He trains hard…he is a fitness guru…works hard on his skills
…but don’t reckon he gets inked…
STARTING 22 FOR 2023 - TOUGH DECISIONS TO BE MADE
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…but don’t reckon he gets inked…
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You are talking about the most evasive player in the league. Watch his highlights. Nobody can tackle him. Having him sitting out on the wing in 50m of space is a waste of his biggest talent.
What next? Move Lynch to CHB because he's a good contested mark? Play Baker in the ruck because he's so courageous?
I'm happy to agree to disagree.
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Happy to agree to disagree.
If you have the most evasive player you put him in space where he only needs to beat one or two.
If you put the most evasive player in a cage that nulifies him. He might be evasive but if he has to get around four he is not superman. The other thing is evasion is meaningless if we do not have the ball.
That is the beauty of having him on the wing and forward, we can kick it to him and he can beat his opponent(s) easier with more space setting ourselves up and kicking more goals as a result as well as helping others out by his strong points
Here is another thing, Bolton's effect is reduced because Taranto, Hopper, Dusty and even Cotch will be applying there trade through the middle at times so they all can't fit in and I would rather Bolton killing it on a wing and up forward than Cotch, Hopper plodding along on a wing.
Furthermore, Bolton is not Akermanis in terms of kicking on both feet, Sonsie is better dual sided and Hopper is less dominant to increasing their impact from more central positions. Bolton can exploit his disposal more from a wing position and the fact he can drift in makes him a matchup nightmare for oppositions as well as drifting forward in terms of structural versatility for our team especially as Pickett is the everywhere man
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So what does that most evasive player in the AFL do on the wing when the opposition get the ball and kick it foward ?
Go for a drink and just wait ?
One of the most stupid things i have heard playing your most dangerous Mid/Fwd on the wing , Next you will be telling us Dusty should play half Back because he can dont argue the oppositions fowards
B- Grimes Balta Baker
HB- D.Rioli Tarrant Vlaustin
C- Pickett Hopper Short
HF- Martin Lynch Bolton
F- Cumberland Riewoldt M.Rioli
FOLL- Nankervis Taranto Prestia
I/C- Cotchin, Miller, Ross, Graham, Ralphsmith
Emerg
Sonsie, Broad, Gibcus, Soldo, Mclntosh,
Dow, Castanga, Ryan, Nyuon, Clarke, Brown, Banks, Mansell
HB- D.Rioli Tarrant Vlaustin
C- Pickett Hopper Short
HF- Martin Lynch Bolton
F- Cumberland Riewoldt M.Rioli
FOLL- Nankervis Taranto Prestia
I/C- Cotchin, Miller, Ross, Graham, Ralphsmith
Emerg
Sonsie, Broad, Gibcus, Soldo, Mclntosh,
Dow, Castanga, Ryan, Nyuon, Clarke, Brown, Banks, Mansell
Not a bad effort, but Baker to the bench where he can be used as a utility, Short to HB, McIntosh to the wing, Broad to the bench for defence rotations, Ross & Ralphsmith as emergencies
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Excited to see him progress next year
See danger has proposed 34 games if the quarters are shortened. Was that on April 1? But if that happens 2024 depth and rotation will come in big time and our depth will work.
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Same, there aren't too many lefties that can use the right. A good defender knows you only have a left foot and can block you in on that side and is expecting you to want to get back onto your left. The thing is, if you haven't learned to kick both feet in juniors it's probably too late.
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It’s amazing the difference bringing in 2 x starting 18 players and losing no-one makes to the depth of your squad.
Assuming we move to a 5-man interchange then here are the players I feel are 100% guaranteed to be selected when fit in 2023:
Grimes
Balta
Baker
Rioli
Vlastuin
Hopper
Short
Martin
Lynch
Bolton
Riewoldt
Nankervis
Prestia
Taranto
Then there are a range of near certainties like but if everyone is fit and firing I couldn’t say for sure everyone else will play if out of form or they have a little niggle etc….
But the exciting thing is we have 27 players who are proven to be of AFL standard… add to those 14 players above:
Tarrant
Pickett
Cumberland
MRJ
Cotchin
Ross
Ralphsmith
Soldo
Miller
Graham
Sonsie
Gibcus
Broad
McIntosh
Then there’s a chance some more players will join those 27 in 2023 … the likes of Clarke, Ryan, Brown, Banks etc….
But having 27 players on the list who’ve proven to be capable AFL players is as much depth as any other team which is a great way to start the season.
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They should forget about shorter quarters and just play 34 games across 25 x weeks. And simply limit each player to 30 x H&A games maximum.
Let’s face it … at the end of each 22 x game season most teams only have 4-5 players who’ve played every game … due to injury, form, suspension etc…. So all you need to do is give players a weeks rest every 6-7 games. If each player can only play 30 games then it’s an average of a game every 6-days. It’s not a problem.
Then have in the first week of finals 7v10 and 8v9 for those last 2 x spots, so teams can be kept interested in the season for longer as getting to 10th won’t be out if reach for most teams until very late in the season.
Then each team players each other twice so it’s perfectly fair. And footy lovers get more footy, more often. Double headers. Mid-week games all the time and so on.
And to anyone whingeing about how long the season will become for bottom teams … by god … a US baseball season is 176 games isn’t it? An NBA season 70+. An EPL season 35 games. Anyone complaining much about ‘too many games’?
And the money will be there to support increasing list sizes by 5 per team to account for the longer season. And when the revenue is almost doubled, the game will attract way more talented youngsters over other sports due to a booming salary cap.
It just means teams have to manage their playing lists during the season. And with a maximum of 30 games per player, burn out won’t be an issue. And even if a career is 10-years instead of 12, they’ll play more games anyway (10 x 30 = 300… 12 x 22 = 244).
We’ve got to stop listening to the footy journos who seem to hate the game more often than not… always crying for shorter quarters, less footy etc… listen to the real footy fans like us - give us more footy!!
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100% The AFL season should consist of 34 rounds
Doesnt mean it will take 38/39 weeks to complete a season though
During the 2020 season we seen a compression of games where 3 rounds were played across 18 days
They could complete 34 rounds + Finals in 34 weeks which would mean 18 weeks no football
Just give the players time off until new years and start preseason 1st week of january
Then we could have a proper season , We see other sports playing this amount of games why not AFL
Do you see any contact sports playing that amount of rounds?
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The way AFL is going we wont need to worry about it being contact or not any longer
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If broad isn’t in the round 1 side 2023 I’ll be damned
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He came out of the blue as a Full Forward…Much like Towner in ‘17…
And whilst we all loved the spiritual beast, he was never gonna hang around… This one will…
I keep seeing people placing Short ahead of McIntosh on the wing. I find this difficult to understand. I appreciate that Short is a better kick but McIntosh role is more about dropping back into defense as marking option, giving a marking option during kick outs, acting as a link player in running chains and as surprize option for goal from the arc. Short is excellent by foot but to do McIntosh's role, he needs to develop a much bigger engine and become far more disciplined defensively.
What’s so tough about this and where’s hopper
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B: Tarrant, Grimes, Gibcus
HB: Short, Vlastuin, Rioli
C: Pickett, Hopper, McIntosh
R:Cotchin, Nank, Tarranto
HF: Riewoldt, Dusty, Bolton
F: MRJ, Lynch, Cumbo
Int: baker, Ralph-Smith, Miller, Sonsie
Don’t think it gets better than that tbh. Best in the league. I think Broad, Soldo and Graham are expendable now.
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HB: Short, Vlastuin, Rioli
C: Pickett, Hopper, McIntosh
R:Cotchin, Nank, Tarranto
HF: Riewoldt, Dusty, Bolton
F: MRJ, Lynch, Cumbo
Int: baker, Ralph-Smith, Miller, Sonsie
Don’t think it gets better than that tbh. Best in the league. I think Broad, Soldo and Graham are expendable now.
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B: Grimes, Balta, Broad
HB: Vlastuin, Gibcus, Rioli
C: Pickett, Hopper, Ralph-Smith
HF: Tarranto, Lynch, Bolton
F: MRJ, Riewoldt, Cumbo
R: Nank, Dusty, Prestia
Int: Baker, Miller, Sonsie, Cotchin, Short
Unlucky MacIntosh only because Hugo could be really good if he gets a good go at it, his upside/speed is a major asset.
Ross probably first in.
HB: Vlastuin, Gibcus, Rioli
C: Pickett, Hopper, Ralph-Smith
HF: Tarranto, Lynch, Bolton
F: MRJ, Riewoldt, Cumbo
R: Nank, Dusty, Prestia
Int: Baker, Miller, Sonsie, Cotchin, Short
Unlucky MacIntosh only because Hugo could be really good if he gets a good go at it, his upside/speed is a major asset.
Ross probably first in.
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yep, not going to happen if we have our heads screwed on right
