now (Hutchins?).
 
jj15 said:
If he does they’ll be left high and dry.
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It’s not sounding too good.

Lauderdale should retain most of their list questions around Boscott and Christiansen but I am hearing he’s softened on Hobart.. otherwise it would be announced by now
 
Bicco said:
Some senior teams need to go. One of the big issues is that for every senior club there's a junior club associated with it. That's basically relying on 100% retention of Juniors to support the senior team which just doesn't happen. Sandy Bay having seniors will severely effect the clubs where their Juniors progress to now (Hutchins?).
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It’s tricky.
Hobart tried to amalgamate with them and bring their juniors in but it didn’t eventuate.

It would make sense for Hutchins to become the Bay and join the SFL proper but I don’t know what that relationship is like
 

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On radio Christensen sounded like his priority is his daughter who lives interstate.
He won’t have the support like he did at Lauderdale. I know the money must be tempting but seriously how will this help Hobart? He is not young and how many will realistically come with him?
 
jj15 said:
On radio Christensen sounded like his priority is his daughter who lives interstate.
He won’t have the support like he did at Lauderdale. I know the money must be tempting but seriously how will this help Hobart? He is not young and how many will realistically come with him?
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Spot on

Whilst for footy 40k is unreal there is a lot of work to do at any club that is offering that.
You would be earning every cent so it’s in no way a quick money grab to bring a club back from the brink.

It’s well and truly silly season now that’s for sure
 
🔹to support other stakeholder clubs in the Sandy Bay zone – Sandy Bay Lions Junior Football Club, Tasmania University Football Club and Hutchins School Old Boys Football Club

Who does Steven Hay think he’s kidding with this pearler? They’ll compete with Uni and Hutchins for the same players - male and female.
 
I'm not sure any coach can bring Hobart back to the top, sure getting a playing coach that has a following will get them off the bottom but won't get them to the top, will be paying big money just to scrape into finals and then they'll all leave, happened with Gilmour and his crew were recruited, just ends In tears.

At the end of the day it all starts with the juniors side of things, need to constantly have a good junior program and have talent coming though the ranks, Hobart has from what Ive seen very limited amount of junior teams and looking at their reserves and seniors teams over the past years would be hardly any of those players that came through the Hobart juniors.

Need to have juniors coming through that will stick with the reserves and seniors because they already have a strong relationship with the club and are playing for the club not for money.

For a good 6/7 + years Hobart had a group of 20-30 players in the the seniors and reserves every year, they failed to recruit players and build around the core group they had and now that core group have all left, have heard different reasons as to why they left, not getting on with Gilmour, not getting along with Munting and just the pure fact that the club can't recruit and they were sick of being at the bottom end of the ladder each year.
 
Bicco said:
Some senior teams need to go. One of the big issues is that for every senior club there's a junior club associated with it. That's basically relying on 100% retention of Juniors to support the senior team which just doesn't happen. Sandy Bay having seniors will severely effect the clubs where their Juniors progress to now (Hutchins?).
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I think you’ll find alot of the Sandy bay juniors progress to north Hobart, I’m positive they had an alignment with the senior club


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tassiemagpie said:
I think you’ll find alot of the Sandy bay juniors progress to north Hobart, I’m positive they had an alignment with the senior club


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They do have an affiliation but the maths doesn't work.
Taking this year as an example, both clubs have an U16.5 team. So 50 or so kids between them. Only North has an U18s. Where do the other 25 kids go? I'd say half would stop playing so that leaves a maybe a 1/4 of that 25 to Hutchins then the other 6 wherever. If SB want a League/Reserves/U18s then that's a huge strain on the junior playing pool in that area. When you combine the league teams in the SFL and Old Scholars, there's more league clubs than junior teams. Now we're adding in a premier league. It's completely unsustainable.
One of the SFL or OS leagues has to go or clubs merge.
DOSA and Hobart both play out of the TCA, it's not difficult to imagine.
But everyone here is so parochial for their own piece of turf that clubs would rather struggle on aimlessly than give up for the good of the game.
If none of this is to happen then a massive amount needs to be spent on getting Juniors back into the game. Like actually employing half a dozen people to run clinics in all of the southern primary schools all of the time (not just a session or two once a year) and get them playing footy again. That'll take years and close to $1m per year invested.
Kids have so many more options now than when the blokes running the STJFL were kids playing the game. They're completely out of touch. Kids today (my son included) are so easily distracted by a million other things. Basketball for example goes for 1 hour and is played indoors. Ask 50 ten year olds what sport they'd rather do in winter and what do you reckon the answer will be? The Devils will help but not enough to clean up the mess the game's currently in.
 
Bicco said:
They do have an affiliation but the maths doesn't work.
Taking this year as an example, both clubs have an U16.5 team. So 50 or so kids between them. Only North has an U18s. Where do the other 25 kids go? I'd say half would stop playing so that leaves a maybe a 1/4 of that 25 to Hutchins then the other 6 wherever. If SB want a League/Reserves/U18s then that's a huge strain on the junior playing pool in that area. When you combine the league teams in the SFL and Old Scholars, there's more league clubs than junior teams. Now we're adding in a premier league. It's completely unsustainable.
One of the SFL or OS leagues has to go or clubs merge.
DOSA and Hobart both play out of the TCA, it's not difficult to imagine.
But everyone here is so parochial for their own piece of turf that clubs would rather struggle on aimlessly than give up for the good of the game.
If none of this is to happen then a massive amount needs to be spent on getting Juniors back into the game. Like actually employing half a dozen people to run clinics in all of the southern primary schools all of the time (not just a session or two once a year) and get them playing footy again. That'll take years and close to $1m per year invested.
Kids have so many more options now than when the blokes running the STJFL were kids playing the game. They're completely out of touch. Kids today (my son included) are so easily distracted by a million other things. Basketball for example goes for 1 hour and is played indoors. Ask 50 ten year olds what sport they'd rather do in winter and what do you reckon the answer will be? The Devils will help but not enough to clean up the mess the game's currently in.
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Adding to that is the rise of masters which has hit Reserves hard.

If you count ODFA, OS, SFL and TSL there are 25 senior teams and 20 reserves teams.

Last year there was 9 Under 18 or 19s teams in Southern Tasmania.
 
Bicco said:
They do have an affiliation but the maths doesn't work.
Taking this year as an example, both clubs have an U16.5 team. So 50 or so kids between them. Only North has an U18s. Where do the other 25 kids go? I'd say half would stop playing so that leaves a maybe a 1/4 of that 25 to Hutchins then the other 6 wherever. If SB want a League/Reserves/U18s then that's a huge strain on the junior playing pool in that area. When you combine the league teams in the SFL and Old Scholars, there's more league clubs than junior teams. Now we're adding in a premier league. It's completely unsustainable.
One of the SFL or OS leagues has to go or clubs merge.
DOSA and Hobart both play out of the TCA, it's not difficult to imagine.
But everyone here is so parochial for their own piece of turf that clubs would rather struggle on aimlessly than give up for the good of the game.
If none of this is to happen then a massive amount needs to be spent on getting Juniors back into the game. Like actually employing half a dozen people to run clinics in all of the southern primary schools all of the time (not just a session or two once a year) and get them playing footy again. That'll take years and close to $1m per year invested.
Kids have so many more options now than when the blokes running the STJFL were kids playing the game. They're completely out of touch. Kids today (my son included) are so easily distracted by a million other things. Basketball for example goes for 1 hour and is played indoors. Ask 50 ten year olds what sport they'd rather do in winter and what do you reckon the answer will be? The Devils will help but not enough to clean up the mess the game's currently in.
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DOSA and Hobart both play out of the TCA, it's not difficult to imagine.

As much as it might make sense, Hobart hate DOSA.
 

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Bicco said:
Completely unsustainable.
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I think the SFL underage competition is in danger also. 4 clubs participated last year with Brighton now going to premier league.

That leaves three with Sorell not having won a game last year.

I know some teams plan to get underage teams, but if this does not eventuate what will these three teams do?

4 was already stupidly low.
 
jj15 said:
I think the SFL underage competition is in danger also. 4 clubs participated last year with Brighton now going to premier league.

That leaves three with Sorell not having won a game last year.

I know some teams plan to get underage teams, but if this does not eventuate what will these three teams do?

4 was already stupidly low.
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I believe there is a bit going on with colts at the moment.
Stjfl changing strictly to 16’s
SFL strictly 18’s
Potential for clubs to play across divisions etc

might be a transition year but will be better for the change to 16’s & 18’s in the long run.

In fairness to Sorell they were super young, the comp was meant to be 18’s and then ended up being 19’s as Huonville last minute had a change of heart so you essentially had boys against men.. without that though there would have been 3 teams
 
DR SFL said:
I believe there is a bit going on with colts at the moment.
Stjfl changing strictly to 16’s
SFL strictly 18’s
Potential for clubs to play across divisions etc

might be a transition year but will be better for the change to 16’s & 18’s in the long run.

In fairness to Sorell they were super young, the comp was meant to be 18’s and then ended up being 19’s as Huonville last minute had a change of heart so you essentially had boys against men.. without that though there would have been 3 teams
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Of the 16.5s this year only Sandy Bay and Channel are not Premier League clubs. No u16s from NN, Claremont, Sorrel, Lindisfarne etc.
AFL TASMANIA is going to have to take some steps backwards to move forwards, be very clear on the plan to all clubs and be very strict on player movements to keep the teams even. Will probably take 5-6 years to fix if everyone is on board.
 
No Under 16.5 teams in 2024 from Claremont or Lindisfarne due to being absorbed (read: poached) by Glenorchy and Clarence. Not the first time this has happened and certainly not the last.
 
Barge said:
No Under 16.5 teams in 2024 from Claremont or Lindisfarne due to being absorbed (read: poached) by Glenorchy and Clarence. Not the first time this has happened and certainly not the last.
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If those kids want to play at the highest standard they can, they have to switch? Those other clubs aren’t going to be premier league clubs either, we have a new system which isn’t promotion /relegation (mistakenly) so they’ll likely continue to make the switch.
 
jj15 said:
If those kids want to play at the highest standard they can, they have to switch? Those other clubs aren’t going to be premier league clubs either, we have a new system which isn’t promotion /relegation (mistakenly) so they’ll likely continue to make the switch.
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Not so much with Clarence, but Glenorchy have done it out of desperation as they’ve had no actual GDJFC juniors coming through youth ages in recent years. Can’t blame them - it’s either do this or fold.
 
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