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[JackOutback]

Even if they do make a good Rey movie, it may not count as a sequel era. Could be post sequel. It won't change the binfire of 7-8-9.

We know it won't have Fin or Poe.

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What? If a Rey movie isn’t ST era, then Mando and Boba Fett and Ashoka isn’t OT era. So is that ST?

A Rey movie is most definitely ST era as it involves core ST a character. Likewise if they make a Finn movie.

 

[glenferry23]

Whilst everyone has their price, I’d be quite surprised if John Boyega returned to reprise his role given the mistreatment he experienced.

 

[JackOutback]

Whilst everyone has their price, I’d be quite surprised if John Boyega returned to reprise his role given the mistreatment he experienced.

He’s softened a bit in recent interviews. Says the time passed has allowed him to appreciate some of it a bit more. Probably still unlikely but wouldn’t rule it out.

 

[edgie]

What? If a Rey movie isn’t ST era, then Mando and Boba Fett and Ashoka isn’t OT era. So is that ST?

A Rey movie is most definitely ST era as it involves core ST a character. Likewise if they make a Finn movie.

A Rey movie isn't part of the Sequel Trilogy. The Sequel Trilogy will still stink regardless of it's quality. Much of the media people point to that helps the prequels is media that happens during the time period of the films, not after.

 

[edgie]

Boyega won't be involved if RJ is.

 

[Coolangatta]

Bump.

Anyone else think the Waititi and RJ films will never happen?

They're planning on three movies as far as I know: Mando May 26; Rey Dec 26; Jedi Origin Dec 27.

Maybe they could squeeze in Waititi's film May 27 if he ever gets around to it.

Dec 28 is out cause of Avatar, but May 28 could be a good time (ironic considering 10 years since TLJ) to give RJ another go in the sandbox, but it'd be insanity to give him a trilogy.

I once thought maybe they should just see which films do well and which don't and do some sequels going forward, but...

I'd prefer if these were all standalone films, including RJs, and after that, they just offer DV big bucks to do a film for Dec 30 (no new movies after May 28).

Preferably, a KotOR trilogy, but it could be anything he wanted, really.

And maybe give Nolan a go (a Bane trilogy starring Tom Hardy, would be pretty funny).

Do it before it's too late, these guys are a level above anyone else who's done anything in new SW (though Gilroy is fantastic).

 

[Coolangatta]

But obviously DV doing anything SW let alone KotOR is pie in the sky stuff at this stage, and that is not something they'd dare announce so far out given their track record, even if they did have talks.

Based on what we do know is coming out, or rumoured to be happening, I'd like to see the movie schedule run as I said:

Mando film May 26
Rey film Dec 26
Waititi film May 27
Mangold film Dec 27
RJ film May 28

That's 5 different films, 5 different stories. I think the public can handle two SW films per year if there's only two SW shows running, at least for a while.

Maybe some of these films get sequels, maybe they don't, but if you space these films too far out (I know they said they wanna slow down), the problem is if you do make sequels to any of these, they're going to take forever before they release, and it just delays the inevitable of what they should do in the future: explore new timelines.

Acolyte and Jedi Origin film is a start, but they need to ramp it up at some point and leave behind the old nostalgia road.

As for the live-action TV schedule, I'd be going:

2024: Skeleton Crew and The Acolyte
2025: Andor S2, Ahsoka S2 (this is happening, regardless of whether we think it's needed or not)
2026: Lando and either something new or Acolyte S2 if it's good

Lando could be something that's 2 or even 3 seasons maybe, but once we're at that point, the future shows should mostly be High Republic or some new era.

Edit: but then I'm seeing that Filoni's film is different to the Mando/Grogu film and that Shawn Levy might be getting a film. Yikes. They've really done themselves no favours with all these announcements, it's confusing to keep track of.

Is there anything else I'm missing?

 

[edgie]

Ashoka will be interesting. Do they start fresh in a different galaxy? Seems impossible as the story will have to come back to the central issues with Thrawn. Will Ahsoka ever return? It's like they want to make a clean start but also not...

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[skam85]

Bump.

Anyone else think the Waititi and RJ films will never happen?

They're planning on three movies as far as I know: Mando May 26; Rey Dec 26; Jedi Origin Dec 27.

Maybe they could squeeze in Waititi's film May 27 if he ever gets around to it.

Dec 28 is out cause of Avatar, but May 28 could be a good time (ironic considering 10 years since TLJ) to give RJ another go in the sandbox, but it'd be insanity to give him a trilogy.

I once thought maybe they should just see which films do well and which don't and do some sequels going forward, but...

I'd prefer if these were all standalone films, including RJs, and after that, they just offer DV big bucks to do a film for Dec 30 (no new movies after May 28).

Preferably, a KotOR trilogy, but it could be anything he wanted, really.

And maybe give Nolan a go (a Bane trilogy starring Tom Hardy, would be pretty funny).

Do it before it's too late, these guys are a level above anyone else who's done anything in new SW (though Gilroy is fantastic).

You'd think they'd do something around the 50yr anniversary of ANH, so May 2027.

Which probably just means a cinema release of ANH haha

 

[skam85]

Ashoka will be interesting. Do they start fresh in a different galaxy? Seems impossible as the story will have to come back to the central issues with Thrawn. Will Ahsoka ever return? It's like they want to make a clean start but also not...

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Smart move that they have kept it open to keep Ahsoka alive during the sequel trilogy and answer the question as to why she wasn't there helping. They're not just necessarily backed into a corner of killing her off if they don't want to.

 

[glenferry23]

Smart move that they have kept it open to keep Ahsoka alive during the sequel trilogy and answer the question as to why she wasn't there helping. They're not just necessarily backed into a corner of killing her off if they don't want to.

Ahsoka’s voice was heard through when the previous Jedi were communicating with Rey, which heavily implies she was one with the force at that point in time.

Who knows however. That film really was an abomination.

They could very easily explain Ahsoka’s absence being in another galaxy for decades at time by simply saying:

“Somehow, Ahsoka returned”.

 

[edgie]

Smart move that they have kept it open to keep Ahsoka alive during the sequel trilogy and answer the question as to why she wasn't there helping. They're not just necessarily backed into a corner of killing her off if they don't want to.

Doesn't help the original trilogy, but yes.

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[Royces Hart]

Ahsoka’s voice was heard through when the previous Jedi were communicating with Rey, which heavily implies she was one with the force at that point in time.

Who knows however. That film really was an abomination.

They could very easily explain Ahsoka’s absence being in another galaxy for decades at time by simply saying:

“Somehow, Ahsoka returned”.

Note: Ahsoka died on the way back to her home planet

 

[Coolangatta]

Apparently Lando is going to be a movie.

So that’s two Mando films, Waititi film, Rey film, Mangold film, Lando film, Levy film.

7 movies. And they say they want to slow down and contract, that’s a laugh.

The other stuff has been cancelled but I’m unsure about RJs trilogy. As I’ve said, surely don’t give him a trilogy. Give him one and see how it goes.

I think two Mando films is overkill as well, especially if they still do a S4 but if they don’t then it might be okay.

 

[glenferry23]

With the amount of projects in the works and then cancelled/forgotten about in the Disney era, I really believe it’s happening when I see an offical trailer. I highly doubt all of those above films get made.

 

[Coolangatta]

With the amount of projects in the works and then cancelled/forgotten about in the Disney era, I really believe it’s happening when I see an offical trailer. I highly doubt all of those above films get made.

That's what I'd say if I took over from Kennedy's position. "Look mate, they've said a lot of shit before; don't take their word for it. Believe it when you see it, when that trailer pops up on YouTube."

 

[JackOutback]

They could very easily explain Ahsoka’s absence being in another galaxy for decades at time by simply saying:

“Somehow, Ahsoka returned”.

 

[JackOutback]

I was surprised they decided to schedule two movies in 2026 and one each year after given all the talk of slowing down. I can’t see them adding another to the mix. Five in two-and-a-half years is a lot.

I suspect The Mandalorian & Grogu (please change the title) will take the place of Filoni’s film, which will become a Disney Plus affair. The Rey movie is probably best pitched for the 50th anniversary of Star Wars in 2027. Reckon both Waititi and Mangold are happy to take their time so they might spin out a bit later.

The Lando movie seems to be moving along, so maybe that could fit the other 2026 date. Though given the reception to Solo, I wonder if it’s a good idea to go from series to movie. That said, Glover has a bit of cache at the moment.

 

[Royces Hart]

I suspect The Mandalorian & Grogu (please change the title)

Grogu & The Mandalorian.

You’re welcome.

 

[Coolangatta]

I was surprised they decided to schedule two movies in 2026 and one each year after given all the talk of slowing down. I can’t see them adding another to the mix. Five in two-and-a-half years is a lot.

I suspect The Mandalorian & Grogu (please change the title) will take the place of Filoni’s film, which will become a Disney Plus affair. The Rey movie is probably best pitched for the 50th anniversary of Star Wars in 2027. Reckon both Waititi and Mangold are happy to take their time so they might spin out a bit later.

The Lando movie seems to be moving along, so maybe that could fit the other 2026 date. Though given the reception to Solo, I wonder if it’s a good idea to go from series to movie. That said, Glover has a bit of cache at the moment.

I agree, they should go easy on the cinematic releases.

Lando might be better off as a Disney+ film as well.

And Filoni should only get one cinematic release as you’ve said.

I’d be going:

May 26 Mando film
May 27 Rey film
Dec 27 Mangold film
May 28 Waititi film

Mando part 2 and Lando films on D+.

Don’t know if any of the non Mando films should get sequels or not but I’d be keeping an open mind.

Maybe give Rian another go later on down the track and get Levy’s film out there but that could be another D+. Depends what they go for.

If it’s a smaller, more contained story I think D+ would be fine for some films.

But something like a Rogue Squadron adaptation is made for the big screen and it really should be an adaptation of Stackpole’s novel and made by someone other than Patty Jenkins.

 

[JackOutback]

I agree, they should go easy on the cinematic releases.

Lando might be better off as a Disney+ film as well.

And Filoni should only get one cinematic release as you’ve said.

I’d be going:

May 26 Mando film
May 27 Rey film
Dec 27 Mangold film
May 28 Waititi film

Mando part 2 and Lando films on D+.

Don’t know if any of the non Mando films should get sequels or not but I’d be keeping an open mind.

Maybe give Rian another go later on down the track and get Levy’s film out there but that could be another D+. Depends what they go for.

If it’s a smaller, more contained story I think D+ would be fine for some films.

But something like a Rogue Squadron adaptation is made for the big screen and it really should be an adaptation of Stackpole’s novel and made by someone other than Patty Jenkins.

The next standalone film after Rogue One should have been Fall of the Empire, a Rogue Squadron film by another name showing the fall of Coruscant. As an added benefit, it could have shown the Empire fleeing at the end of the film to Starkiller base, showing the formation of the First Order. Who knows how different things would be if that had been a success and formed part of the greater universe, rather than Solo.

 

[Coolangatta]

The next standalone film after Rogue One should have been Fall of the Empire, a Rogue Squadron film by another name showing the fall of Coruscant. As an added benefit, it could have shown the Empire fleeing at the end of the film to Starkiller base, showing the formation of the First Order. Who knows how different things would be if that had been a success and formed part of the greater universe, rather than Solo.

Yeah, that would’ve been cool.

Anyway, I hope all these movies get made. I want to see what they come up with, what sticks and what doesn’t.

There’s cancelled projects I know won’t happen for sure like Feige’s and the GoT knobs. Just wish they wouldn’t announce these things then pull the plug.

They were running scared and need to take some swings. No need for them to rush anything but get the job done.

The funny thing is out of all the possible films I’d be most interested in seeing what Rian can come up with. I still think it should start off as a standalone with room for a sequel like they did with Solo and just see how it pans out.

None of the other filmmakers have me excited, although Mangold’s could be good - I quite enjoyed the new IJ and loved Logan.

Waititi’s could be great too but he’s a wildcard.

I don’t expect much from the Rey or Mando films funnily enough. Lando could surprise.

I sound like someone who’s talking about his top 8 predictions.

 

[StFly]

The next standalone film after Rogue One should have been Fall of the Empire, a Rogue Squadron film by another name showing the fall of Coruscant. As an added benefit, it could have shown the Empire fleeing at the end of the film to Starkiller base, showing the formation of the First Order. Who knows how different things would be if that had been a success and formed part of the greater universe, rather than Solo.

They didn't need to really do that, just JJ and TFA shouldn't have ended with "pew pew your dead now" in both Hosnian and Starkiller so TLJ could start with a phone call joke, as that really just made illegitimate the first order into said joke to never be believed at all as a credible threat. They just needed to essentially long form the Death star discussion of "I made it and hid a trap lol" for RO to follow up on later part and maybe end on Starkiller actually nuking Hosnian for the suspense. As since you enter on the First order hunting for Finn to run away from, lean into them hunting and being successful, just not on Ach To as that ray of hope for the good guys.

That way TLJ starts in utter panic, First Order sweeps in as that vacuum is felt instead of disregarded entirely so the hold out on Crait for big laser and here's the jedi peoples to die off then hits (as incremental rebellion surges for RotJ cameo), as they turn that tide with the normies more than holding their own as lookit, magic people as focal point to pew pew off as you wish. You could then still do the whole somehow Palp returned and have the Final order as a general insurrection to the First Order for Hux to flip as you do without diverting to comedic nonsense really.

For me, the ST fails as you just can't believe the First or Final Orders, so you have no conflict as it's unbelievable.

 

[JackOutback]

Aaaand... Patty Jenkins saying Rogue Squadron is back in development.

 

[Coolangatta]

Aaaand... Patty Jenkins saying Rogue Squadron is back in development.

Then there is NO way they can ease up on the number of films released with all these announcements they are making.

They should just do as many of them as they can twice a year and don’t do any sequels (no trilogy for Rian).

They’ve already messed that up as Mando is getting two films but as (I think it was you who said) they might release some of these on D+.

They need to say enough is enough and no more new announcements until these movies are done.