Mega Thread The Adam Goodes Megathread - Now with Added Poll!

[mick500]

Its offensive that if i boo a aboriginal player i am considered a racist by some people and some people in the media and indeed some people high up in the afl. If i were a racist i would make racist comments about goodes, but no i am a footy fan and i choose to boo him, not because of his race but because i think he is a douchebag.

I also boo selwood, stevie j, watson, hird, franklin, hodge, mitchell (one of my favourite players, but not when he plays us) pav, monfrees, ryder, lecras, robbie gray, riewoldts, dustin martin, thats all i can think of off the top of my head lol, but you get the point.. a lot of those are just good players who you dont want to play well against your club, some of them are duckers and others i just think are w***ers on and off the field.

If i want to boo i will boo. If they ban booing i will stop going to games. Hell i might even stop watching, they have already banned tackling, what am i really missing out on?

 

[Footy Is The Win]

If the booing is supposedly because he is a dirty player/diver then why weren't/aren't the likes of Judd, Mitchell, Stevie J, Fletcher etc relentlessly booed by the vast majority of the crowd each time they go near the ball, no matter the opposition? And why did it only start after he pointed out a racist in the crowd? People have rocks in their heads if they genuinely believe there isn't a massive racial element here. There are far bigger campaigners in the AFL who don't get anywhere near as much hostility directed at them by the crowds, not hard to figure out why.

Because they didn't cry about it.

 

[Kummerspeck]

If others think that by booing that they are agreeing with a racist attitude then they should think again.

Here's an idea: How about the people taking part in the same action as the people who are abusing Goodes with racist undertones thing again.

 

[DieSwans]

People do forget the WCE supporters have a long history with Goodes too that dates back 10 years.
Some of us don't forget we were robbed.

I also hate Micky OLoughlin.

And Leo Barry.
Kennelly (More racism I guess)
Barry Hall.
Jude.
And that idiot Kirk.

 

[Goosecat]

The AFL pushed the boundaries with Goodes's first effort. The failure to address the Jetta follow up is wrong. He himself has stated it was a reaction to the crowd. A threatening response with a very white mans "F**k You" on the end.

The precedent of acceptance is now set. What happens now when the first player of Maori descent starts chucking imaginary objects at the crowd, or the first Serb who's culture has gone through genocide starts throwing gestures at the crowd. What about when Nic Nat does his first Fijian War dance? I can just see players being allowed to run at and threaten to throw objects at crowds followed by an FU in all sports, it's so obvious, hell it should be encouraged.
Aboriginal culture is not the first and certainly not the only culture to feel the need to demonstrate with displays of WAR.

All such demonstrations from any player of any descent must now be allowed. Anything less would be discriminately racist.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Think he was fined

I've googled it and nothing came up at all.

 

[pazza]

People do forget the WCE supporters have a long history with Goodes too that dates back 10 years.
Some of us don't forget we were robbed.

I also hate Micky OLoughlin.

And Leo Barry.
Kennelly (More racism I guess)
Barry Hall.
Jude.
And that idiot Kirk.

Robbed really?

Please you lot need to get over it...a bit like Pies fans and Wayne Harmes in 1979!

 

[hardon]

So...you're saying those things were right?

nope. i'm saying, that at the time, these things seemed right or proper. now they seem wrong or improper. some society's morals/ethics are evolving in this direction.

as a hypothetical - in the future, when we figure out a way to communicate meaningfully with animals, and a satisfactory artificial meat-substitute can be manufactured, future humans may well be shocked that i killed and ate other sentient life forms.

 

[Engimal]

Its offensive that if i boo a aboriginal player i am considered a racist by some people and some people in the media and indeed some people high up in the afl. If i were a racist i would make racist comments about goodes, but no i am a footy fan and i choose to boo him, not because of his race but because i think he is a douchebag.

I also boo selwood, stevie j, watson, hird, franklin, hodge, mitchell (one of my favourite players, but not when he plays us) pav, monfrees, ryder, lecras, robbie gray, riewoldts, dustin martin, thats all i can think of off the top of my head lol, but you get the point.. a lot of those are just good players who you dont want to play well against your club, some of them are duckers and others i just think are ******s on and off the field.

If i want to boo i will boo. If they ban booing i will stop going to games. Hell i might even stop watching, they have already banned tackling, what am i really missing out on?

Oh no, don't be confused. You can boo Aboriginal players, just not Goodes. Nobody will bat an eyelid if you boo Lindsay Thomas, but boo Goodes and watch them come out of the woodworks!

 

[Mead]

I've always thought that once the crowd have paid their money for a ticket they can cheer or boo as they see fit.

Most of the time the booing from AFL crowds is pantomime with no real spite or venom in it. Sometimes it's directed at certain opposition players who have a bit of a history against your team, I for one booed Chris Judd after he won a Brownlow for elbowing Pavlich in the face.
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Agree with that, and its why the AFL are complete fools. They can talk about the brand, the product, the spectacle, indigenous round, multicultural round, organic quinoa round and the soon to be announced dudes-who-used-to-be-chicks-but-are-now-pretty-sure-they-want-to-be-dudes-but-still-don't-know how-to-pronounce-quinoa-round, but really, the only thing fans care about football has always been the team you like, the team you hate, and a cast of pantomime heroes and villains.

As posted elsewere, the AFL, the AFLPA and fwiw West coast are totally out of order here. They don't get to tell fans how to think.

There are common sense lines which you obviously arent allowed to cross at the football. Booing someone because they're black would clearly cross that line, but for the vast majority it isn't about that. Booing someone because you don't like them as a player or a person has been part of the game since day dot- complaining about that makes as much sense as complaining that crowds applaud the players they do like.

The fans, precisely because they care enough to go to a game and carry on like pork chops for hours on end, are the only reason any AFL player, Goodes included, are living in bondi apartments rather than delivering mail or working in the supermarket deli to afford to play football. NIsbett, Mclachlan, and the self entitled twats in the AFLPA would do well to remember that it is those ferals in the outer who pay for their boardroom lunches.

Those ferals have a low threshold for bullshit, and they know that Goodes, despite being set up by the AFL as its patron saint of all things indigenous has always come across as a prima donna who plays for free kicks, moans when things don't go his way , seems to get special treatment from the umps the way a lot of gun players do, and calls anyone who criticises him a racist. Goodes might have stayed one of the common or garden opposition players who people tend to bag, but then they were told that unlike the other half a dozen players around the league who cop treatment to varying degrees, Goodes *was* special, and if they booed him rather than, say, ballantyne, it was because they were racist.

So understandably they resent that and boo him more. And he carries on more, the AFL screams racist more, and... can anyone guess what the result will be?

If Goodes had a modicum of class, sense or media savvy he'd come out and say he knows the vast majority of fans who boo him are fair minded, decent people, he's quite happy to be booed because it usually means he's playing well, and someone who pays their $30, (or as the case may be $40 or $65) for a ticket can do whatever they damn well please and he'll do his best to stick it right up them next time he's at subi- thanks to the complex way football fans think he'd probably get a standing ovation next time he played here.

As it is, I hope we get Sydney in a final, I hope the crowd gets absolutely stuck into him, because it's pretty obvious that if they do, he and Jetta totally lose their shit- and probably the game.

 

[WA ROO]

nope. just googled him. way before my time. was he booed incessantly?

Nope
Probably the most respected umpire ever

 

[ashep]

"He's just too outspoken, it's not about race. We don't want politics in our footy."

Did you boo Neil Daniher for raising awareness for MND?

Did you boo Shane Crawford for riding across the country for breast cancer?

Did you boo Nick Riewolt for organising Maddie's Match?

Did you boo Mark Thompson for speaking up about mental illness?

 

[Cleric]

Me thinks we will look back on this in 20 years or so, and be disgusted that we (the AFL community) turned a blind eye to the treatment of Goodes.

Yeah, just like we hang our heads in shame that we used to chant "Hadleys a wanka" at the cricket..
Oh look, a white flog getting paid out by the crowd. I though only racists did that.

 

[DieSwans]

Robbed really?

Please you lot need to get over it...a bit like Pies fans and Wayne Harmes in 1979!

By robbed I mean we were far and away the best team that season but didn't turn up til the last quarter to play.
Our fault but in the scheme of things, it was a robbery.

Cheers

 

[JohnnyFontane90]

Nope
Probably the most respected umpire ever

well i think that debunks the whole race theory

 

[Cleric]

"He's just too outspoken, it's not about race"

Did you boo Neil Daniher for raising awareness for MND?

Did you boo Shane Crawford for riding across the country for breast cancer?

Did you boo Nick Riewolt for organising Maddie's Match?

Did you boo Mark Thompson for speaking up about mental illness?

Worst post ever on BF.

 

[BORK]

On one side you have the entire AFL community and (one would presume) the entire Indigenous population of Australia.
On the other you have Neil Mitchell and Andrew Bolt.

Which side you think is the right one?

Is that a pun?

 

[mick500]

"He's just too outspoken, it's not about race"

Did you boo Neil Daniher for raising awareness for MND?

Did you boo Shane Crawford for riding across the country for breast cancer?

Did you boo Nick Riewolt for organising Maddie's Match?

Did you boo Mark Thompson for speaking up about mental illness?

What about if i just think goodes is a douche? Cant i boo him for that? I think stevie j is a douche and no one has a problem when i boo him..

 

[snitzel]

I wish Goodes would harden up for once in his life.

 

[Back One Out]

Patrons are advised not to boo the protected species….

 

[Kummerspeck]

and calls anyone who criticises him a racist.

Can you provide examples of Goodes doing this in his almost two decade long career?

 

[Godfather32]

Did the AFL come out and ask the crowds to not booo Watson?

The media certainly had a big cry about it at the time it happened over here.

 

[snitzel]

Also if you are not a racist, it must be pretty insulting to be called a racist.

 

[Naked_North]

New idea - every supporter is allocated a certain amount of boo's per game. Let's say 4, and a certain amount of cheers. Let's say 12 cheers. So that's 3 cheers and one boo a quarter. Now allocated boo's must not be too loud and cannot offend anyone in a 100 meter radius.

Simple guys I fixed the afl

 

[ozgamer]

But former West Coast great Glen Jakovich was highly critical of Jetta’s actions on radio station SEN, saying: “This is unacceptable in any sport.”

Jakovich, the former boundary rider that nobody misses.