Star Wars The Acolyte

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Seriously? It’s a joke!

Yeah a crap one

 

[SavDog23]

For me, the perfect way to describe this show would be lame with a whole lot of dogshit writing.

Probably won't continue with this show.

 

[Kellythatsit]

This episode lost me a little bit.
Not for any of the carry on that the perpetual haters go on about. It just doesn't feel like Star Wars to me. I'm not very invested so far, just mildly interested in seeing where it goes.

I stand by my original assessment that the acting isn't very good.
I don't hate it and I couldn't give a shit about stupid little things like fires in space. It's sci-fi/fantasy, not science fact. If we can believe in plasma swords, laser guns, light speed travel and space wizards with mind control and telekinesis, then a fire in space isn't a stretch.

Not sure I'll end up seeing this one through to the end, but will hang on a bit longer.

Yeah. The first couple of episodes were great. This episode though was pretty meh. I‘ve never found the witches interesting and this episode in particular really didn’t feel at all like Star Wars. I was basically waiting all episode for something cool to happen. When it did, it really wasn’t that interesting either.

Still, hopefully that was all the set-up and the payoff will come in the next few episodes.

 

[GreyCrow]

This episode was more filler with a few teases

I dont think its winning any Emmys but I do think it IS important to the SW universe - whether that be a link to something further on or a beginning of something

Spoiler

ie the coven in Ahsoka

 

[Pablito]

6/10

It was a better episode for me.

I like the ideas they explored.
I liked the more well rounded characters including the girls mother (with dreads) who is probably the best actor on the show with the guy who plays Sol.
It was also a better technically made episode because you know, they actually hired a director with talent (Kogonda) as opposed to the showrunner directing the first two episodes.

They're obviously setting it up for a "The Last Duel" situation where we eventually see a different pov of what happened at the end. Which I don't mind at all.

The negatives, most of the dialogue outside the aforementioned characters was trash.
The show looks fairly low budget still.
The night time dance sequence was laughably bad.
And yeh I was a touch bored.

 

[Kellythatsit]

6/10

It was a better episode for me.

I like the ideas they explored.
I liked the more well rounded characters including the girls mother (with dreads) who is probably the best actor on the show with the guy who plays Sol.
It was also a better technically made episode because you know, they actually hired a director with talent (Kogonda) as opposed to the showrunner directing the first two episodes.

They're obviously setting it up for a "The Last Duel" situation where we eventually see a different pov of what happened at the end. Which I don't mind at all.

The negatives, most of the dialogue outside the aforementioned characters was trash.
The show looks fairly low budget still.
The night time dance sequence was laughably bad.
And yeh I was a touch bored.

Seeing what happened from a different POV is definitely on the cards. There was some weird skips happening in the final moments that seem like there’s more info to be added.

 

[Ry009]

Spoiler

the immaculate conception reference. “There was no father”. Seemed to cause a similar reaction to the Jedi hearing that as it did Qui Gonn in TPM. Hence I was just speculating, did they think similar in regards to that prophecy.

Having said that though, the prophecy was about bringing balance to the force. At this point in the timeline, it’s presumed the Sith are not even around or active. So it raises the question about what balance is there to bring?

Another theory I have altogether. Perhaps Darth Plaguis learned this whole thing about “manipulating the midichlorians to create life” from the witches themselves.

Spoiler

I think the point of the show is to explore other ideas outside of the view of the Jedi. That being said, it felt very much like it was inferring that what they did with the sisters is what lays the foundation for now Anakin is born.

Spoiler: Speculation but I'll spoiler tag it, as well as general thoughts

I mean surely this is the whole point. You're supposed to watch that and go "but why does Torbin carry all that guilt? Is there more to the story than what we've seen?"

I feel like I can almost guarantee this is building to a reveal that it's actually the Jedi that killed most of the coven. There's no way that the little paper fire alone caused all that damage.

Spoiler

My tip is that the Jedi didn't 100% know Mae was alive or not and essentially left her for dead.

Either way I'm not a big fan as it's echoing one of the least fleshed out and worst plot points of the entire franchise with Luke "feeling" like he should have killed Kylo.

This episode was more filler with a few teases

I dont think its winning any Emmys but I do think it IS important to the SW universe - whether that be a link to something further on or a beginning of something

Spoiler

ie the coven in Ahsoka

Spoiler

They've said they're not the Nightsisters although they did inspire the idea for them. Which I don't agree with. Then to have one of the mothers look similar to the male species of Dathomir was odd as well.

Overall feels like this is going the way of Ashoka. Really promising concepts and ideas to play with. A couple of ok episodes to start, then nosediving to some poor writing and excessive padding.

I don't think the acting is bad, I think they're doing their best with some progressively worse dialogue.

All these multi show/film universe franchises like DCEU and current MCU all seem to be facing the same problems that they're being pushed out quicker that they should with no-one properly overseeing everything so there is some level of cohesion of what came before it.

 

[glenferry23]

Spoiler

I think the point of the show is to explore other ideas outside of the view of the Jedi. That being said, it felt very much like it was inferring that what they did with the sisters is what lays the foundation for now Anakin is born.

Spoiler

My tip is that the Jedi didn't 100% know Mae was alive or not and essentially left her for dead.

Either way I'm not a big fan as it's echoing one of the least fleshed out and worst plot points of the entire franchise with Luke "feeling" like he should have killed Kylo.

Spoiler

They've said they're not the Nightsisters although they did inspire the idea for them. Which I don't agree with. Then to have one of the mothers look similar to the male species of Dathomir was odd as well.

Overall feels like this is going the way of Ashoka. Really promising concepts and ideas to play with. A couple of ok episodes to start, then nosediving to some poor writing and excessive padding.

I don't think the acting is bad, I think they're doing their best with some progressively worse dialogue.

All these multi show/film universe franchises like DCEU and current MCU all seem to be facing the same problems that they're being pushed out quicker that they should with no-one properly overseeing everything so there is some level of cohesion of what came before it.

Yes some the concepts introduced here are very intriguing. I like that there are other interpretations of the force. It leans into the Palpatine Opera scene from ROTS (remains the best scene of the prequels for me). Where he describes the Jedi as having a narrow and dogmatic view of the force. I’m hoping this leads to The Sith learning about that manipulation from the witches.

There was a brief comments in the opening scene from Master Trinity where she said “we have an unregistered force user”. That was fascinating. They have some kind of forced registration or something to keep track of? Reality is though my expectations are quite low in the Disney era on them actually delving deeper into some of these concepts and fleshing that stuff out to an adequate depth.

 

[BlakeyNoFlakey]

This episode was supposed to ruin SWs, and while I don't think it did, it was pretty terrible. I can't be effed going into all the reasons why I thought this episode sucked, but it marks this show as fast becoming the worst SW TV show ever made. This crap makes TBOBF look genius.

 

[Jatz]

This episode lost me a little bit.
Not for any of the carry on that the perpetual haters go on about. It just doesn't feel like Star Wars to me. I'm not very invested so far, just mildly interested in seeing where it goes.

I stand by my original assessment that the acting isn't very good.
I don't hate it and I couldn't give a shit about stupid little things like fires in space. It's sci-fi/fantasy, not science fact. If we can believe in plasma swords, laser guns, light speed travel and space wizards with mind control and telekinesis, then a fire in space isn't a stretch.

Not sure I'll end up seeing this one through to the end, but will hang on a bit longer.

This is exactly how I feel about it.

The nitpicking criticism is stupid. Like you though, I think it's poorly acted and doesn't particularly feel like SW.

I'll probably see it through but it's nowhere near as engaging as I'd hoped it would be.

 

[Jatz]

Saw someone on twitter say it felt like the script was written by AI, rather than storywriters.

Can't say I'd noticed that per se, did it give that impression to anyone else?

 

[skam85]

Ah fair enough. You got me.

Poor bloke lost a fair bit of hair, maybe stressed himself out a lot in those 6 years

Anakin was Obi Wan's Padawan in Ep II and was sitting on the council as Master-lite in Ep III. With an apprentice in between. It's hardly a stretch

 

[skam85]

I didn't mind it tbh. I think it's cool that there's now a show which is (mostly) not tied to anything previously Star Wars. Just hope it sticks the landing because it has just been 'ok' so far. But Andor also started a tad slow and that's widely regarded as the best of the new stuff.

 

[Brick Loosener]

Saw someone on twitter say it felt like the script was written by AI, rather than storywriters.

Can't say I'd noticed that per se, did it give that impression to anyone else?

!0 writers for 8 episodes. Andor had 4 for 12 episodes for a comparison.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Anakin was Obi Wan's Padawan in Ep II and was sitting on the council as Master-lite in Ep III. With an apprentice in between. It's hardly a stretch

Anakin was the Chosen One.

 

[ibd77]

Saw someone on twitter say it felt like the script was written by AI, rather than storywriters.

Can't say I'd noticed that per se, did it give that impression to anyone else?

Technology wise, we are pretty much there to generate TV shows & movies 100% from AI. No actors, no production team, no filming. Just input your theme or genre and bang instant content. All you need is a concept and a rough story line to make your own content from home.

 

[Cyber_punk]

I honestly think this is a defeatist attitude and frankly just wrong. The Force Awakens was a soft reboot of A New Hope and was effectively the same story (i.e a simple heroes journey) and it was something like 3rd all time on box office when it was released. Just checking, even with Avatar 2 and End Game now surpassing it, it's still 5th all time.

Of course, TFA did well at the box office. It was the first live action Star Wars we'd had in a decade and people were curious to see Disney's spin on it, and people were not burned out from being spammed with SW content every year. Jurassic World killed it too because people had had a chance to miss the franchise with the previous movie being 14 years prior.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Of course, TFA did well at the box office. It was the first live action Star Wars we'd had in a decade and people were curious to see Disney's spin on it, and people were not burned out from being spammed with SW content every year. Jurassic World killed it too because people had had a chance to miss the franchise with the previous movie being 14 years prior.

You don't make a billion dollars from curious people. You make billion if people see the film more than once and it is actually enjoyable. I think I saw it 4 times, including once in Bali. People enjoyed it and while it had a lot of confusing questions, it was the first film in a trilogy that would (you expected at the time) resolve those questions in a logical and intriguing way.

Then The Last Jedi came out and ****ed everything. I didn't rewatch TLJ in cinemas. I did go and see TROS once, and had some small satisfaction from how it tried to wind back all the errors of the TLJ but then that film fell into its own Death Star trash compactor of garbage and I never revisted that film either. The worst part about TLJ and TROS were that they ruined TFA as well. Now knowing that there is no good explanation for Luke's absence, why Han is a scoundrel again, why the First Order exist, who Maz Kanata or Snoke are makes that film so much worse looking back. The Sequel films are basically dead because of it.

 

[Cyber_punk]

You don't make a billion dollars from curious people. You make billion if people see the film more than once and it is actually enjoyable. I think I saw it 4 times, including once in Bali. People enjoyed it and while it had a lot of confusing questions, it was the first film in a trilogy that would (you expected at the time) resolve those questions in a logical and intriguing way.

Then The Last Jedi came out and ****ed everything. I didn't rewatch TLJ in cinemas. I did go and see TROS once, and had some small satisfaction from how it tried to wind back all the errors of the TLJ but then that film fell into its own Death Star trash compactor of garbage and I never revisted that film either. The worst part about TLJ and TROS were that they ruined TFA as well. Now knowing that there is no good explanation for Luke's absence, why Han is a scoundrel again, why the First Order exist, who Maz Kanata or Snoke are makes that film so much worse looking back. The Sequel films are basically dead because of it.

I still think the 'abscence makes the heart fonder' factor played in. I didn't really care for The Force Awakens tbh. It's the least objectionable of the main 3 sequels I suppose, but that's not saying much.

Rogue one was alright and better

But then ROTJ happened and Leia flying through space really signalled the death knell for SW for me.

 

[SM]

I still think the 'abscence makes the heart fonder' factor played in. I didn't really care for The Force Awakens tbh. It's the least objectionable of the 3 I suppose, but that's not saying much.

Leia flying though space really signalled the death knell for SW for me.

There was also the huge wave of "it's so much better than the prequels" that had older fans coming back. The notion that a paint by numbers star wars movie would be an automatic success these days is laughable.

 

[Cyber_punk]

There was also the huge wave of "it's so much better than the prequels" that had older fans coming back. The notion that a paint by numbers star wars movie would be an automatic success these days is laughable.

Prequels have them covered imo.

Still a fair bit wrong with them, don't get me wrong (way too much cgi, often corny dialogue, jar jar) but the world building and expanse of characters and planets, with a story that knew where it was going, made them somewhat enjoyable. Even the sub par Attack of the Clones has some fun stuff. They have a certain charm to them still.

Disney have never nailed that Star Wars 'magic and mystery' for me, as Liam Neeson once put it.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

There was also the huge wave of "it's so much better than the prequels" that had older fans coming back. The notion that a paint by numbers star wars movie would be an automatic success these days is laughable.

As opposed to the astounding success they are having currently...

 

[SM]

As opposed to the astounding success they are having currently...

Yeah it's almost like there's no pleasing some people, something I expressed above.

 

[glenferry23]

The Force Awakens really did catch lighting in a bottle. I remember an early picture released prior to filming of a round table read of the entire cast, including Hamill, Ford and Fisher, and losing my shit over it.

That they did not even have one scene together however, criminal stuff.

 

[Launchpad McQuack]

Anakin was Obi Wan's Padawan in Ep II and was sitting on the council as Master-lite in Ep III. With an apprentice in between. It's hardly a stretch