STARTING 22 FOR 2023 - TOUGH DECISIONS TO BE MADE

[Hank Heavenly]

I keep seeing people placing Short ahead of McIntosh on the wing. I find this difficult to understand. I appreciate that Short is a better kick but McIntosh role is more about dropping back into defense as marking option, giving a marking option during kick outs, acting as a link player in running chains and as surprize option for goal from the arc. Short is excellent by foot but to do McIntosh's role, he needs to develop a much bigger engine and become far more disciplined defensively.

Not he's not, I'm not sure if you watch our games closely at all???

He's a defensive running wingman, 100% he is, and there's not too many better than him there, but he's not a marking target at all. He rarely goes up as the third man up in a defensive marking contest. Grimes, Vlas are generally set up as a spare to take that role.

And as for kick outs, I'm not sure you are looking there either. We have a couple of "go to's" for our kick outs. Short pass into the pocket and then long down the line or play on from the square and long down the line. And we always go to a KPF or Ruck, not a tall winger.

Just because he is tall, doesn't automatically mean he's a better marking option.

Most of Kmac's marks will be when we switch the ball across the back half and he has run hard to make space by himself out on the wing. It's great workrate, but nothing to do with his height, nor is it something that can't be replicated by a smaller player.

 

[Football Tragic]

Not he's not, I'm not sure if you watch our games closely at all???

He's a defensive running wingman, 100% he is, and there's not too many better than him there, but he's not a marking target at all. He rarely goes up as the third man up in a defensive marking contest. Grimes, Vlas are generally set up as a spare to take that role.

And as for kick outs, I'm not sure you are looking there either. We have a couple of "go to's" for our kick outs. Short pass into the pocket and then long down the line or play on from the square and long down the line. And we always go to a KPF or Ruck, not a tall winger.

Just because he is tall, doesn't automatically mean he's a better marking option.

Most of Kmac's marks will be when we switch the ball across the back half and he has run hard to make space by himself out on the wing. It's great workrate, but nothing to do with his height, nor is it something that can't be replicated by a smaller player.

McIntosh uses his height and size in defense when he runs back to guard the fat side of the F50. He doesn't take a lot of overhead marks, that is true, but his height is a factor in spoiling and his size important in marking contests. If you look at McIntosh's average distance covered you'll see its his too way running that puts him ahead of Short. Short has the better desposal but McIntosh is more disciplined and dogged in his defensive role. We do not win games when we are opened up with 'switches' so holding his width down the wing is crucial.

 

[YeOldTiger]

Macca's best asset in my view, and it goes for Pickett as well on the other wing, is that they are rarely beaten in one on one battles when the ball is on the deck out in the open. He keeps his feet and wins or at worst halves most of those battles.

His size helps him, his ability to keep his feet, win the ball and then run on has been critical to us. I reckon that's why Dimma loves him and Pickett. Bloody hard blokes and bloody hard to replace.

(There's a fair few wingers and mids who take small steps and have a bit of a look around when Marlion is in the vecinity lol)

 

[Area51]

Burge gone. New fitness dude in charge. Hopefully no more 10 week hammies.

 

[Dunger]

Burge gone. New fitness dude in charge. Hopefully no more 10 week hammies.

"hamstring awareness"

 

[Sir_Loin]

Burge gone. New fitness dude in charge. Hopefully no more 10 week hammies.

Who is it?

 

[Dystraction]

B: Tarrant, Grimes, Gibcus

HB: Short, Vlastuin, Rioli

C: Pickett, Hopper, McIntosh

R:Cotchin, Nank, Tarranto

HF: Riewoldt, Dusty, Bolton

F: MRJ, Lynch, Cumbo

Int: baker, Ralph-Smith, Miller, Sonsie

Don’t think it gets better than that tbh. Best in the league. I think Broad, Soldo and Graham are expendable now.


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And you haven't even included Balta and Prestia in that team. Man, we now have so much depth. Glad I don't have to pick the team.

 

[Football Tragic]

B: Tarrant, Grimes, Balta (Depth - Gibcus)

HB: Broad, Vlastuin, Rioli (Depth - Short)

C: Pickett, Hopper, McIntosh (Depth - Ross)

R:Nank, Prestia, Tarranto (Depth - Graham)

HF: Cumberland, Riewoldt , Bolton (Depth - Ralph-Smith)

F: MRJ, Lynch, Dusty (Depth - Castagna)

Int: Cotchin, Miller, Baker, Sonsie (Depth - Soldo, Clarke, Brown, Banks, Ryan, Biggie)

As we all know, the only depth we're lacking is in a KPF. Other than that, we are looking ready for another shot at a flag

 

[Falcon3518]

And you haven't even included Balta and Prestia in that team. Man, we now have so much depth. Glad I don't have to pick the team.

Jesus I’m a dickhead. Prestia in for Ralph-smith. Anybody else prefers Miller over Balta? I think Miller is a beast and I’d rather develop Gibcus over Balta.


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[YeOldTiger]

And you haven't even included Balta and Prestia in that team. Man, we now have so much depth. Glad I don't have to pick the team.

Lol Prestia and Balta depth !

 

[lumpinee]

when ya got 3 x premiership winning star Jason 'Chaos King' Castagna as the Ace up your sleeve come september anythings possible
im puttin it out there early,he kicks 2 match winners in the last to get us home in the '23 granny

catapulting him into Tiger Folklore

 

[lumpinee]

seriously tho,chaos aside getting massive vibes on our chances of hoisting the trophy in '23 on the back of recruitment past 2 years

 

[Dr Tigris]

seriously tho,chaos aside getting massive vibes on our chances of hoisting the trophy in '23 on the back of recruitment past 2 years

I know. Outside of the midfield we had close the best team last year.

So, apart from the guys that allow us to control the ball we were really good. Hmm, maybe something to fix. Come on down Mr Blair. Two, did you say 2!! top notch mids to let us control the ball.

Does that leave us with one of the best midfields in the league, plus everything else looking top notch? Why yes it does. Hoping for a very nice 2023.

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

I know. Outside of the midfield we had close the best team last year.

So, apart from the guys that allow us to control the ball we were really good. Hmm, maybe something to fix. Come on down Mr Blair. Two, did you say 2!! top notch mids to let us control the ball.

Does that leave us with one of the best midfields in the league, plus everything else looking top notch? Why yes it does. Hoping for a very nice 2023.

But...but...an uninjured fit Dusty is coming back to help us control the mid ball...that must count!

 

[beema limapep]

I keep seeing people placing Short ahead of McIntosh on the wing. I find this difficult to understand. I appreciate that Short is a better kick but McIntosh role is more about dropping back into defense as marking option, giving a marking option during kick outs, acting as a link player in running chains and as surprize option for goal from the arc. Short is excellent by foot but to do McIntosh's role, he needs to develop a much bigger engine and become far more disciplined defensively.

We should have traded Short for a top 10 pick and drafted a key fwd.

 

[beema limapep]

Jesus I’m a dickhead. Prestia in for Ralph-smith. Anybody else prefers Miller over Balta? I think Miller is a beast and I’d rather develop Gibcus over Balta.


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Anyone reckon Balta should be given another chance as a key fwd? Somebody will need to be groomed as a back up for insurance and it's either him or that young whipper snapper Gubcis.

 

[energyquant]

Anyone reckon Balta should be given another chance as a key fwd? Somebody will need to be groomed as a back up for insurance and it's either him or that young whipper snapper Gubcis.

 

[Hank Heavenly]

We should have traded Short for a top 10 pick and drafted a key fwd.

You mean you would rather keep an average footballer who hasn't always kept his spot in the side but certainly plays his role

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PEAK BF

 

[Dr Tigris]

But...but...an uninjured fit Dusty is coming back to help us control the mid ball...that must count!

Who?

I thought he wasn't fit to tie Danger's shoelaces.

 

[Dr Tigris]

But...but...an uninjured fit Dusty is coming back to help us control the mid ball...that must count!

Seriously. A fit and firing Dusty could be amazing this coming year. If we can feed him, which is when he plays best, then he could tear the comp a new one .... again.

I'd guess 30:70 or 40:60 mid forward split.

 

[Grrr]

Anyone reckon Balta should be given another chance as a key fwd? Somebody will need to be groomed as a back up for insurance and it's either him or that young whipper snapper Gubcis.

Anyone reckon Balta should be given another chance as a key fwd? Somebody will need to be groomed as a back up for insurance and it's either him or that young whipper snapper Gubcis.

No I think he should be playing Tarrant's role and let him develop into the gun should be. Last year I was up for it as Lynch and Jack were pretty average in 2021 but our forward line functioned well last year so let it be.

I think Miller has the makings of a forward, might not be a star but with his speed and athleticism all he has to do is lead and compete. If average footballers like Mihocek can make it just by hitting the contest, no reason why he couldn't.

 

[beema limapep]

You mean you would rather keep an average footballer who hasn't always kept his spot in the side but certainly plays his role

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PEAK BF

Who is the average footballer Im keeping??

 

[Falcon3518]

Anyone reckon Balta should be given another chance as a key fwd? Somebody will need to be groomed as a back up for insurance and it's either him or that young whipper snapper Gubcis.

Nah that experiment is over for me. We should actually recruit a forward to do that role.


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[Mr Unbelievable]

Who?

I thought he wasn't fit to tie Danger's shoelaces.

 

[Hank Heavenly]

Who is the average footballer Im keeping??

I assumed Kmac, given you quoted a post comparing Kmac and Short...

Then your post wanted to get rid of Short. I just went 2+2=4