Opinion The Adelaide Board Politics/COVID Thread Part 3

[1970crow]

George takei has one of the worst cases of Trump Derangement Syndrome going. He would fit in well on this thread will you and your loopy mates

Isn’t he an actor, or is he an economist as well?

 

[adelaidecrows]

Isn’t he an actor, or is he an economist as well?

Just an actor who politically commentates against Trump

 

[Crow till I die]

Isn’t he an actor, or is he an economist as well?

one of the hollywood wacko's

 

[1970crow]

What Gina Rinehart did should be celebrated and the netball players association under Kathryn Harby-Williams needs to pull their head in.

I am all for people having an opinion and I have no issue with the netballers having an opinion of their sponsor. The issue was they went public. This outcry of they should have had an exemption by Harby-Williams was some of the most pathetic radio I have heard in a very long time. Under no circumstances should any professional athlete in a team ever be granted an exemption. I have no doubt that they went public to try and pressure Hancock Prospecting into the exemption and it backfired. In a major misreading of the room by the netballers, the vast majority of Australia sided with Rinehart. A simple 1 second google search by the indigenous netballer would have discovered Hancock Prospecting sponsors NAIDOC and she even has an Indigenous Scolarship Program. What a massive insult to have some indigenous person then come out and then play the race card of something Gina had no control of. She should be devastated because she clearly didnt bother to research Hancock Prospecting before choosing to insult them. Harby-Williams should also be embarrassed for her stance as she nor the other netballers never did their research.

You want to virtue signal, at least get your facts right.

There’s every chance that the aboriginal girl wasn’t even the player instigating the action. More likely some efftard white chicks full of wind, piss and themselves.

 

[1970crow]

one of the hollywood wacko's

Really keen to hear what Britney has to say about the pros and cons of Brexit. That said, I don’t doubt she’d know a bit more of the ins and outs than our resident experts here.

 

[Crow till I die]

Really keen to hear what Britney has to say about the pros and cons of Brexit. That said, I don’t doubt she’d know a bit more of the ins and outs than our resident experts here.

and markle..she would have an opinion on it too

 

[kirky]

Yeah, its the result of this image of experience the voting public go for. Its weird, its like they dont grasp most CEO's and corporate big wigs are in the late 40s and 50s yet only someone in their 70s has the experience to run a country.

And I’m past 60 so can also self classify as an old fart.

All societies need to be run by those who will still be around in 25-30 years. People around the age of 40 should be in charge - they are mature and got their lives generally in order.

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

I’d like the netballers to swear under oath and sign an affidavit that their dads never did or said anything racist.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

We are talking about the US. Have you seen how many old farts are in both the House and the Senate?

Just had a look at the senate. Some of these are running again. Scary. Biden is a kid amongst some of these

 

[1970crow]

My take on it is that you're being paid to play a sport so you go out there and do your job. They should be going out there and representing their team and the sport to the best of their ability and that should be their focus, not putting their beliefs/religion before what they're being paid to do.

It's pretty much the same opinion I have about players who protest about wearing pride jumpers etc

The biggest bugbear I have with things like this are the usual band of hypocrites that flip flop between issues when it suits them.....

If they're protesting/complaining against something I agree with = Good
If they're protesting/complaining against something I don't agree with = Bad

I think you’re missing a key variable. The GWS chick and the rugby players didn’t protest as such, they declined to wear the jumpers in-house and were stood down. The media got a hold of it and all hell broke loose. I support their right to not wear the guernsey, but also the rights of the clubs to stand them down and even execute any punitive measures available under the contract.

But the netballers are very different. They deliberately placed themselves front and centre in as public a way as available to them. You’d have to be wilfully ignorant or hopelessly partisan to not see the difference.

 

[OneGreatClub]

one of the hollywood wacko's

Trump is the biggest Hollywood whacko of all..lololol

 

[Crow till I die]

Trump is the biggest Hollywood whacko of all..lololol

No he is not, your woke snowdrops airbrushed him out of home alone 2..lol

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

one of the hollywood wacko's

Wouldn't we be better off if Trump returned to his Celebrity Apprentice...

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Just had a look at the senate. Some of these are running again. Scary. Biden is a kid amongst some of these

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That's insane!

USA have a lower age limit... but not an upper age limit.

 

[Cap]

Yeh, I doubt it. I expect you get the same news feed as OGC. You’ve pretty much proven, by way of your little hissy fit, that you can’t explain any particular negative aspect of Brexit. But you do you.

Hissy fit?

Calling you a ****ing moron isn't a hissy fit. It's stating the obvious.

Edit - in all honesty your posting has become more a more stupid. It's like you've lowered yourself to our resident anti-intellectuals to try and fit in.

 

[Sanders]

But the netballers are very different. They deliberately placed themselves front and centre in as public a way as available to them. You’d have to be wilfully ignorant or hopelessly partisan to not see the difference.

The netballers have every right to express them same as everyone else, but they don’t have the right to defy the gravitational pull of basic economics

They don’t generate sufficient revenue to pay the salaries they want, so what do they think should fallen?

 

[Bearded Clam]

Who are you angry at?

Not angry at anyone..

just pointing out that Pete taking pleasure in Netball Australia’s predicament is a bit strange as in the end it’s gonna probably cost us all.. when the government use our tax dollars to bail them out!.

all because of a bit of a hoo har over some pretty fxxkd up comments made by Gina’s old man in the 80’s..

I don’t think Gina herself would’ve agreed with her old man’s comments so I’m not sure why she needs to apologise for them..

Gina probably didn’t agree with a hell of a lot her old man said.. He even had some nasty words for her over the years.. he called her a greedy little fat baby elephant at one point.

word in the news today is that the player(s) that had said they wouldn’t wear the uniform with HP on it actually had changed their minds and said they would… but Gina still pulled the sponsorship..

On a side note - if anyone was to have a go at Gina and HP on environmental grounds. Gina and HP are an environmentally aware (woke) company.

I happen to know Gina has spent a lot of her own money on environmental causes.. Gina is a big fan of the Sturt Desert Pea.. has in the past put good money toward it.

 

[relapse]

I think you’re missing a key variable. The GWS chick and the rugby players didn’t protest as such, they declined to wear the jumpers in-house and were stood down. The media got a hold of it and all hell broke loose. I support their right to not wear the guernsey, but also the rights of the clubs to stand them Fien and even execute any punitive measures available under the contract.

But the netballers are very different. They deliberately placed themselves front and centre in as public a way as available to them. You’d have to be wilfully ignorant or hopelessly partisan to not see the difference.

From what I'm aware the only person who was publicly bagging the deal was Sharni Layton, but she's not involved with Netball Australia anymore.

All the players did was not wear the uniform that had the Hancock Prospecting logo on it, which is exactly what people on the right were all claiming was more than fair a few weeks ago when it was relating to pride guernseys.

Apparently you should be free to be able to go out and play wearing a uniform that doesn't contain messaging that you don't support and there should be zero repercussions for anyone who does. I don't agree, but I can remember a few posters on here who were very vocal about it at the time.

My position has been firm with both scenarios, so spare me the baseless partisian accusation. The players are being paid to play and part of that job is putting the best interests of the team and sport first.

I have zero problems with Reinhardt pulling the sponsorship deal, it's her money and she can do whatever she likes with it.

If players want to put their own opinions and beliefs before what they're paid to do then they have to accept the repercussions of what comes along with it.

 

[feenix67]

From what I'm aware the only person who was publicly bagging the deal was Sharni Layton, but she's not involved with Netball Australia anymore.

All the players did was not wear the uniform that had the Hancock Prospecting logo on it, which is exactly what people on the right were all claiming was more than fair a few weeks ago when it was relating to pride guernseys.

Apparently you should be free to be able to go out and play wearing a uniform that doesn't contain the messaging that you don't support and there should be zero repercussions for anyone who does.

My position has been firm with both scenarios, so spare me the baseless partisian accusation. The players are being paid to play and part of that job is putting the best interests of the team and sport first.

I have zero problems with Reinhardt pulling the sponsorship deal, it's her money and she can do whatever she likes with it.

If players want to put their own opinions and beliefs before what their paid to do then they have to accept the repercussions of what comes along with it.

The difference between the Pride guernsey and the HP logo is about $15M and the livelihoods of a league full of players.

 

[relapse]

The difference between the Pride guernsey and the HP logo is about $15M and the livelihoods of a league full of players.

The underlying issue though is still about players wearing/not wearing unforms that contain messaging that they don't support.

I've said it numerous times already that players need to go out there and just do what they're paid to do and leave all the other stuff at the door.

What happens if a group of players elect to boycott pride round and the team ends up losing a sponsor over it?

All these types of situations have potential repercussions attached to them and if players decide to put themselves before their club/sport then they have to deal with the consequences.

 

[relapse]

Where have they said they are a victim?

The irony with that post too is that many of the people who liked it were the same people who were playing the victim card for those who were refusing to wear pride guernseys.

Stuff like this is why I always find this place so highly amusing.

 

[Mostyn]

Not to keep this in politics, but Gina is always an interesting sort. I'll probably never forgive the hundreds of millions they poured into getting the Super Profits tax repealed, which probably moved more of the nation's wealth into private hands than anything of the last 40 years.

We could have been Norway, etc etc.

But good on her. Hancock Prospecting have less than 50 employees, so it's hard to argue what they contribute other than the approximately 15c in the dollar they're paying in tax.

Gina probably didn’t agree with a hell of a lot her old man said.. He even had some nasty words for her over the years.. he called her a greedy little fat baby elephant at one point.

"Two things seem to hurt her particularly: the stock news description of her as an heiress, and perceived failures of the press to acknowledge the achievements of her late father, Lang Hancock, whom she adored (when they were not feuding) with a rare intensity."

The Miner’s Daughter

Gina Rinehart is Australia’s richest—and most controversial—billionaire.

www.newyorker.com

Very interesting family.

On a side note - if anyone was to have a go at Gina and HP on environmental grounds. Gina and HP are an environmentally aware (woke) company.

I happen to know Gina has spent a lot of her own money on environmental causes.. Gina is a big fan of the Sturt Desert Pea.. has in the past put good money toward it.

Not sure there's much evidence of Gina or Hancock Prospecting being "woke". It seems almost insane to suggest it.

A quick google can come up with dozens of articles about Gina saying that climate change is just propaganda, and speaks of the efforts she's made to try and convince people that Climate Change doesn't exist.

Gina Rinehart takes issue with climate change ‘propaganda’ in speech to private girls’ school

Mining magnate complains students were made to watch Al Gore documentary in video that was edited by her former school

www.theguardian.com

 

[1970crow]

The irony with that post too is that many of the people who liked it were the same people who were playing the victim card for those who were refusing to wear pride guernseys.

Stuff like this is why I always find this place so highly amusing.

Again, there was nothing suggested by that puts that they were claiming to be victims. But there have been others in the press and the usual talking heads I presume. And then there’s the usual woketards that thrive on a pile on when it suits their agenda, but when it doesn’t, they apply a liberal dose of whataboutism with a passive aggressive topping.

Like what you just did.

 

[1970crow]

You're really gone now! Criticising the mods is a life ban, isn't it?

Something tells me that BC will be ok. Call it a hunch.

 

[1970crow]

From what I'm aware the only person who was publicly bagging the deal was Sharni Layton, but she's not involved with Netball Australia anymore.

All the players did was not wear the uniform that had the Hancock Prospecting logo on it, which is exactly what people on the right were all claiming was more than fair a few weeks ago when it was relating to pride guernseys.

Apparently you should be free to be able to go out and play wearing a uniform that doesn't contain messaging that you don't support and there should be zero repercussions for anyone who does. I don't agree, but I can remember a few posters on here who were very vocal about it at the time.

My position has been firm with both scenarios, so spare me the baseless partisian accusation. The players are being paid to play and part of that job is putting the best interests of the team and sport first.

I have zero problems with Reinhardt pulling the sponsorship deal, it's her money and she can do whatever she likes with it.

If players want to put their own opinions and beliefs before what they're paid to do then they have to accept the repercussions of what comes along with it.

No, the difference with the pride guernsies was that the players didn’t expect to play. Normal thinking people support their rights to be stood down due to their religious beliefs. The netballers believed they had the right to simply play in a uniform of their own choosing, put the sponsorship at risk and still earn their full salaries. This is apples and oranges.

Had the GWS chick and RL players rolled up expecting to run out onto the ground and play in standard uniform then you’d have a point. But, seeing as the actions of the players are vastly different, you don’t.

But don’t worry, I know you’ll refuse to comprehend this. It’s how your type rolls.