I have nfi why they would do anything, I'm not sure even they know. But they were peculiar words Inverarity chose and you cannot help but have a cynical response to it.
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I think from this point on the selectors should be banned from speaking to the media, inverarity managed to create doubt over quiney's role and create doubt over hughes and his ability to handle a quality attack at this stage of his development(redevelopment you might say).
Whatever the truth may be it was a real cluster**** of a press conference.
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I agree that the words chosen were very strange, especially coming from an articulate man like Inverarity.
I do believe that out of the options I outline that number 1 is far more likely than number 2.
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Great decision by the selectors IMO, Phil Hughes will prove to be a a vital member of the test team in the next 10 year or so. I mean to have hit 3 test centuries & 20 first-class centuries at the age of 24 suggests he has something special about him.
I think his troubles really started when Flintoff was peppering him in the ashes years ago & his confidence got shot. Any young batsman would've struggled against Flintoff the way he was bowling against hughes in that series, that started a bit of a downfall for him. I'm confident now that he is a bit older & wiser he will be able to withstand these spells of bowling he will no doubt encounter at some stage.
He has a great hunger for runs, a good temperement & hopefully we will see soon a good technique for test cricket. He's the type of batsman that if he gets past 20 you would have faith in him going on with it & getting a big score. Good luck Phil i'm backing you in!
I think his troubles really started when Flintoff was peppering him in the ashes years ago & his confidence got shot. Any young batsman would've struggled against Flintoff the way he was bowling against hughes in that series, that started a bit of a downfall for him. I'm confident now that he is a bit older & wiser he will be able to withstand these spells of bowling he will no doubt encounter at some stage.
He has a great hunger for runs, a good temperement & hopefully we will see soon a good technique for test cricket. He's the type of batsman that if he gets past 20 you would have faith in him going on with it & getting a big score. Good luck Phil i'm backing you in!
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My take: The selectors think Hughes isn't up to it against strong pace attacks (we'll call this 'a') and selected Quiney to be the sacrificial lamb against RSA. They have now selected Hughes to plunder runs against the weaker SL attack but with (a) in mind will dump him prior to the Ashes and bring in another sacrificial lamb in his place prior to re-selecting him for any tests between the 2013 Winter and the 2014/15 Summer against sides with weak pace attacks...
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My take: The selectors are not using the national team as a plaything and they dont use players as 'sacrificial lambs'. Quiney was the obvious choice for the SAf series. He failed twice and Hughes has impressed since Quiney debuted and they genuinely believe Hughes (at 24) is the best man for the number 3 position long term. If he keeps his form up he will be selected for the Ashes. If he doesn't, Khawaja or maybe even Doolan will be considered - depending on the rest of their respective summers.
I'm going to suggest something way out there, I'm going to back the selectors to do the right thing by the national team and Im going to be right behind the men they go with, regardless of the state of birth.
Fair dinkum there are a lot of armchair specialists out there.
I'm going to suggest something way out there, I'm going to back the selectors to do the right thing by the national team and Im going to be right behind the men they go with, regardless of the state of birth.
Fair dinkum there are a lot of armchair specialists out there.
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Yeah probably not the smartest comments from Inverarity, saying they wanted to protect Hughes from the SA bowling attack. I'm sure the England fast bowlers will use that as ammunition against Hughes if he plays in the Ashes series.
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My take: The selectors are not using the national team as a plaything and they dont use players as 'sacrificial lambs'. Quiney was the obvious choice for the SAf series. He failed twice and Hughes has impressed since Quiney debuted and they genuinely believe Hughes (at 24) is the best man for the number 3 position long term. If he keeps his form up he will be selected for the Ashes. If he doesn't, Khawaja or maybe even Doolan will be considered - depending on the rest of their respective summers.
I'm going to suggest something way out there, I'm going to back the selectors to do the right thing by the national team and Im going to be right behind the men they go with, regardless of the state of birth.
Fair dinkum there are a lot of armchair specialists out there.
Well aren't you just a wet blanket.
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How, Siddle, Patto, Starc are bowling similar speeds as last season. Hilfy is bowing meat pies at 130km!
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Well aren't you just a wet blanket.
Yeah I know. Sorry. Carry on!
LukeParkerno1
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Not yet, maybe in 12 months.
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will reserve judgement on Hughes until i see him face Kulasekera.
Bowls a solid, consistent length with away movement and will nibble away at hughes' vulnerable areas.
should be a good test for him
Bowls a solid, consistent length with away movement and will nibble away at hughes' vulnerable areas.
should be a good test for him
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Not really surprised with Hughes getting another chance in the test squad and I think he'll be far better this time around.
I just hope our top order can hold together in this coming series. We cannot afford to have Clarke, Hussey etc having to perform rescue missions to get us to a respectable score.
I just hope our top order can hold together in this coming series. We cannot afford to have Clarke, Hussey etc having to perform rescue missions to get us to a respectable score.
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The reality is, there aren't too many players in or out of the test team that are demanding selection.
If you back to the mid 2000s Hussey & Hodge were outside the test team and were knocking on the door for a long time with strong shield, country & ODI form. I won't go into Hodge for fear of breaking BigFooty but Hussey won a chance as an opener when Langer missed two tests, made a century in his second test then was pushed down to #6 where he made another hundred and the rest is history.
Today the 11 is as unsettled as it's been in a long time. Lyon is the flavour of the month spinner, but given CA's post-Warne efforts he will never be truly safe until he starts averaging 10 with the ball. Wade appears safe for now, but there's always a chance we'll give Paine the shot he deserved until he got injured, of heaven forbid go back to Haddin. The pace bowlers are basically picked based on who isn't in hospital for a given week.
As for the top 6 only Clarke and Hussey are genuinely established, and the latter is no spring chicken. Watson had an extended purple patch after being recalled as an opener but is perennially injured and hasn't done as well at #3. If he's fit he'll be selected because we want his bowling. Warner is hit or miss, Cowan looks solid but needs to start making regular scores. Hughes has been picked and dropped twice already and is now going to be tried in a position other than opener. Beyond that Khawaja has big question marks, Quiney made 9 in 4 innings at test level, Ferguson is out of favour and not making huge runs and Doolan, well I don't even know who that is. We really miss guys like Lehmann, Love etc. regularly making mountains of runs at shield level.
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Maybe they didn't want to risk destroying him completely against South Africa, instead giving him the chance to "ease" himself back into Test Cricket against Sri Lanka.
Who knows with this lot?
But Quiney is looking very much like a stop gap measure to protect Hughes from those big bad South Africans now.
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If Quiney performed he would have kept a spot in the side. He looked out of his depth so is now gone.
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No, I’m just disappointed
sherb
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Maybe the selectors should have protected him, by not playing him against South Africa, as they did with Hughes?
Inverarity has all but admitted they still don't think that Hughes has got the technique to stand up against good fast bowling by the way.
Oh God poor Hughes is going to be the hated man. The comments from JI have ensured it. Even if he racks up a double hundfred in the series it's only going to be because he played Sri Lanka.... Even if you were doing it to publicly say it.
But Quiney is not hard done by, he got his shot on last years form, he wouldnt be picked on anything from this years sheffield shield form.
But Quiney is not hard done by, he got his shot on last years form, he wouldnt be picked on anything from this years sheffield shield form.
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I think Quiney should have been protected from test cricket not just South Africa. Hughes hasn't scored a first class ton this summer until after the 2nd test. He wasn't picked because he hasn't proved he was ready. The 150 at the MCG sealed the deal.
sherb
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Pity Inverarity didn't say that then.
As it stands, it is perfectly reasonable to conclude that Quiney was thrown to the wolves to protect Hughes from quality fast bowling.
sherb
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Here's what Inverarity said again, just to refresh you:
"When we were considering the South African series we were very keen for Phil Hughes to come in when his form was absolutely right, and the right circumstances for him. We did feel that throwing him into the Tests against the world No. 1 with their attack was probably not the ideal set of circumstances for him, and we feel the time now is absolutely right for him."
Now, while he has tried to cover his bases somewhat here, in relation to the comment about form, the bolded is damning.
"When we were considering the South African series we were very keen for Phil Hughes to come in when his form was absolutely right, and the right circumstances for him. We did feel that throwing him into the Tests against the world No. 1 with their attack was probably not the ideal set of circumstances for him, and we feel the time now is absolutely right for him."
Now, while he has tried to cover his bases somewhat here, in relation to the comment about form, the bolded is damning.
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I don't see the point in protecting him. Is he an endangered species or something? I mean come on...
Harmison exposed his technique in the lead up game at Worcester - his back foot kept going to leg - short fast bowling aimed straight at you under that scenario gives you nowhere to go and he was like a rabbit in the headlights. Freddie just finished him off and with Johnson struggling to hit the cut stuff Watson became the makeshift opener to provide more backup. It was a combination of things but his poor technique was pivotal in why he got dropped.
Exactly what happened, if Quiney made runs then pressure goes on the other players, if he doesnt well thats a 30 year old they can throw on the scrap heap
As for Hughes 150 against Victoria sealing the deal, wow, that bowling attack on a flat pitch will definately prepare him for test cricket...Oh thats right they are playing Sri Lanka and then India, Victorias 5th string pace attack probably is better than their 1st
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