Mega Thread The Adam Goodes Megathread - Now with Added Poll!

[DanWA]

Your sir are a flog

Of no where near the level of Goodes and all the sheep following what is fed to them by the AFL, Media and Sydney supporters.

 

[DanWA]

I can foresee an amazing sweeping seachange leading to moral, intellectual and political enlightenment in Australia lead by ...wait what ...Warney?

Next you will believe James Hird is hard done by.

 

[Moo]

Yeah I've gone back and edited my post. Australia Day doesn't really hold my interest so I've never bothered to look into it and just went off what others were saying, my bad.

I've left just the pertinent parts.

Good on you for that.

 

[peppy la pew]

Can we just talk about some of the ******* bombs dropped by Joanne, the mother of the girl who called him an ape please

Heres a few gems

“She’d only turned 13 five days beforehand. She was technically still 12" - Actually, Joanne, I think you'll find in every sense of the word technically, your daughter was 13 at the time.

"...and having her questioned by police without an adult being present was absolutely disgusting on the part of himself and the AFL,” - God dammit Adam, you know its your responsibility to oversee police interrogations

Shes a real gem this one

Classy, getting stuck into the mother of the child on a public forum

But cry like a little bitch when someone dares to Boo Goodes at a game of footy.

 

[sherb]

Never been a problem till Goodes arrived on the scene and later in his career to

Remember, "the game" is actually much more than the AFL competition.

Racism for instance is an issue that undoubtedly exists in senior football at varying levels.

 

[DanWA]

Classy, getting stuck into the mother of the child on a public forum

But cry like a little bitch when someone dares to Boo Goodes at a game of footy.

The sad thing is, most of the people that have swallowed the AFL/Media drivel think that way.

 

[Ruck Machine]

**** me. I don't even.........

Just a theory. Prove me wrong.

 

[ant22]

One thing that has become really obvious is that many who have criticised goodes for apparently causing division with his Australia Day speech have never actually read or listened to his Australia Day speech. What was it hamish said about sheep?

 

[Maddhew]

At this stage, people are either willfully ignoring evidence that goes against their position

There is so much of this going on, why are they wilfully ignoring it is the interesting question.

 

[Some Idiot]

Of no where near the level of Goodes and all the sheep following what is fed to them by the AFL, Media and Sydney supporters.

So you think there no racist element at all in the booing?
No one boos Adam because he's vocal and opinionated about human rights issues?

 

[Moo]

Of near where near the level of Goodes and all the sheep following what is fed to them by the AFL, Media and Sydney supporters.

It's OK to agree with them they're right.

Don't worry there is still COLA, Eddie and shitty umpiring to nail them on.

 

[Mr Magic]

The further this thread goes the more it seems people aren't booing Goodes because they're racist - they're booing him because they've never actually researched into the reasons they believe make it reasonable to boo him. How many times does that AOTY speech need to be posted? How many times do his COMPLETE comments re: the "ape" girl need to be posted? At this stage, people are either willfully ignoring evidence that goes against their position or they're not willing to engage in the research and are just gobbing off based on headlines and word-of-mouth info.

The "We boo because he's dirty/a diver" arguments have been roundly shot down as nonsense, as SJ, Lewis and Thomas don't receive the same treatment.

The "He bullied a 13-year old girl" claims hold no water when you read his actual quotes and consider what actually happened.

The "He used the AOTY pulpit to attack Invasion Day!" reasoning has been shown time and again as an utter falsehood.

What's left? "I boo because it gets under his skin?" Good for you, you're a primary school sandpit bully. "I boo because the AFL can't tell me what to do!" Cool, you're obstreperous to the point where you're happy to boo a man when you know he, his team-mates, many players around the league and many fans find it distasteful. Congratulations, you are incapable of restraint!

The other main thing is the aggressive running war dance to the crowd by Goodes and Jetta.

I would not underplay this catalyst!

I think the disrespect and potential slander directed to the crowd by the media and some connected with the AFL hierarchy did not help!

Some of the crowd group feel disrespected in a big way probably.


For example RL players showing support to Goodes by doing a War dance in is not relevant of its own. If they did it to opposition supporters it would be relevant but I doubt they would take a liking to that.

You see the war dance for some is a bit like Goodes being judge and jury accusing all the section of the crowd without a judge and jury and with an execution on the end.

Some others in the media and AFL sidelines have also performed arguably an execution by labelling them racist without consultation. This is from a background of negligence as well.

I think a lot have had a gutful and that comes from deteriorating fan relations from when Vlad began and maybe even before. This is just a sharp acute catalyst IMO.

 

[Inspector Malceski]

Shane Warne against the AFL/Media campaign to, Slowly more will stop believing what is fed to them via the AFL and the media. Boo-ing has nothing to do with racism.

A bogan like Shane Warne feelings on the issue is clouded by his Botox leaking to his brain.

 

[DanWA]

So you think there no racist element at all in the booing?
No one boos Adam because he's vocal and opinionated about human rights issues?

Yes, there is no racist element to the boo-ing. How much do the other indigenous get boo'd? Do they carry on like this fake Australian of the Year?

 

[astrovic]

I've got no problem with that Adam said. But I am amazed that he or his script writer were so ignorant to think that saying this "very much the feeling of invasion day" wouldn't cause a negative reaction.

I'm sorry, are you saying it's his fault that people wilfully cherry pick his statements to deliberately claim he said precisely the opposite of what he actually said? A la how Andrew Bolt put it today - Goodes is different and not just because he then made things worse by waving an imaginary spear at white spectators or peddling a vicious version of our history as Australian of the Year

Where the holy hell does Bolt get that from? It is a complete fiction. And why does this thread contain poster after poster endlessly repeating the same lies? Do they just buy whatever they are told without ever bothering to check the source information?

And this is Goodes' fault??? Methinks he could have used the most obsequious, conciliatory and kow towing language possible and still there would be arsewipes with an agenda like Bolt picking and choosing his words to make out he said something completely different.

 

[bigfarter]

The other main thing is the aggressive running war dance to the crowd by Goodes and Jetta.

I would not underplay this catalyst!

If you felt legitimately threatened or upset by that then I don't know what to tell you. Also, he was booed mercilessly by Hawthorn fans the week before that happened, so your timeline is wrong.

 

[Foggle]

 

[momentbymoment]

The other main thing is the aggressive running war dance to the crowd by Goodes and Jetta.

I would not underplay this catalyst!

I love this thread. Grown men quivering like children.

 

[DanWA]

I love this thread. Grown men quivering like children.

Or grown men having a cry over a boo?

 

[DanWA]

You're either saying 'let's play sad music' or it's a musical intro to 'Never Tear Us Apart'.

Not sure which side you are on?

Either way that violin is way too big for what is appropriate to people who complain about boo-ing

 

[Woodie99]

Of no where near the level of Goodes and all the sheep following what is fed to them by the AFL, Media and Sydney supporters.

Sorry I don't get your point.

But to say that Goodes is responsible for the latest media frenzy is totally wrong & to say that he has brought the game into disrepute is laughable ( which is what I was commenting on).

 

[Seadog]

Sorry I wasn't aware of the full context of your post and I retract that accusation.

Just something to be mindful of though - don't use 'they' when referring to an indigenous person or people. It may just be the last thing you ever say haha

No probs, my attempt at satire was probably a bit obtuse. I've got a few aboriginal friends, managed to survive so far. Never thought of "they", as demeaning. Surely it's what comes after they that counts.

 

[Ice-Wolf]

The other main thing is the aggressive running war dance to the crowd by Goodes and Jetta.

I would not underplay this catalyst!

Yeah that's my problem with Goodes, other than the going in feet/knee first and the cheap shots and never seeming to get punished for it.

I don't have a problem with the War Dance itself in fact if had been done before the start of play directed at the opposing team it would have been a fantastic display and very fitting for the occasion and something that could have been used to educate and bring people together, but to do it towards the opposition fans after kicking a goal was the wrong way to go about it and only served to be divisive, that the AFL OK'd it all after the fact didn't help matters.

 

[NSWCROW]

So why are you still going with it?

Oh apologies i thought you meant my other post.

No this one i was responding to someone who said LEFTY


Sauce for the goose etc etc


That ok with you jack ?

 

[NewMelbournian]

They are the minority. The booers. Can we ignore them? I can.

When it comes to mental health issues it is not as easy as that. We can speak hypothetically but we can't put ourselves in the shoes of the person at the middle of all this. He isn't able to ignore it, he isn't able to go to work with this issue ongoing. And so I think we can't ignore it.

And yes there always is the "it will go away if we stop talking about it" view but this isn't new. For many months people tried not speaking about it and it didn't stop.

Never been a problem till Goodes arrived on the scene and later in his career to

Ever heard of Michael Long? Nicky Winmar?