T Bird signed with Carlton.

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A few rabid Hawks fans are eating crow today ..i bet they wish they had the chance to go back and edit the crap they have been posting on the Blues board all week . good to see Pelchin get well and truly owned in this saga :thumbsu:
 
hodge15 said:
thornton hasnt signed with carlton yet
his manager has said negotiations will start
Signed.. three year deal.. done and dusted.. quick wasnt it??

And to the other Whorethorn supporter... Whorethorn wernt serious about trading picks.. they said they were willing to trade 2 second rounders..and offered that...

Yeah right!!.. how long to go was the Spida made??

so how were we offered 2 second rounders???

You were just stringing him along to enter via the psd... and it didnt work..
 

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No loss for Hawthorn out of this situation at all though.

The real questions remain:

1. Why Carlton didn't convince him to stay well before trade week, if he was thought to be so important to their future?
2. What sort of contract will we be paying him, given what has transpired?
3. Why were Carlton so decisively on the back foot throughout the trading period and before. Why weren't we the team making an aggressive play for a young, out-of-contract player at another club?
 
The Old Dark Navy's said:
The club formed a plan and held their nerve. Nice effort by all. Thornton didn't fall out with his teammates and if the team wins a few more matches next year, all will be forgotten. Players play for each other, not a craggy old coach.

Come on Jordan ... more game time, the group improving together ... you know you want to.

Fantastic result. Welcome back to the fold T-Bird. Nicely done Carlton ... crisis averted for the time being.


You paint a nice rosy picture ODN.
 
btdg said:
No loss for Hawthorn out of this situation at all though.

The real questions remain:

1. Why Carlton didn't convince him to stay well before trade week, if he was thought to be so important to their future?
2. What sort of contract will we be paying him, given what has transpired?
3. Why were Carlton so decisively on the back foot throughout the trading period and before. Why weren't we the team making an aggressive play for a young, out-of-contract player at another club?


Dont worry.. thats all about to get fixed over the next few days...:thumbsu: :)

Better late than never .. but were just about to enter the professional league..

Stay tuned.
 
thornton was pissed off with the original contract offer not that he fact he does not like the guys their. He took the offer as an insult, and then he took pelchins offer for him to cfc an insult.
 
btdg said:
2. What sort of contract will we be paying him, given what has transpired?

I'm happy that he has decided to stay and that we appear to have won a victory over the Hawks. I hope though that we don't have to pay him 1 million over three years now. Hopefully he will accept something like $800- $850 over three years.
 
TheHeatleyStand said:
You were just stringing him along to enter via the psd... and it didnt work..
I got that impression as well while listening to Felcher's comments on SEN after the trade deadline expired. He seemed pretty confident that the hawks would get him in the PSD.
 
Hornet said:
I got that impression as well while listening to Felcher's comments on SEN after the trade deadline expired. He seemed pretty confident that the hawks would get him in the PSD.
You could call Pelchen a tripper..

And his used by date is well and truly up now...

He is abit obvious in a culture thats unforgiving to that kind of thing.

He is better off going and working for the Storm or something...

Where that kind of thing goes on...
 
itsintheblood said:
You paint a nice rosy picture ODN.
The stance is rosy, that's for sure. Some nice work there.

As for the rest, I did say crisis averted for the time being.
 
TheHeatleyStand said:
You could call Pelchen a tripper..

And his used by date is well and truly up now...

He is abit obvious in a culture thats unforgiving to that kind of thing.

He is better off going and working for the Storm or something...

Where that kind of thing goes on...

Pelchen did a good job, got a 2nd rounder for everitt, who's 32. Tried to get Thornton, but Carlton wouldnt wanna listen, not much he could do about that. Wouldnt have mattered who it was carlton would not have dealt on Thornton.
 

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Not sure how Hawthorn is a big loser out of this. 6 weeks ago no one would have dreamed of getting Thornton, so no difference to now. Trade week is full of missed opportunities. Can't imagine anyone crying over their cornflakes this morning.

As for Carlton they have a somewhat disgruntled player who has walked out on the club back in the fold. They will also be paying him much more than they originally hoped. To the poster that said they might be able to offer him less than Hawthorn - get real. You really want to piss him off even further?

So in the best case scenario for next year nothing has changed for both clubs.
 
Simo19 said:
Pelchen did a good job, got a 2nd rounder for everitt, who's 32. Tried to get Thornton, but Carlton wouldnt wanna listen, not much he could do about that. Wouldnt have mattered who it was carlton would not have dealt on Thornton.


But now his time is up....
 
TheHeatleyStand said:
You could call Pelchen a tripper..

And his used by date is well and truly up now...

He is abit obvious in a culture thats unforgiving to that kind of thing.

He is better off going and working for the Storm or something...

Where that kind of thing goes on...

You are just jealous that you dont have the Pelcinator at your club, you guys did nothing during trade week.

You should thank us for Thornten signing up with you guys, because if it want for Hawthron he would have told you guys that he was not happy and wanted a better deal.
 
Robber Baron said:
You are just jealous that you dont have the Pelcinator at your club, you guys did nothing during trade week.

You should thank us for Thornten signing up with you guys, because if it want for Hawthron he would have told you guys that he was not happy and wanted a better deal.

so apart from losing Everett for a pick that we will have around 4 before.. and waiting to lay the T Bird egg you guys did alot????.. and we need a Pelcinator for that????

Uh huh.. ok then...

Just goes to show how much of your own bathwater you drink.,..
 
All the people who are saying that thornton only stayed cause we have pick 1 are kidding themselves (mostly hawks supporters).

If you have any idea you would know that if Thornton really wanted to get to the hawks through the PSD than he would have just made himself unavailable by putting his price out of reach, becuase they still need to agree to contract terms through the PSD. Therefore making himself for the Hawks or any other side.

Truth is that Thornton stayed because we matched their offer and are now going to pay him what he is worth, Thornton obviouslly has the club at heart because he didn't want them to waste their nuimber 1 pick in the PSD on him. So we could get better players.

I think it was a bit of a messy process but the club gets to keep him and he gets the cash he deserves and we keep our PSD number 1 pick.
The hawks lost nothing cause they didn't have anything to lose.
 
TheHeatleyStand said:
so apart from losing Everett for a pick that we will have around 4 before.. and waiting to lay the T Bird egg you guys did alot????.. and we need a Pelcinator for that????

Uh huh.. ok then...

Just goes to show how much of your own bathwater you drink.,..

Well, he is the best in the business and you guys were too scared to trade with him because he wuld of bent you over hes is that good. Anyway, we dont want Thornten anyway and you can have him and we are happy to keep the Pelchinator because he will get us great deals like he did with Spida and Hay next year as well.
 
knackers27 said:
All the people who are saying that thornton only stayed cause we have pick 1 are kidding themselves (mostly hawks supporters).

If you have any idea you would know that if Thornton really wanted to get to the hawks through the PSD than he would have just made himself unavailable by putting his price out of reach, becuase they still need to agree to contract terms through the PSD. Therefore making himself for the Hawks or any other side.

Truth is that Thornton stayed because we matched their offer and are now going to pay him what he is worth, Thornton obviouslly has the club at heart because he didn't want them to waste their nuimber 1 pick in the PSD on him. So we could get better players.

I think it was a bit of a messy process but the club gets to keep him and he gets the cash he deserves and we keep our PSD number 1 pick.
The hawks lost nothing cause they didn't have anything to lose.

You have some good points in there. But if Hawthorn had the No.1 pick in the PSD then do you think he still would have signed with Carlton? because going by what your saying, he would have.
 
Robber Baron said:
Well, he is the best in the business and you guys were too scared to trade with him because he wuld of bent you over hes is that good. Anyway, we dont want Thornten anyway and you can have him and we are happy to keep the Pelchinator because he will get us great deals like he did with Spida and Hay next year as well.
One pick of first pick in the third round isnt that good a deal... its not like he brought home the bacon...
How would he bend us over in a trade????

We wernt scared to deal with him.. we just didnt have to deal with the Bozo..

We didnt...

Next year youll have every club making offers to your players.. and the shoe will be on the other foot.

Thats how it goes...:)
 
btdg said:
No loss for Hawthorn out of this situation at all though.

The real questions remain:

1. Why Carlton didn't convince him to stay well before trade week, if he was thought to be so important to their future?
2. What sort of contract will we be paying him, given what has transpired?
3. Why were Carlton so decisively on the back foot throughout the trading period and before. Why weren't we the team making an aggressive play for a young, out-of-contract player at another club?

Go to kitchen... get egg.. smash on ya face....nah correction already there! There is now a pigeon fanciers board on BF.... you fit the reqmts

Whorethorn ( I like it:D ) .. have again sent a bad message to the trade community that they are not worth the effort of trying to be reasonable.. big tough Pelican came out only just with 90 sec to spare. IDIOT!

You have been told already .. suggestions a plenty.... for the answers to your questions....

It must be hard being a Blues supporter at the moment.... but IIMO you are one they could do without:eek:
 
Corpuscles said:
Whorethorn ( I like it:D ) .. have again sent a bad message to the trade community that they are not worth the effort of trying to be reasonable..

I think pick 33 for spida was reasonable. good for both clubs.
 

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