Cousins is far from in the clear from the drug abuse, didnt you watch the part involving Mainwairing collapsing to his death?
what if Cousins is to collapse and die befoe his 40 due to drug abuse? hardly coming out the other side i would think....
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Cousins is far from in the clear from the drug abuse, didnt you watch the part involving Mainwairing collapsing to his death?
what if Cousins is to collapse and die befoe his 40 due to drug abuse? hardly coming out the other side i would think....
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yea i know it was only part 1 and part 2 is 2moro..i dont have work so will be able to watch part 2 but would like to see part 1 before i watch the second one 2moro
And thats your opinion and thats his opinion.
The fact is some people aren't going to come away from this film with the 'drugs are bad' message.
I think it did glorify elements of drug use I think.
Its not a message made to educate, its a message made to sell advertising. Well thats what I think after part one. I'm not saying Ben hasn't changed but he's still got a foot either side of fence when he talks about his stuff (which is very common and normal).
For those struggling to except that he is remorsefull and that the documentry sends the wrong message, keep in mind , that the only part of the doco which appears to be in recent times , post returning to footy is when he is dressed in the grey suit sitting down . When dressed in the red t-shirt to
me appears post rehab in US but well before his current situation !
Possibly wrongly switches from past to current commentary / interviews , which does reduce the value of the message !
me appears post rehab in US but well before his current situation !
Possibly wrongly switches from past to current commentary / interviews , which does reduce the value of the message !
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When the WC official said "the players didn't want to follow him anymore, they didn't look up to him as much", was I the only one thinking that "the players" meant one player in particular?
This.
Message to all media outlets who mercilessly flogged the line that all families should watch it together to prevent drug abuse ... thanks for nothing.
The only messages I got out of it were that drugs were expensive and hurt your Dad more than you.
The 'drugs are bad' message got lost every time Cousins got a twinkle in his eye and kept referring to his benders as 'good times'.
No you weren't.
Yeah, I think the switching between 'old' Ben and 'new' Ben was confusing at times. I realise they were trying to show him at different stages but jumping back and forth made it hard to follow at times.
You're right...
It took me awhile to get the flow of when was footage was taken, and I think you're right. The hair is what confused me, but if you compare him from the red shirt when he still looks a little off in the face and seems jaded in his demeanour...to the grey suit, he looks so much healthier and optimistic now IMO.
Should of had dates on the footage.
Also have to remember that it was probably filmed as one entire doco, not to be split in two, hoping the second one helps to improve the message.
Does anyone have the exact quote where the ending is something like ".......until you end up in the back of an ambulance."
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Reckon the first episode was a bit of a bore. The 2nd episode will be the good one. The first episode pretty much told us what we already knew.
I reckon the next episode will be good as we will hear from his family and the damge he has cause to their relationship. This will show what the real effect of his drug use had and one of the main reasons he sought help.
The one thing in the first episode i didnt know was that he jumped fences, ran on roof tops to escape the cops. Good effort.
I reckon the next episode will be good as we will hear from his family and the damge he has cause to their relationship. This will show what the real effect of his drug use had and one of the main reasons he sought help.
The one thing in the first episode i didnt know was that he jumped fences, ran on roof tops to escape the cops. Good effort.
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Did people really expect the show or Cousins to send across a message that drugs arn't fun or that they don't make the user feel absolutely magnificent?
The description of being "high" is not an accident.
Drugs make many people feel absolutely fricken fantastic when they are on them. That's why they take them and that's one of the reasons people become addicted to them.
You can't expect Ben to not say that when he was on them he was having the time of his life. You can't just say "drugs are bad" like the South Park counsellor because that message doesn't work. Drugs are often great fun but it's the repercussions that are bad.
The first episode gave a lot of background but only touched on the repercussions and i expect that it is the second episode that puts the focus on that important element more.
IMHO the documentary should never have been split into 2 parts as that part of the message may get lost on some people.
The description of being "high" is not an accident.
Drugs make many people feel absolutely fricken fantastic when they are on them. That's why they take them and that's one of the reasons people become addicted to them.
You can't expect Ben to not say that when he was on them he was having the time of his life. You can't just say "drugs are bad" like the South Park counsellor because that message doesn't work. Drugs are often great fun but it's the repercussions that are bad.
The first episode gave a lot of background but only touched on the repercussions and i expect that it is the second episode that puts the focus on that important element more.
IMHO the documentary should never have been split into 2 parts as that part of the message may get lost on some people.
If they really wanted to get across the real effect of drug use they should have followed some junkie who lost all his money to fuel his addiction and ended up dying alone on the street with needles in his arms. That's a much more likely scenario for most people than what happened to Ben Cousins.
Alternatively, just show The Wire.
Alternatively, just show The Wire.
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I thought it was a bit of media sensationalism when they said he was the best on the ground in his comeback game. Decided to check it out, as I couldn't recall off the top of my head if that was the case.
22 kicks, 16 handpasses, 6 marks, 5 tackles.
As someone who was a bit young and ignorant to appreciate the significance of the events in 2006/07/08, I was a bit shocked to discover that his drug use began at such a young age. My perception of Cousins when he was aged 17 is far different to reality.
22 kicks, 16 handpasses, 6 marks, 5 tackles.
As someone who was a bit young and ignorant to appreciate the significance of the events in 2006/07/08, I was a bit shocked to discover that his drug use began at such a young age. My perception of Cousins when he was aged 17 is far different to reality.
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If he was taking drugs from the age of 17 and during his time at the WCE.
Why isn't he stripped of his awards, B&F's,Brownlows etc? ala Marion Jones @ Sydney 2000
Why isn't he stripped of his awards, B&F's,Brownlows etc? ala Marion Jones @ Sydney 2000
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Because he wasn't taking performance enhancing drugs?If he was taking drugs from the age of 17 and during his time at the WCE.
Why isn't he stripped of his awards, B&F's,Brownlows etc? ala Marion Jones @ Sydney 2000
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But how do they know that?
Wouldn't taking any drugs, change your performance on the field?
I think the inner message from Part 1 is pretty clear to me. The club built him up to be some kind of indestructible person and he started to believe it himself.
His constant drug taking started to impact his thought process so much that he became dependent on the stuff. That clip of him spaced out having face twitches leaning against the wall showed how a indestructible person had become vulnerable and weak.
His constant drug taking started to impact his thought process so much that he became dependent on the stuff. That clip of him spaced out having face twitches leaning against the wall showed how a indestructible person had become vulnerable and weak.
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But how do they know that?
Wouldn't taking any drugs, change your performance on the field?
Yes - it would make you play worse.
Coke, speed, valium, xanax and ecstacy certainly are not performance enhancing and anyone who thinks they are has never taken them before.
You would just be too scattered to think straight especially these days with the amount of knowledge a player has to go into a game with regarding rotations, zones etc.
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Well it isn't really a more likely scenario. There are hundreds of thousands of drug addicts and only a minute percentage end up dying by overdose. Generally about a thousand per year nation wide.
