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Ron The Bear said:
Collingwood and West Coast are the only two instances since Carlton in 1967. Incidentally, it was the year that "out on the full" was first penalised by a free kick.

1960's - 18 times
1950's - 15
1940's - 4
1930's - 3
1920's - 33
1910's - 55
1900's - 58
1890's - 20
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Tks Ron....not surprised about before 1950's numbers, but very surprised that West Coast only team to achieve this in last 43 years.

Few teams have gone close with only 1 game, Saints, Essendon & Geelong.

When did the centre square come in ? As during 1970's & 1980's scoring became much easier.
 
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red+black said:
Adding colour to those pages was a suggestion of mine. ie. colours for 1st, last and those in the top 4/5/6/8. Don't think I suggested pink though :p
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Let's call it light mauve.

So my proposal is a secondary stat for all of these, but after a certain date.
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I have done that in a couple of spots (possibly also at your request), but I can't say I'm a big fan of the idea. That idea would work if the content were dynamically generated, but it's too late in the day for me to get my head around that.

I started to write what was a going to be a downloadable program to do more custom thingies, but it petered out.
 

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OK - here's one for all Doyens/Gurus of the Stats Board.

We all know that no two team members have scored 100 goals or more in the same season, and that the closest we've had to that was the Peter Hudson/Leigh Matthews duo in 1977 (Hudson with 110 and Matthews with 91).

What's the greatest number of teammates from the one season who have kicked more than X number of goals (in lumps of ten)

So, here's the kickoff for the list (most recent occurrence in brackets):

100 - 1 (Hawthorn 2008: Franklin 113)
90 - 2 (Hawthorn 1977: Hudson 110, Matthews 91)
80 -
70 -
60 -
50 -
40 -
30 -
20 -
10 -
 
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damuzzdu said:
When did the centre square come in ? As during 1970's & 1980's scoring became much easier.
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Centre diamond 1973-74 (good years those, bring back the diamond!), square 1975.

Correction to the above: out on the full was introduced in 1969.

UpForGrabs said:
What's the greatest number of teammates from the one season who have kicked more than X number of goals (in lumps of ten)
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Code: 
Gls Pl Cb Year Players & goals
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100  1 Ha 2008 Franklin 113 + 56 other instances
 90  2 Ha 1977 Hudson 110,Matthews 91
 80  2 Ri 1980 Roach 112, Bartlett 84
     2 Ha 1977
 70  2 Ha 2008 Franklin 113, Roughead 75 
     2 Br 2008 Bradshaw 75, Brown 70
     2 Ge 1992 Brownless 79, Ablett 72
     2 Me 1982 Healy 77, Jackson 76
     2 Ri 1980
     2 Ha 1978 Moncrieff 90, Matthews 71
     2 Ha 1977
     2 Ha 1976 Moncrieff 97, Matthews 71
 60  3 NM 1993 Longmire 75, McAdam 68, Carey 64 
 50  3 Br 2000 Lynch 68, Bradshaw 56, Power 52 
     3 Me 1994 Lyon 79, Schwarz 60, Jakovich 51
     3 NM 1993
     3 Ha 1984 Matthews 77, Judge 63, Brereton 50
     3 Ha 1977
     3 Ri 1972 Balme 55, McLean 55, Hart 52
     3 Ri 1971 Hart 59, Bartlett 53, Richardson 50
     3 Co 1938 Todd 120, Fothergill 65, Pannam 54 
     3 Sy 1935 Pratt 103, Moore 52, Nash 51
     3 Me 1926 Moyes 55, Davie 50, Johnson 50
 40  5 NM 1983 J.Krakouer 44, P.Krakouer 44, Hodgeman 41, McCann 41, Schimmelbusch 40
 30  7 Ca 1979 Sheldon 53, MacLure 45, Fitzpatrick 36, Galt 36, Marcou 34, Johnston 31, Catoggio 30
 20 11 Es 1984 Salmon 63, Daniher 48, Harvey 28, Madden 27, Williams 27, Baker 26, Dunell 25, Watson 25, Vander Haar 23, Hawker 21, Merrett 20
 10 17 Br 1999 Molloy 44, McRae 41, Lynch 31, Johnson 25, Lappin 23, Voss 23, Black 19, Hart 18, Keating 18, Champion 17, Power 17, Akermanis 16, Ashcroft 16, Leppitsch 14, White 14, Notting 13, Lawrence 12
    17 NM 1979 Blight 60, Glendenning 59, Schimmelbusch 24, Briedis 19, Easton 18, Melrose 18, Bryant 17, Good 17, Ebert 15, Tanner 15, Boyse 14, Cassin 14, Dempsey 14, Murphy 14, Sutton 14, Crosswell 13, Cornes 10
 
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damuzzdu said:
Has any team scored 200+ pts in consecutive weeks and has any teams conceded 200+ pts in consecutive weeks ?
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Scored:
Geelong 239 round 7 1992 v Brisbane
Geelong 210 round 8 1992 v Adelaide

Sydney 201 round 16 1987 v West Coast
Sydney 236 round 17 1987 v Essendon

Conceded:
St Kilda 222 round 16 1980 v Richmond
St Kilda 211 round 17 1980 v Collingwood
 
Pie 4 Life said:
What are the records for most individual goal kickers in a season?
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By club?

Code: 
Gk Cb Year
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38 St 1980
38 Ca 1990
38 Es 1994
37 Es 1992
37 Es 2007
36 Es 1983
36 Co 1986
36 Me 1986
36 Es 2010
35 Es 1971
35 Ge 1982
35 Me 1984
35 Fi 1987
35 Me 1987
35 Es 1991
35 Ad 1998
35 St 2001
35 Es 2008
35 Ri 2009
 

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Ron The Bear said:
By club?

Code: 
Gk Cb Year
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38 St 1980
38 Ca 1990
38 Es 1994
37 Es 1992
37 Es 2007
36 Es 1983
36 Co 1986
36 Me 1986
36 Es 2010
35 Es 1971
35 Ge 1982
35 Me 1984
35 Fi 1987
35 Me 1987
35 Es 1991
35 Ad 1998
35 St 2001
35 Es 2008
35 Ri 2009
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Wow ok, and I thought the Pies' 30 (from 32 players) this year was pretty impressive.
 
Pie 4 Life said:
Wow ok, and I thought the Pies' 30 (from 32 players) this year was pretty impressive.
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Top teams are generally more stable and use fewer players, hence most of the teams on that list were mediocre or worse.

Greatest percentage of goalkickers among players used:

Code: 
  %   Year Cb Gk PU
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96.97 1988 WC 32 33
96.67 1987 Ha 29 30
95.00 1994 Es 38 40
94.87 2007 Es 37 39
94.74 1983 Es 36 38
94.44 1995 WC 34 36
94.12 2004 Es 32 34
94.12 2006 WC 32 34
93.94 1988 Ha 31 33
93.75 1994 Br 30 32
93.75 1994 Me 30 32
93.75 2002 NM 30 32
93.75 2004 Br 30 32
93.75 2006 Ad 30 32
93.75 2011 Co 30 32


eth38 said:
Roger/Ron/anyone else who can answer this, what was the lowest amount of 100+ point wins in one season during the 1990's?
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3, in 1990, 1994, 1998 & 1999.
 
damuzzdu said:
What's the highest average winning margin since the war ?

Collingwood currently sit on 60.5 pts which must be pretty high.
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All time:

Code: 
 AWM  Cb Year Wn
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69.72 Ge 1992 18
67.33 Sy 1985  6
64.72 Ge 1989 18
63.63 Ad 1996  8
63.50 St 1986  2
61.33 Me 1966  3
61.71 WC 2000  7
60.47 Co 2011 17
58.73 Sy 1987 15
57.11 Ha 1991 19
 
Ron The Bear said:
All time:

Code: 
 AWM  Cb Year Wn
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69.72 Ge 1992 18
67.33 Sy 1985  6
64.72 Ge 1989 18
63.63 Ad 1996  8
63.50 St 1986  2
61.33 Me 1966  3
61.71 WC 2000  7
60.47 Co 2011 17
58.73 Sy 1987 15
57.11 Ha 1991 19
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Thanks Ron...

was thinking more about teams with at least 12-14 wins....

Interesting of those listed only Hawks in 91 won the GF. Collingwood of course still going.
 
Last night Port Adelaide scored 3.3, but the 3 behinds were rushed.

Disregarding rushed behinds, when were the last three times
a) a team kicked no behinds in a game?
b) a team had only two scoring shots in a half?
c) a team had only one scoring shot in a half?
d) a team had only three scoring shots in a game?
 
red+black said:
Last night Port Adelaide scored 3.3, but the 3 behinds were rushed.

Disregarding rushed behinds, when were the last three times
a) a team kicked no behinds in a game?
b) a team had only two scoring shots in a half?
c) a team had only one scoring shot in a half?
d) a team had only three scoring shots in a game?
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a) 1953 round 5 Fitzroy 1.0-6
1949 round 12 Hawthorn 7.0-42
1899 round 9 St Kilda 1.0-6

b) 2011 round 18 - Adelaide (2nd half)
2009 round 5 - Brisbane (2nd half)
2005 round 21 - West Coast (2nd half)

c) 2009 round 15 - Fremantle (1st half)
1996 round 1 - Sydney (1st half)
1991 round 1 - Melbourne (1st half)

d) 1906 round 15 - Melbourne 2.1-13
1903 round 7 - Carlton 1.2-8
1899 Sec.B R3 - Essendon 2.1-13
 
RogersResults said:
a) 1953 round 5 Fitzroy 1.0-6
1949 round 12 Hawthorn 7.0-42
1899 round 9 St Kilda 1.0-6
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Brisbane kicked 7.0 (one RB) last year v Hawthorn

b) 2011 round 18 - Adelaide (2nd half)
2009 round 5 - Brisbane (2nd half)
2005 round 21 - West Coast (2nd half)
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Adelaide's was only one shot (one RB)
Other twos
Port v St Kilda RD 5, 2009
Nth v Ade, R12, 2009
Ade v Mel, Rd 3, 2010

c) 2009 round 15 - Fremantle (1st half)
1996 round 1 - Sydney (1st half)
1991 round 1 - Melbourne (1st half)
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Other ones
Gee v Stk, R13, 2010
Freo v Stk, R5, 2009
and the Adel one above
 
And the next challenge for the database kings is:

with Chris Tarrant in the news recently celebrating 250 games, how many players have returned to a club after playing for another? There will be some very well known names in this list, such as David Cloke, Bill Picken, Carl Ditterich twice, and even Warwick Capper, but how many altogether?
 
84

Code: 
Player            Clubs           Career   Gms Gls
--------------------------------------------------
Baker, Phil       NM,Ge,NM       1971-1979 106 125
Baker, Ted        Ca,Co,Ge,Co,WB 1920-1934 142 139
Baquie, Jack      Me,Ca,Me       1907-1920  91  34
Barnes, John      Es,Ge,Es       1987-2001 202  90
Belcher, Norman   Ge,Es,Ge       1899-1906  10   3
Bell, Peter       Fr,NM,Fr       1995-2008 286 250
Bennett, George   Ha,WB,Ha       1930-1944 200  23
Bennett, John J.  St,WB,St       1980-1986  38  49
Black, Heath      Fr,St,Fr       1997-2008 192  80
Butcher, Jack     Ge,Sy,Ge       1938-1945 118  34
Capper, Warwick   Sy,Br,Sy       1983-1991 124 388
Carr, Josh        PA,Fr,PA       2000-2010 207 109
Cloke, David      Ri,Co,Ri       1974-1991 333 323
Cowton, Gary      NM,WB,Sy,NM    1971-1984 199  39
Croad, Trent      Ha,Fr,Ha       1998-2008 222 189
Curtin, Claude    Fi,NM,Fi       1939-1949  97 276
Daniels, Jayson   St,Sy,St       1988-1998 173  29
Deller, Roy       NM,WB,NM       1936-1944  32   6
Ditterich, Carl   St,Me,St,Me    1963-1980 285 199
Dougherty, George Ca,Ge,WB,Ge,Sy 1934-1945 173 259
Eason, Alec       Ge,Ri,Ge       1909-1921 162  88
Eicke, Wels       St,NM,St       1909-1926 218  61
Fields, Neville   Es,Sy,Es       1969-1982 200 193
Fleming, Keith    Fi,Ha,Fi       1930-1934   7   4
Gniel, George     Ge,Ca,Ge       1939-1947 143  11
Gough, Lew        Ha,Me,Ha       1925-1932  17  17
Grant, Jack W.    Ge,Fi,Ge       1935-1946 145 157
Harwood, Bill     Ge,Sy,Ge       1940-1948  84  21
Hawke, Paul       Sy,Co,Sy       1984-1991 114 102
Heffernan, Chris  Es,Me,Es       1997-2007 170  56
Hooper, Don       Me,St,Me       1932-1943  62  31
Horwood, Ray      Co,Ri,Co       1946-1954  82  39
Irwin, Warwick    Fi,Co,Fi       1970-1983 229 244
Jones, Bernie     Ha,Es,Ha       1973-1980  86  43
Kearney, Jim      Ge,Ri,Ge       1915-1921  79  17
Keenan, Peter     Me,NM,Es,Me    1970-1982 213 123
Kelly, Harvey     Sy,Ca,Sy       1902-1914  92 127
Landy, Graeme     Ge,Ri,Ge       1975-1988 174  69
Leahy, Pat        Ge,Sy,Ge,Sy    1939-1945  32  23
Lord, Aaron       Ge,Ha,Ge       1994-2003 150 185
Lumsden, Ernie    Co,Es,Co       1910-1920 112 106
Marsham, Harry    Ge,Ri,Ge       1909-1919 136  67
Martini, Percy    Ge,Ri,Ge       1909-1920 158 355
Matthews, E. Herb Sy,Ri,Me,Sy    1914-1924  85  51
Matthews, Norm    Me,Sy,Me       1935-1944  43   7
McGhie, Robert    WB,Ri,WB,Sy    1969-1981 146   7
McKenzie, Jock    Sy,Fi,Sy       1931-1940 103  82
McKernan, Corey   NM,Ca,NM       1993-2004 237 310
McMullin, Ian     Co,Es,Co       1984-1993  49  55
McPhee, Adam      Fr,Es,Fr       2001-2011 201 110
Montgomery, Brett WB,PA,WB       1997-2007 204 119
Morwood, Paul     Sy,St,Sy,Co    1977-1987 170  81
Murphy, Justin    Ri,Ca,Ge,Ca,Es 1994-2005 185 151
Murray, Sel       NM,Ri,NM       1937-1948 121 461
Nankervis, Vic A. Ge,WB,St,Ge,Sy 1941-1946  46  68
Newland, Ken      Ge,WB,Ge       1965-1978 216 255
Nichols, Trent    Ri,WC,NM,Ri    1988-1998 112 107
O'Brien, Bernie   WB,Ca,WB       1929-1938 100 136
Orchard, Mark     Co,Sy,Co       1995-2000  86  15
Parke, Bert       Ca,Me,Ca       1905-1913  51   0
Peart, Neil       Co,Ri,WB,Ri    1982-1987  62  14
Peos, Paul        WC,Br,WC       1987-1995  88  74
Picken, Billy     Co,Sy,Co       1974-1986 240  46
Ramsay, Roy       NM,Es,NM       1976-1986 126  11
Rantall, John     Sy,NM,Sy,Fi    1963-1980 336  10
Ryan, Reg         NM,Co,NM       1939-1950  72   0
Salmon, Paul      Es,Ha,Es       1983-2002 324 561
Schmidt, Billy    Ri,St,Ri       1908-1921 165 148
Sharp, Bill       St,NM,St       1938-1945  30   6
Smith, Terry      Ri,St,Ri       1980-1986 100  40
Southern, Wally   Ge,Sy,Ge,St    1941-1946  31  13
Tarrant, Chris    Co,Fr,Co       1998-2011 250 361
Taylor, Dick J.   Me,NM,Me       1922-1935 204 125
Thomas, Reg       Sy,WB,Sy       1931-1936  32  26
Toyne, Len        Ge,Fi,Ge,Me    1940-1949  59  37
Tucker, Neil      Ge,Ca,Ge       1935-1944  63  20
Tuddenham, Des    Co,Es,Co       1962-1977 251 317
Vernon, Daryl     Ri,Sy,Ri       1981-1985  17   5
Vosti, Jack       Es,WB,Es       1925-1935 127  80
Walsh, Wayne      Ri,Sy,Ri       1968-1978 151  35
White, Lindsay    Ge,Sy,Ge       1941-1950 142 540
Wira, Brad        Fr,WB,Fr       1995-2001  96  18
 
Thanks for all that effort Ron, though it doesn't seem to have taken you long to compile. I guess that's what databases can do for you.

84 players was much more than I was anticipating.
 

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