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I make it round 17 of 2009, 2010 and 2014. In 2014 there were three teams with the same total of points at the bottom. Of course, all these teams from all three seasons would also have needed to win by substantial margins in order to boost their percentages.

Does that include teams above them being able to get a result? Cause if a team is 6 games outside the 8 and the 8th and 9th teams are both on the same wins and playing each other in the last 6 games even a draw makes it impossible to make the 8
 
And seeing as we may see a new record set this season...
Earliest in a season that no team can drop out of the top 8?
 
Does that include teams above them being able to get a result? Cause if a team is 6 games outside the 8 and the 8th and 9th teams are both on the same wins and playing each other in the last 6 games even a draw makes it impossible to make the 8

As far as I can determine, this would make it possible for the bottom teams of 2010 and 2014, but it would not allow the bottom team of 2009 to make the finals after round 17.
 

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I'd be interested to see a table of Worst combined record for two teams. eg.

0-55 St Kilda (0-48) v Melbourne (0-7), R1, 1900
0-47 Melbourne (0-8) v University (0-39), R6, 1914
0-26 Essendon (0-14) v Brisbane (0-12), R18, 2016
0-20 Gold Coast (0-10) v Brisbane (0-10), R16, 2016
 
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Unchanged since R6. In 2010, unchanged after R11.

That's not what I meant, I explained it poorly. I meant the earliest time in a season that the top 8 teams are all mathematical certainties to make the top 8. i.e 4 games seperating 8th and 9th with 3 games remaining in the season.
 
i reckon

kick good
kick contested
handball contested
low mark
clearance after a hit out
Ha, my best guess would be:

KG - Kick off the ground
KC - Clanger kick
HC - Clanger handball
LM - Mark taken on the lead
CHO - Hitout resulting in a clearance
 
Ha, my best guess would be:

KG - Kick off the ground
KC - Clanger kick
HC - Clanger handball
LM - Mark taken on the lead
CHO - Hitout resulting in a clearance
I think they are all correct except the last one which might be centre bounce hit out (since clearances are broken into CC and C in that view).
 
Six players including Hodge and Ablett debuted before they were 18yo. Which player each year for the past 10 years has been the youngest to debut? I imagine as years go by the youngest will get older and older. Please include age on debut (##y ###d).

2016 - ???
2015 - ???, etc
 

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Who were the last 3 players to play a final for Team A against Team B, and for Team B against Team A?
eg. Jason Akermanis: 1999 & 2000 (BL v WB) ; 2009 (WB v BL)

Who were the last 3 players to play a final for Team A against Team C, and for Team B against Team C?
eg. Jason Akermanis played finals against SK, SY and GE, while playing for both BL and WB.
 
Ron The Bear I meant to ask this earlier in the year, but when was the last time the VFL/AFL had this many coaches who weren't star players? For the purpose of "star" player I'm saying played than 150 games in the VFL/AFL. Pyke, Bolton, Lyon, Clarkson, Hinkley, Richardson and Beveridge all played less than 150 games to make 38% of head coaches.

The trend is similar in rugby league with coaches Shane Flanagan, Neil Henry, Andrew McFadden, Brad Arthur, Anthony Griffin, Michael Maguire and Trent Robinson all boasting mediocre or non existent careers at the top level.

I know you won't have the NRL stats, but I'm interested in the profile of AFL coaches over the last 10-20 years. It feels like if you go back 10 years just about every head coach in the AFL had at least a solid playing career, if not a great career. I'm pretty sure the NRL was the same.

It feels like Australian sport is finally catching up with the rest of the world in separating an individuals ability as a player and coach. You look at the big European Football League and the professional leagues and most of the star coaches didn't play at the top level, and some barely played at all into adulthood.
 
Who were the last 3 players to play a final for Team A against Team B, and for Team B against Team A?
eg. Jason Akermanis: 1999 & 2000 (BL v WB) ; 2009 (WB v BL)

Who were the last 3 players to play a final for Team A against Team C, and for Team B against Team C?
eg. Jason Akermanis played finals against SK, SY and GE, while playing for both BL and WB.

Not an exhaustive list, but it's a start...

Q1

Lance Franklin
2012 GF (Haw vs Syd) ; 2014 GF (Syd vs Haw)

Barry Hall
2008 SF (Syd vs WB) ; 2010 SF (WB vs Syd)
1998 QF (StK vs Syd) ; 2004 SF (Syd vs StK)

Q2

Shaun Burgoyne
Geelong - 2007 GF (PA vs Gee) ; 2011 QF (Haw vs Gee)
West Coast - 2007 QF (PA vs WC) ; 2015 QF (Haw vs WC)
Adelaide - 2005 SF (PA vs Ade) ; 2012 PF (Haw vs Ade)
Sydney - 2003 QF (PA vs Syd) ; 2011 SF (Haw vs Syd)
Collingwood - 2003 PF (PA vs Col) ; 2011 PF (Haw vs Col)

Lance Franklin
Fremantle - 2013 GF (Haw vs Fre) ; 2014 QF (Syd vs Fre)
North Melbourne - 2007 SF (Haw vs Nth) ; 2014 PF (Syd vs Nth)

Sharrod Wellingham
Hawthorn - 2012 QF (Col vs Haw) ; 2015 QF (WC vs Haw)

Nick Dal Santo
Sydney - 2011 EF (StK vs Syd) ; 2014 PF (Nth vs Syd)

Zac Dawson
Geelong - 2010 QF (Stk vs Gee) ; 2012 EF (Fre vs Gee)

Josh Gibson
Sydney - 2008 SF (Nth vs Syd) ; 2014 GF (Haw vs Syd)

Sam Jacobs
Sydney - 2010 EF (Car vs Syd) ; 2012 QF (Ade vs Syd)

Paul Chapman
North Melbourne - 2007 QF (Gee vs Nth) ; 2014 EF (Ess vs Nth)

Danyle Pearce
Geelong - 2007 GF (PA vs Gee) ; 2013 QF (Fre vs Gee)
 
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Six players including Hodge and Ablett debuted before they were 18yo. Which player each year for the past 10 years has been the youngest to debut? I imagine as years go by the youngest will get older and older. Please include age on debut (##y ###d).

2016 - ???
2015 - ???, etc
2006 - Patrick Ryder (Essendon) 18y 18d
2007 - Bryce Gibbs (Carlton) 18y 18d
2008 - Brad Ebert (West Coast) 17y 362d
2009 - Jack Ziebell (North Melbourne) 18y 30d
2010 - Anthony Morabito (Fremantle) 18y 150d
2011 - David Swallow (Gold Coast) 18y 134d
2012 - Stephen Coniglio (GWS) 18y 100d
2013 - Sam Colquhoun (Port Adelaide) 18y 142d
2014 - James Aish (Brisbane) 18y 134d
2015 - Liam Duggan (West Coast) 18y 120d
2016 - Jacob Weitering (Carlton) 18y 122d

You can find the answer to this on AFL Tables by going e.g. here:- http://afltables.com/afl/seas/2007sr.html and here:- http://afltables.com/afl/seas/2016sr.html
I've only done this by looking through the relevant pages so I can't absolutely promise I didn't miss someone. I don't have all the answers sitting in front of me and aren't aware of anywhere they can be found on the one page. It would be handy if you could sort those lists (on AFL Tables) in order of age/name/club.

Edit: There are seven 2016 list players who debuted as 17-year-olds. As well as Hodge and Ablett (and Ebert), there's Brett Deledio, Brendon Goddard, Brent Stanton and Andrew Walker.
 
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So it looks like 18y 120d is about the norm these days. Only a handful of 17yo debutants left in the league.

Nobody is allowed to play when 17 anymore.
Jesse Hogan for example was with Melbourne Football Club when he was 17 thanks to one of the concessions given to one of new clubs but even he had to play that year out in VFL before he was allowed to make his debut once he turned 18 the following season.

I cannot remember when they stopped 17 year olds being drafted but it obviously somewhere in last 7 or 8 years.
 
I'm pretty sure that it was prior to the 2009 National Draft that it was changed, so that players had to be 18 by 31st December in the year that they were drafted.

So the earliest that anyone could debut these days would be about 18 years and 80-90 days.
 
Draft Age The minimum Draft age is 18 years as at December 31.
Looked it up and been that way since 2009 Draft.

The Greater Western Sydney Giants were to join the AFL in 2012, and were provided with several draft concessions, including additional draft selections, early access to recruit 17-year-old players.

Greater Western Sydney was permitted to recruit the following players directly, without the need for any draft:

  • At the end of 2010, up to twelve 17-year-old players (born between 1 January – 30 April 1993), who were too young to enter the 2010 AFL draft. These players were not eligible to play senior AFL football in 2011, and would continue to undergo junior development, either in Sydney or their home state.
2011 Mini-draft
As part of their entry concessions, Greater Western Sydney was allocated up to four selections in a mini-draft, which could be used to recruit seventeen-year-old players who otherwise would not be eligible for the 2011 National Draft, but who could not play senior AFL football until the 2013 season. Greater Western Sydney were not permitted to use these draft picks directly, but had to trade them to other clubs. In 2011, Gold Coast and Adelaide secured trades with GWS for selections in this draft, leaving two selections remaining for the 2012 AFL Draft.


Pick Player Recruited from League Club
1 Jaeger O'Meara Perth WAFL Gold Coast
2 Brad Crouch North Ballarat Rebels TAC Cup Adelaide

2012 Mini-draft
As part of their entry concessions, Greater Western Sydney was allocated up to four selections in a mini-draft, which could be used to recruit seventeen-year-olds who would not otherwise be eligible for that year's national draft. These players could not play senior AFL football until the 2014 season. GWS could not use these draft picks themselves, but could trade them to other clubs prior to either the 2011 or 2012 AFL Drafts. In 2011, Gold Coast and Adelaide negotiated trades with GWS for selections in this draft and selectedJaeger O'Meara and Brad Crouch. The two remaining selections for the 2012 mini-draft were obtained by the Gold Coast (pick No. 1) and Melbourne (pick No. 2). Western Australian youngsters Jack Martin and Jesse Hogan were widely expected to be taken with the two Mini-draft picks.[27]


Pick Player Recruited from League Club
1 Jack Martin Claremont Football Club WAFL Gold Coast
2 Jesse Hogan Claremont Football Club WAFL Melbourne
 
Youngest players on lists right now are the twins Ben and Harry Mckay both born 24th December 1997. Ben at North and Harry at Carlton.
Then Jack Silvagni born 17th December of same year.
If they had been born after December 31st they would not have been eligible for last years draft.

They are all over 18 and a half now.
Jack made his debut about 3 weeks back.
 
Youngest players on lists right now are the twins Ben and Harry Mckay both born 24th December 1997. Ben at North and Harry at Carlton.
Then Jack Silvagni born 17th December of same year.
If they had been born after December 31st they would not have been eligible for last years draft.

They are all over 18 and a half now.
Jack made his debut about 3 weeks back.
Interestingly, Brisbane's Reuben William is said to have a birthdate of 31/12/1997 according to many sources. The Brisbane website still has him with that DOB, as does AFL Tables:- http://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/R/Reuben_William.html , Australian Football and Pro-Stats (also Wikipedia). AFL Record Season 2016 and AFL Record AFL Fantasy - Your Guide to 2016 agree with that.

However, the round 1 Football Record (and a couple from later rounds I've looked at) has 07/10/1997, FootyWire and Draftguru also have October 7, 1997.

I presume that his DOB was corrected a few months ago, and the one now being shown in the Record is correct, but it would be nice to know for sure.
 
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