Opinion St Kilda Team of the 21st Century (Rolling)

[st_trav_ofWA]

I've always maintained that if we played Gwilt in the 09 GF instead of Dempster then we win.

Jimmy's work as a hit up forward for most of 09 was fantastic.

i tend to agree with that

 

[st_trav_ofWA]

Had plenty of talent, didn't initially have the work ethic and was treated in a non-optimal manner by Watters, made to mend his ways under Richo, developed the work ethic just as his body failed and he was out of contract.

i have it on good authority that under watters he was so much out of favour that he made contact to Ross Lyon about heading West but at that time Ross didnt have a spot in his team for him but if he was willing to come play WAFL they would keep an eye on him... he was a ripping young lad too ... hopefully his NFL dream gains some legs and he makes a big name of himself over in the US

 

[Savage Kent]

B: Blake, Hudghton, Dempster
HB: Goddard, Fisher, Jones
C: Dal Santo, Hayes, Montagna
HF: Hammill, Riewoldt, Schneider
F: Milne, Gehrig, Gresham
R: Everitt, Harvey, Ball

Int: Steven, McEvoy, Roberton, Billings

 

[Brains Trust66]

This is a really interesting subject , ill have a go too .

B - Baker Hudghton Dempster
HB - Gram Fisher Geary
C - Dal Santo , Hayes , Montagna
HF - Goddard , Riewoldt , Schneider
FF - Milne , Gehrig , Steven
R - Everitt , Harvey , Ball

Int - Ross , Thompson , Roberton , Jones

 

[curnow inferno]

CHANGES AT END OF 2020:
IN: J.STEELE, T.MEMBREY
OUT: S.BAKER, S.LOEWE

[TD valign="top"]FB[/TD][TD valign="top"]S.DEMPSTER[/TD][TD valign="top"]M.HUDGHTON[/TD][TD valign="top"]J.GEARY*[/TD]

[TD valign="top"]HB[/TD][TD valign="top"]B.GODDARD[/TD][TD valign="top"]S.FISHER[/TD][TD valign="top"]A.JONES[/TD]

[TD valign="top"]C[/TD][TD valign="top"]N.DAL SANTO[/TD][TD valign="top"]L.HAYES (vc)[/TD][TD valign="top"]L.MONTAGNA[/TD]

[TD valign="top"]HF[/TD][TD valign="top"]A.HAMILL[/TD][TD valign="top"]N.RIEWOLDT (c)[/TD][TD valign="top"]J.GRESHAM*[/TD]

[TD valign="top"]FF[/TD][TD valign="top"]S.MILNE[/TD][TD valign="top"]F.GEHRIG[/TD][TD valign="top"]T.MEMBREY*[/TD]

[TD valign="top"]RR[/TD][TD valign="top"]P.EVERITT[/TD][TD valign="top"]J.STEVEN[/TD][TD valign="top"]R.HARVEY[/TD]

[TD valign="top"]INT[/TD][TD valign="top"]J.STEELE* L.BALL[/TD][TD valign="top"]S.ROSS*[/TD][TD valign="top"]A.THOMPSON[/TD]

[TD valign="top"]COACH:[/TD][TD valign="top"]ROSS LYON[/TD][TD valign="top"][/TD]

 

[Munga]

I'm not sure of my own criteria, but here goes......

F	Milne, Stephen	Gehrig, Fraser	Koschitzke, Justin
HF	Hall, Barry	Riewoldt, Nick	Loewe, Stewart
C	Dal Santo, Nick	Steele, Jack	Montagna, Leigh
HB	Jones, Austinn	Fisher, Sam	Goddard, Brendon
B	Dempster, Sean	Hudghton, Max	Baker, Steven
R	Everitt, Peter	Harvey, Robert	Hayes, Lenny
INT	Blake, Jason	Burke, Nathan	Steven, Jack	Gram, Jason
Coach:	Thomas, Grant	Ass:​	Lyon, Ross

And the other end.....really pushing my memory.....

F	Rowe, Sam	White, Spencer	Young, Robbie
HF	Sweeney, Justin	Watts, Fergus	Winmar, Nick
C	Smith, Alistair	Langlands, Doulton	Miles, Luke
HB	Allen, Jarryd	Stone, Nick	Begley, Colm
B	Pattison, Adam	Ferguson, Jackson	Howard, Brad
R	Abbott, Ryan	Freeman, Nathan	Heyne, Nick
INT	Archer, Daniel	Johnson, Will	Ledger, Tom	Campbell, Fred
EMG	Brooks, Barry	Monkhorst, Damian	Clarke, Matthew	Pierce, Lewis
Coach	Blight, Malcolm
Ass	Watson, Tim
Ass	Watters, Scott

 

[King_Steele]

My time 04-20

Baker Hudghton Fisher
Gram Maguire Jones
Montagna Hayes Harvey
Hamill Riewoldt Steven
Milne Gehrig Schneider
Gardiner Goddard Dal Santo
Ball Koschitzke Blake Dempster

 

[curnow inferno]

CHANGES AT END OF 2023:
INS: SINCLAIR, WILKIE, MARSHALL
OUTS: THOMPSON, HUDGHTON, EVERITT

FB	S.DEMPSTER	C.WILKIE*	A.JONES
HB	B.GODDARD	S.FISHER	J.SINCLAIR*
C	N.DAL SANTO	L.HAYES (vc)	L.MONTAGNA
HF	A.HAMILL	N.RIEWOLDT (c)	J.GRESHAM*
FF	S.MILNE	F.GEHRIG	T.MEMBREY*
RR	R.MARSHALL*	J.STEVEN	R.HARVEY
INT	J.STEELE*	L.BALL	S.ROSS*	J.GEARY
COACH:	ROSS LYON*

Thank you to the saints board for all your input so far.

Felt weird taking out hudghton as he was the one and only defender i recall who could actually beat fev.

Of the current crop, I'd expect king, owens and phillipou to be among those who could break in to this team in coming years.

Thoughts?

 

[The Jack]

CHANGES AT END OF 2023:
INS: SINCLAIR, WILKIE, MARSHALL
OUTS: THOMPSON, HUDGHTON, EVERITT

FB	S.DEMPSTER	C.WILKIE*	A.JONES
HB	B.GODDARD	S.FISHER	J.SINCLAIR*
C	N.DAL SANTO	L.HAYES (vc)	L.MONTAGNA
HF	A.HAMILL	N.RIEWOLDT (c)	J.GRESHAM*
FF	S.MILNE	F.GEHRIG	T.MEMBREY*
RR	R.MARSHALL*	J.STEVEN	R.HARVEY
INT	J.STEELE*	L.BALL	S.ROSS*	J.GEARY
COACH:	ROSS LYON*

Thank you to the saints board for all your input so far.

Of the current crop, I'd expect kind and phillipou to be two who could break in to this team in coming years.

Thoughts?

Out Gresham. In anyone I’d have Owens in for him now.

 

[The Punter]

Baker Hudghton Dempster
Goddard Fisher Gilbert
Montagna Hayes Dal Santo
Ball Riewoldt Thompson
Milne Gehrig Schneider
Koschitzke Harvey Steven
Blake Geary Ross A Jones

Now after 2023

Baker Hudghton Dempster
Goddard Fisher Sinclair
Montagna Hayes Dal Santo
Ball Riewoldt Steele
Milne Gehrig Schneider
Marshall Harvey Steven
Wilkie Geary Ross A Jones

In: Sinclair Wilkie Steele Marshall
Out: Blake Gilbert Thompson Koschitzke

 

[StCicatriz]

FB	Geary	Hudghton	Blake
HB	Goddard	Fisher	Sinclair
C	Montagna	Steele	Dal Santo
R	Gardiner	Harvey	Hayes
HF	Schneider	Riewoldt	Steven
FF	Milne	Gehrig	Kozi
I/C	Gilbert	Dempster	Ball
	Gram

 

[Armitage2Riewoldt]

One of our best team ever peaking in 2009-10 naturally means the best all played most of their careers in this century.

Really hard to see Roo, Hayes, Goddard, Dal Santo, Fisher, Milne ever being replaced in this side and that's more than a quarter of the team already.

Gehrig with 2 Coleman's and kicking 100 as well very hard.

Harvey an awkward one as his best was in the late 90s.

Cool idea though! Hopeful we do see most of these guys replaced cos it'll likely mean we've seen some success

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

B. S.Baker M.Hudghton S.Dempster

H.B. B.Goddard S.Fisher J.Sinclair

C. N.DalSanto R.Harvey A.Thompson

H.F. A.Hamill N.Riewoldt A.Schnieder

F. T.Membrey F.Gehrig S.Milne

Foll. J.Blake L.Hayes J.Steven

I/C. J.Gram, A.Jones, L.Montagna, P.Ryder, J.Steele

Stiff: L.Ball, N.Burke, M.Gardiner, J.Gwilt, J.Peckett, B.Voss, C.Wilkie

 

[Yabadoo22]

B: baker, hudghton, Dempster
Hb: sinclair, fisher, Gram
C: dalsanto, Steven, Goddard
Hf: hamill, Riewoldt, schneider
F: Milne, gerigh, kositchzke
Foll: Marshall, Harvey, hayes
Int: Blake, Gilbert, montagna, Steele
Sub: Geary

 

[curnow inferno]

CHANGE AT END OF 2024:
Positional change: Jack Steele

9

Jack Steele

Age

29

Ht

187cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.9

5star

K

8.7

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

3.7

4star

T

6.8

5star

CL

3.6

5star

D

21.3

5star

K

10.0

4star

HB

11.3

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

5.8

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

16.8

4star

K

5.0

2star

HB

11.8

5star

M

2.6

3star

T

6.4

5star

CL

3.6

5star

to Ruck Rover; Jack Steven

9

Jack Steven

Age

34

Ht

180cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.7

5star

K

12.7

5star

HB

11.0

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

4.5

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

14.0

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.0

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.8

4star

CL

2.5

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

5.8

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

4.8

5star

CL

0.8

3star

to Interchange

FB	S.DEMPSTER	C.WILKIE*	A.JONES
HB	J.SINCLAIR*	S.FISHER	B.GODDARD
C	N.DAL SANTO	L.HAYES (vc)	L.MONTAGNA
HF	A.HAMILL	N.RIEWOLDT (c)	J.GRESHAM
FF	S.MILNE	F.GEHRIG	T.MEMBREY*
RR	R.MARSHALL*	J.STEELE*	R.HARVEY
INT	J.STEVEN	L.BALL	S.ROSS	J.GEARY
COACH:	ROSS LYON*

A quarter of the way through the century for the mathematically illiterate; what changes would you make?


Of current players... NWM, owens and phillipou seem likely types to break in to this team in upcoming years.

 

[jumperfan]

CHANGE AT END OF 2024:
Positional change: Jack Steele to Ruck Rover; Jack Steven to Interchange

FB	S.DEMPSTER	C.WILKIE*	A.JONES
HB	J.SINCLAIR*	S.FISHER	B.GODDARD
C	N.DAL SANTO	L.HAYES (vc)	L.MONTAGNA
HF	A.HAMILL	N.RIEWOLDT (c)	J.GRESHAM
FF	S.MILNE	F.GEHRIG	T.MEMBREY*
RR	R.MARSHALL*	J.STEELE*	R.HARVEY
INT	J.STEVEN	L.BALL	S.ROSS	J.GEARY
COACH:	ROSS LYON*

A quarter of the way through the century for the mathematically illiterate; what changes would you make?


Of current players... NWM, owens and phillipou seem likely types to break in to this team in upcoming years.

I feel like there's gotta be someone else we could have over Gresham

 

[Dard Ball Get]

I feel like there's gotta be someone else we could have over Gresham

Higgins

 

[Bill Crouse]

I'm too young to remember much about Hamill other than him being injured a lot. His stats don't look particularly impressive either. Was he really that good?

 

[Mr Platinum]

Nathan Burke would be the second or third bloke picked in real life, only behind Roo.

 

[Mat Mann]

I'm too young to remember much about Hamill other than him being injured a lot. His stats don't look particularly impressive either. Was he really that good?

at his peak yeah, unfortunately, we never saw it a lot when he was here.

 

[Bill Crouse]

Nathan Burke would be the second or third bloke picked in real life, only behind Roo.

Were his 31 games this century that good?

 

[Armitage2Riewoldt]

Were his 31 games this century that good?

Did he seriously only play that few? If so there's 0 chance. Perhaps our Carlton friend is remembering his games in blue...

Nathan Burke would be the second or third bloke picked in real life, only behind Roo.

Burkey was retired by end of 2003? If we extended it to 1990 I'd agree with you but hard to justify him with just the last 3 years.

Unless we're incorporating their whole career even if they just played 1 game this century for us.

But then you'd be considering Spida Everitt and Stewie Loewe

 

[wannabewinner]

at his peak yeah, unfortunately, we never saw it a lot when he was here.

His 2005 season was great. Sadly injured for all the finals and barely played much after that.

 

[SaintOfLondon]

Gresham and Ball out

 

[SaintOfLondon]

I'm too young to remember much about Hamill other than him being injured a lot. His stats don't look particularly impressive either. Was he really that good?

He was a much needed enforcer to protect first year Roo and Kosi, played with a lot of heart as well