Steve Harmison
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No not at all, So you are saying that if a bowler struggles in 20/20 games then they are a **** bowler? Ridiculous, leave the Pyjama games out of it.SthnX said:
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Are we talking about the same half tracking pie chucker?
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Harmison doesnt want to play one day cricket.
It shows in his body language, in his pie chuker abilities with the white ball and his overall performances in the one-day arena, eg 30.46? avg per wicket
Thats obvious.
However in the REAL form of the game he is much more destructive and really wants to perform with the red ball.
He will be a threat in the Ashes series mark my words and if you think different then it could be a long test series for the Auissies.
I would expect him to bounce back bigger than ever in this upcoming Ashes series.
It shows in his body language, in his pie chuker abilities with the white ball and his overall performances in the one-day arena, eg 30.46? avg per wicket
Thats obvious.
However in the REAL form of the game he is much more destructive and really wants to perform with the red ball.
He will be a threat in the Ashes series mark my words and if you think different then it could be a long test series for the Auissies.
I would expect him to bounce back bigger than ever in this upcoming Ashes series.
England fan by any chance? It aint half obvious.Big Man said:Harmison doesnt want to play one day cricket.
It shows in his body language, in his pie chuker abilities with the white ball and his overall performances in the one-day arena, eg 30.46? avg per wicket
Thats obvious.
However in the REAL form of the game he is much more destructive and really wants to perform with the red ball.
He will be a threat in the Ashes series mark my words and if you think different then it could be a long test series for the Auissies.
I would expect him to bounce back bigger than ever in this upcoming Ashes series.
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It sticks out like that, because the Australians are so Bias and DeludedJerryWexler said:England fan by any chance? It aint half obvious.
What about? Being the best test and one day side in the world, or that Harmison is a half tracking pie thrower?Browney2006 said:
To whoever said harmison wasnt englands main bowler... take a look
Mat Runs HS BatAv W BB BowlAv 5w Ct
matches won 25 294 36* 16.33 121 7/12 23.26 7 4
matches drawn 10 101 39 11.22 30 4/94 41.60 0 0
matches lost 9 109 42 7.26 24 5/43 41.37 1 2
obviously he plays a large role in england winning test matches
so to those who still thinks he is a great test bowler, his average is in excess of 32 against all teams excluding the bangers and zimbabwe...
Mat Runs HS BatAv W BB BowlAv 5w Ct
matches won 25 294 36* 16.33 121 7/12 23.26 7 4
matches drawn 10 101 39 11.22 30 4/94 41.60 0 0
matches lost 9 109 42 7.26 24 5/43 41.37 1 2
obviously he plays a large role in england winning test matches
so to those who still thinks he is a great test bowler, his average is in excess of 32 against all teams excluding the bangers and zimbabwe...
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A few years ago, yes.SthnX said:
Now, no.
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This is how i rank them.SthnX said:
Jonesy/Freddie (Hard to split them, personally Jonesy nudges him out)
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I was kinda rating them in terms of the five bowlers that we would pick in the side and would be most valuable to the side, with Panesar being there as the spinner. But come to think of it, i think Panesar is probably our fifth best bowler anyways, just from his performances so far, it could all change though as he is still young. But when i was rating the bowlers i was putting them in value to the side as a bowler.philhawk said:
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JerryWexler said:England fan by any chance? It aint half obvious.
Nah mate, Aussie born and Bred.
Stating that Harmison is a good bowler in the 5 day game doesnt make me English.
It means I am not deluded by rubbish that the media and one-eyed supporters spew up.
Australia will find it hard to regain the Ashes if they continue to underestimate the opposition.
We arent getting any younger and I dont see any massive talent coming through despite common belief that we do.
Im not saying we will lose its all over pack it up I am saying concentrate on every minute of the game and we should win.
But only if we concentrate.
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Nope, the Hog does.SthnX said:
Am i correct in saying that Shane warne is 4th or 5th bowler to get a bowl?
Browney2006 said:Nope, the Hog does.
Am i correct in saying that Shane warne is 4th or 5th bowler to get a bowl?
thats different, warne needs an old ball to bowl with... anyways most of the time were not desparate for wickets in the first 20 overs, as the quicks have taken a few...
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Browney2006 said:Am i correct in saying that Shane warne is 4th or 5th bowler to get a bowl?
Yes & no.
Shane Prefers to come on when the ball is older but has had to come on 1st change when the quicks have failed to make an impression.
Great bowlers can bow anywhere, anytime.
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Shane Warne has a terrible record against India in Australia or India, averaging 40+, so this does not make him a great bowler? Its ridiculous to say that bowlers a great when they bowl well everywhere, rarely are you going to see someone dominate EVERYWHEREBig Man said:Yes & no.
Shane Prefers to come on when the ball is older but has had to come on 1st change when the quicks have failed to make an impression.
Great bowlers can bow anywhere, anytime.
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yes but to be a great bowler, u have to bowl well against the best teams in the world... harmison hasnt done that... warne has proven that on his day he can bowl out any team... i dont see how u compare warne, the worlds greatest spinner, struggling against the indians, who grow up playing on spinner friendly wickets, not to mention all the great players that have played for india in the last 10 years... how you can compare this to steve harmison, an over rated tall lanky unco quick that has struggled all of the world for consistancy... you claim him to be a fantastic bowler, but then say hes not englands best... Flintoff is hardly consistent, hoggard in and out of the team, jones continually breaking down...
is your next argument that, giles is a great bowler?
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great for the australians?
HELL YES!
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Browney2006 said:
OK fair call.
I was meaning at any time can he come on and bowl as an answer to your previous post.
Not vs opposition teams.
BUT, in fairness you've pointed out that Warney struggles against perhaps the best batting side vs spin.
That in itself states that even the best bowler in the world has a side he struggles against.
He only has one.
Not bad eh?
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