Politics STABLE POPULATION PARTY - Australia's sustainable choice ???

[HardenUp]

What do people think of this party? They are registered with the Australian Electoral Commission and will contect the next federal election. Would you consider voting for them?


Philosophy:
The Stable Population Party is committed to a stable, sustainable, open and tolerant Australia.

Objectives:
The key objectives of the Stable Population Party are as follows:
To stabilise Australia's population as soon as practicably possible, aiming for a population of around 23-26 million through to 2050; and
To provide leadership and support to other countries experiencing rapid population growth, so as to help them stabilise their populations, and thus help stabilise global population.

Core values:
To enhance the prosperity of all Australians, our children and grandchildren, and create a better quality of life for all, the Stable Population Party upholds the following core values:
1. Sustainable living
2. Egalitarian democracy
3. Fiscal responsibility
4. Global citizenship
5. Productive innovation

www.PopulationParty.org.au

 

[evo]

A philosophy of

4. Global citizenship

is somewhat at odds with looking at the ever increasing populaton clock and saying: "sorry, we're closed".

 

[Cthublhu]

The only way we'll achieve a stable population is by halting immigration. Doesn't sound very open or tolerant.

 

[hamohawk1]

Eugenics anyone?

 

[Inferno]

The population can easily be stable at 50-60m, you just need the infrastructure and planning to cater for it.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

23 to 26 million by 2050? WTF?

In a society with a social safety net in terms of health care and pensions you need to continue to grow in order to meet your future obligations.

Thats to say nothing of the complete curtaling of consumption growth that comes from a growing population

They are basically adovcating for no more growth for 40 years. Australia is a vast landmass and can carry a much bigger population, would prefer a focus on establishing and developing other population centres within Australia rather than just the capital cities.

 

[Andre]

23 to 26 million by 2050? WTF?

In a society with a social safety net in terms of health care and pensions you need to continue to grow in order to meet your future obligations.

Australia needs to grow GDP per individual, but not just GDP (as the crude underlying driver of prosperity).

If Australia got up to a replacement fertility rate of 2.1 then the population could stabilise and support future obligations. Sure there'd be changes from the ever growing expansion of major cities, but it's doable.

If Australia's CO2 emissions, Murray Darling health or environment in general means anything to a person, then surely a stable population is one of the main ways to address that.

 

[cancat]

Why the emphasis on a stable population? If technology and infrastructure etc advances so that Australia can support 100 million people then that's "sustainable", innit?

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Why the emphasis on a stable population? If technology and infrastructure etc advances so that Australia can support 100 million people then that's "sustainable", innit?

But it's not white....

 

[rayven]

Philosophy:
The Stable Population Party is committed to a stable, sustainable, open and tolerant Australia.

Objectives:
The key objectives of the Stable Population Party are as follows:
To stabilise Australia's population as soon as practicably possible, aiming for a population of around 23-26 million through to 2050; and
To provide leadership and support to other countries experiencing rapid population growth, so as to help them stabilise their populations, and thus help stabilise global population.

Core values:
To enhance the prosperity of all Australians, our children and grandchildren, and create a better quality of life for all, the Stable Population Party upholds the following core values:
1. Sustainable living
2. Egalitarian democracy
3. Fiscal responsibility
4. Global citizenship
5. Productive innovation

www.PopulationParty.org.au

Lots of bling......

 

[HardenUp]

But it's not white....

I note they support continued immigration and mantaining the current refugee intake (which is the largest per capita intake in the world), but didn't see anything about discrimination (only "white") in their website.

You might be thinking of One Nation

 

[HardenUp]

A philosophy of is somewhat at odds with looking at the ever increasing populaton clock and saying: "sorry, we're closed".

Where do they say "sorry, we're closed"? I missed that bit...

 

[HardenUp]

Australia needs to grow GDP per individual, but not just GDP (as the crude underlying driver of prosperity).

If Australia got up to a replacement fertility rate of 2.1 then the population could stabilise and support future obligations. Sure there'd be changes from the ever growing expansion of major cities, but it's doable.

If Australia's CO2 emissions, Murray Darling health or environment in general means anything to a person, then surely a stable population is one of the main ways to address that.

Correct. GDP per capita is what matters, and a stable population helps us to achieve progress on all of Australia's major problems - water conservation, carbon emissions, infrastructure, biodiversity, housing affordability, resource consumption...

Is our moral responsibility to encourage other countries to keep driving up population (and use Australia as a population safety valve) or help them to stabilise their populations through foreign aid, family planning, leading by example, etc?

 

[Scotland]

The population can easily be stable at 50-60m, you just need the infrastructure and planning to cater for it.

Given the current infrastructure is struggling with the current population of 22.5 million and governments at state and federal level don't seem overly keen on investing vast sums of money in upgrading said infrastructure what makes you think it will ever adequately service a population of 50-60 million?

 

[rayven]

I use to be like that, It's i supposse the equilivant of being a left wing conservitive and that is a right wing socialist. Part of the learning curve.

In a politial party sense it's bullshit and unsustianable....

Socialism is where we should strive to get too if we wish to be anywhere near a sustainable civilisation, but to get there we got destroy capatilism.

That aint happenning anytime soon.

 

[Barry_Badrinath]

Given the current infrastructure is struggling with the current population of 22.5 million and governments at state and federal level don't seem overly keen on investing vast sums of money in upgrading said infrastructure what makes you think it will ever adequately service a population of 50-60 million?

Is it?

 

[Scotland]

Is it?

I would say so, yes.

Most of the major infrastructure (road, rail, water & supply etc.) in the cap cities was designed and constructed when the populations of the respective cities were much lower than they are today, and it shows.

 

[Admiral Byng]

No. They go right down the bottom of my list of preferences along with all the other nutbags and fruitloops parties. I'll probably even put the Greens ahead of them.

 

[Donners]

But it's not white....

Er, because Australia is so white now?

I think there would still be a very diverse population if immigration were cut.

 

[Pie eyed]

The population can easily be stable at 50-60m, you just need the infrastructure and planning to cater for it.

Not forgetting the food and services of course?

 

[DivideandMultiply]

No. They go right down the bottom of my list of preferences along with all the other nutbags and fruitloops parties. I'll probably even put the Greens ahead of them.

Who do you preference first then because it couldn't be either of the majors?

 

[Upton Sinclair]

Er, because Australia is so white now?

I think there would still be a very diverse population if immigration were cut.

95% Caucasian, no?

 

[Pie eyed]

There is that Freo link to Red-neckery again?
WTF is it with Freo?

 

[Pie eyed]

I can't see your point?

A large swathe of US Muslims are converted African Americans.
I'm more worried about the far more massive numbers of Christians who openly push to change laws and social norms to conform to their weird beliefs. Almost 50% of Australians admit they belong to these sects.
Even many of our elected officials believe in this voodoo.

That is a real issue.

 

[Billy Hunt]

I can't see your point?

A large swathe of US Muslims are converted African Americans.
I more worried about the far more massive numbers of Christians who openly push to change laws and social norms to conform to their weird beliefs. Almost 50% of Australian admit they belong to these sects.
Even many of our elected officials believe in this voodoo.

That is a real issue.

Now I know you are full of shit.