Team for the 1st test Australia vs Sri lanka (Hobart)

[Slax]

What a surprise Khawaja throws away another start out for 56, this is why this bloke doesn't deserve to be selected, he simply doesn't covert.

 

[Zach Package]

What a surprise Khawaja throws away another start out for 56, this is why this bloke doesn't deserve to be selected, he simply doesn't covert.

Shane Watson board

 

[The_Reaper]

So is Khawaja now going off to play Big Bash?

 

[Bucking Beads]

Hughes made runs at the Gabba against a pretty fair QLD bowling attack at the start of the summer.

 

[threenewpadlocks]

Hughes made runs at the Gabba against a pretty fair QLD bowling attack at the start of the summer.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/sheffield-shield-2012/engine/match/576085.html

Yes, he did, but that isn't amongst the best two or so bowling lineups seen in the SS this season. I'd take Bird, Butterworth and Faulkner for a test team over McDermott, Feldmen and Cutting any day.

 

[western royboy]

Whatever your thoughts on Hughes and consistent with what I have posted on other threads, this will be his third and FINAL shot at Test Cricket - there is never a fourth.

He has made some technical changes with his foot movement, but you can't expect it to be down pat overnight. There are still a few ugly dismissals nicking to slip. He was ok in County cricket this year but a bloke called Chris Rogers did better. As his coaching guru put it "either he's improved or the domestic bowlers are shit". The answer is it could be a bit of both.

Is he ready? He thinks he is, but up until the cold harsh realities of his technical flaws were explained to him, he didn't think he had a problem then either.

Whatever your thoughts this it - fail and he's finished for all time.

Sri Lanka is hardly going to be a testing environment for him.

 

[Bucking Beads]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/sheffield-shield-2012/engine/match/576085.html

Yes, he did, but that isn't amongst the best two or so bowling lineups seen in the SS this season. I'd take Bird, Butterworth and Faulkner for a test team over McDermott, Feldmen and Cutting any day.

Apples and Oranges really.

 

[i_hate_scams]

Its almost back to the 2010/11 ashes dream team of siddle, Hilf, Johnson. We just need Doug the rug to make it the dream team quartet

 

[Super Hans]

Threw Quiney under the bus to protect Hughes against the SA attack. Pathetic.

Please, how many excuses are people going to make for Quiney? He failed. Move on.

Saw Hughes score a big ton against the Vics, he is the man. Hopefully he makes the most of this and can be in the team for 10+ years. Usman will get his chance when Huss retires.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Quiney was indeed thrown under the bus by being selected in the test side. He should never have been under consideration.

 

[western royboy]

Quiney was indeed thrown under the bus by being selected in the test side. He should never have been under consideration.

Nah can't have that.

Quiney was the Shield player of the Year and made 938 runs @ 50. If you have any faith in our systems and based on his knock against SA in Sydney then he was entitled to his place in the team.

That he failed was a disappointment but I'll give you Graham Gooch, Marvin Attapatu, Ken Rutherford and Martin Crowe as examples of blokes who came back from making a pair at the start and then made a reasonable Test career out of it.

It's easy to be wise after the event but he deserved to be in the frame and selected. His competitors have all had a couple of turnas at it and failed to nail it so they were right to reward a player from the system which has underpinned our success over time.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Nah can't have that.

Quiney was the Shield player of the Year and made 938 runs @ 50. If you have any faith in our systems and based on his knock against SA in Sydney then he was entitled to his place in the team.

One season averaging 50 makes up for the other seasons averaging bugger all?? An average of 37 at first class cricket doesn't scream out test cricketer especially at the age of 30.

That he failed was a disappointment but I'll give you Graham Gooch, Marvin Attapatu, Ken Rutherford and Martin Crowe as examples of blokes who came back from making a pair at the start and then made a reasonable Test career out of it.

Guessing all these blokes who failed early in their careers were in their early 20's instead of 30?

 

[western royboy]

One season averaging 50 makes up for the other seasons averaging bugger all?? An average of 37 at first class cricket doesn't scream out test cricketer especially at the age of 30.

Guessing all these blokes who failed early in their careers were in their early 20's instead of 30?

You are correct 37 doesn't scream out Test Player - but 900+ runs and Shield Player of the year does. In the absence of people who were in form at that point in time, he had the runs on the board. He was worth a shot. Both Khawaja and Hughes must make the most of their next shot at - as they won't get another.

IMO it was the right selection and rewarded Sheffield Shield performance.

 

[CumminsTomicFan]

Why won't Khawaja and Hughes get another shot? They are still young. A couple of great seasons and they are right back in it.

 

[western royboy]

Why won't Khawaja and Hughes get another shot? They are still young. A couple of great seasons and they are right back in it.

History will tell you that you only ever get a maximum of three chops at making it as a Test Cricketer in this country.

If you do not grasp it in three, the theory is you will not make it on the fourth attempt and the selectors will quietly put a pen through the name or note NTBS against it and move on to the next candidate.

 

[Gough]

History will tell you that you only ever get a maximum of three chops at making it as a Test Cricketer in this country.

If you do not grasp it in three, the theory is you will not make it on the fourth attempt and the selectors will quietly put a pen through the name or note NTBS against it and move on to the next candidate.

I'd say that's true of Hughes, he won't be back if he makes a mess of this go, but I wouldn't think Khawaja is in the same boat. He's really only had one shot at Test Cricket and Australian was possibly at it's nadir when he debuted, the circumstances were very difficult.

 

[Kyptastic]

The only guy I can think of who got four goes at Test Cricket was Langer and that was only because he was the only guy available on the Ashes tour when Slater got dropped.

 

[Gough]

The only guy I can think of who got four goes at Test Cricket was Langer and that was only because he was the only guy available on the Ashes tour when Slater got dropped.

Hooksey, Greg Matthews and Ray Bright all got a fair few bites at the cherry.

 

[TassieEagle]

I'd rather play Johnson than Hilfenhaus who has been diabolical this summer!

While admittedly he hasn't had the best start to a summer he has been very economical and taken wickets at a better average than Siddle. Siffas showed what they could do to a bowling attack that can't keep it tight from at least one end.
Tahir = Diabolical
Hilfy (and every other Aus bowler) = disappointing.

I think they would have the 11 worked out already and seeing as Hilfy has been told to miss the Big Bash opener it indicates to me that he is in the XI.

 

[western royboy]

Hooksey, Greg Matthews and Ray Bright all got a fair few bites at the cherry.

Hookes & Matthews only got three, Spotty was slightly different as he was a specific needs player. I'd argue that Langer only got three as well.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Hookes & Matthews only got three, Spotty was slightly different as he was a specific needs player. I'd argue that Langer only got three as well.

There isn't a magical number of how many chances a player gets at Test level. What a ridiculous notion.

Hughes is still very young; 24. So you're saying if he fails against Sri Lanka then he'll get a line through his name?

 

[aussie1st]

Here is hoping Hughes has sorted his problems out, he is the best of the youngsters at converting that 50 into 100s.

 

[western royboy]

There isn't a magical number of how many chances a player gets at Test level. What a ridiculous notion.

Hughes is still very young; 24. So you're saying if he fails against Sri Lanka then he'll get a line through his name?

Check the history books

 

[Bucking Beads]

I think I read that Clarke will be deciding the batting order over the coming days. I'd like to see him move to 4 and Watson to 5 with Hughes at 3.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

While admittedly he hasn't had the best start to a summer he has been very economical and taken wickets at a better average than Siddle. Siffas showed what they could do to a bowling attack that can't keep it tight from at least one end.
Tahir = Diabolical
Hilfy (and every other Aus bowler) = disappointing.

I think they would have the 11 worked out already and seeing as Hilfy has been told to miss the Big Bash opener it indicates to me that he is in the XI.

He is bowling Round Arm Pies! He is not anywhere as threatening as last year..lets not mention he was bowling 140kmph last year and he is bowling 10km slower this year. If he is in the XI I will be disappointed.