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Unsolved The Beaumont Children
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A heads UP
There is a Production Company Filming in Adelaide. The upcoming Channel seven show is called "The Hunters".
The show headed by Adam Shand, who previously did a podcast on Derrek Percy.
They are well into an investigation on the Beaumont's. Iam not sure who their Persons of Interest are, but can assume it may be Percy.
We will wait and see the final production looks like!
There is a Production Company Filming in Adelaide. The upcoming Channel seven show is called "The Hunters".
The show headed by Adam Shand, who previously did a podcast on Derrek Percy.
They are well into an investigation on the Beaumont's. Iam not sure who their Persons of Interest are, but can assume it may be Percy.
We will wait and see the final production looks like!
They have filmed in Glenelg obviously and at the back of Castalloy as far as I can tell.
OK so the podcaster Adam Shand is saying Melbourne was where he grew up buy talking about schools in Adelaide... did no one else pick up on this. I'm kinda confused.. fact check podcasters please.!!
The school are in adelaide not Melbourne
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Hi Macka, Curious as to why you think SAPOL didn’t want this case closed.
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Just think some high up involvement. Why was it that no one was allowed to talk to the parents nothing at all over the years that’s unusual. Also think sapol know more than what’s out in public.
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Thanks Macka. I would never dismiss possible high up involvement at all, especially considering Family murders. Perhaps parents requested no further interviews, especially to media if they felt they had nothing more to give. And yes SAPOL would certainly be holding selective information from public.
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For what purpose would they still be holding information back after 57 years? no reason to do that unless they are hiding something they don’t want known.
I have access to a few Ex-workers from Castaloy. People who worked there 80s - 90s. Typically they worked there no more than a year.
They have spoken about the origins of the Harry Phipps theory. They describe Castaloy as a harsh environment, with Chemicals and foundries etc. It highlights the fact, that if Harry really wanted too, he could have completely destroyed any evidence. The side story that the Beaumont's were placed in a pre-dug pit doesn't make any sense.
I don't want to appear to debunk the Phipps theory. But there is no supporting evidence that Harry targeted children outside of his own family. No independent Victims have come forward saying they were assaulted by Harry or even approached by him. Also no police reports or charges to back the allegations he was a pedo. My information is that SAPOL have dropped this line of enquiry. Indicating Harry is POI not a suspect!
One of the people I spoke to was a maintenance worker who gained access to the cottages on the site (probably to sleep)
He described them as eerie, but found nothing to indicate anything untoward happened.
Just a note: with regard to the Wenzel's so called sighting, Kids buying food. Just an observation-
James Ryan's MO was to abduct up kids as they exited a Deli or shop.
They have spoken about the origins of the Harry Phipps theory. They describe Castaloy as a harsh environment, with Chemicals and foundries etc. It highlights the fact, that if Harry really wanted too, he could have completely destroyed any evidence. The side story that the Beaumont's were placed in a pre-dug pit doesn't make any sense.
I don't want to appear to debunk the Phipps theory. But there is no supporting evidence that Harry targeted children outside of his own family. No independent Victims have come forward saying they were assaulted by Harry or even approached by him. Also no police reports or charges to back the allegations he was a pedo. My information is that SAPOL have dropped this line of enquiry. Indicating Harry is POI not a suspect!
One of the people I spoke to was a maintenance worker who gained access to the cottages on the site (probably to sleep)
He described them as eerie, but found nothing to indicate anything untoward happened.
Just a note: with regard to the Wenzel's so called sighting, Kids buying food. Just an observation-
James Ryan's MO was to abduct up kids as they exited a Deli or shop.
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I still can't really buy any sort of "higher ups" theory in relation to unsolved crimes in SA. We know The Family are mostly a bunch of nobodies with some moderately wealthy people in the mix. Definitely not people with the power to be suppressing their crimes. And same here it just feels like a convenient way to explain how a case with very little evidence in a pre-digital world has gone unsolved.
Even the Derek Percy angle I can't take that seriously. Percy is to child-related crimes in the 60s as Ivan Milat is to any unsolved homicide on the east coast of Australia from the mid-70s to early 90s. The fact of the matter is there are a lot more monsters out there than we'd ever be comfortable admitting and trying to find tenuous links to known monsters probably isn't the right way to go unless you have a very compelling reason for doing so.
I think you have to come back to the bakery and the other siblings teasing about Jane having a "boyfriend." It could still be an incredibly brazen random abduction but it feels more likely it was someone targeting Jane and grooming her until he reached the point he was confident he could take her away without her raising a fuss to cause suspicion. The other two siblings going along is likely just because the perpetrator knew he'd never get Jane completely alone so it was easier to abduct his intended target with the siblings coming along quietly.
Three children walking with an older man most people wouldn't think twice about. But two young children alone and scared they'd lost their older sister would definitely cause a scene and make people notice
Even the Derek Percy angle I can't take that seriously. Percy is to child-related crimes in the 60s as Ivan Milat is to any unsolved homicide on the east coast of Australia from the mid-70s to early 90s. The fact of the matter is there are a lot more monsters out there than we'd ever be comfortable admitting and trying to find tenuous links to known monsters probably isn't the right way to go unless you have a very compelling reason for doing so.
I think you have to come back to the bakery and the other siblings teasing about Jane having a "boyfriend." It could still be an incredibly brazen random abduction but it feels more likely it was someone targeting Jane and grooming her until he reached the point he was confident he could take her away without her raising a fuss to cause suspicion. The other two siblings going along is likely just because the perpetrator knew he'd never get Jane completely alone so it was easier to abduct his intended target with the siblings coming along quietly.
Three children walking with an older man most people wouldn't think twice about. But two young children alone and scared they'd lost their older sister would definitely cause a scene and make people notice
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I don’t think we would see a prosecution now. It could be solved by a confession or some lightning bolt of evidence that completely solves it.
Wow, I haven't been on here for so long. Thankyou so much for this information."Watts skippered the boats until March 1962, when the business was sold to Keith and Elma Altmann. Keith Altmann had been working in petrol stations and did not know much about boats but on his first day as the boat owner he drove a Popeye during the Festival of Arts."
Popeye - History Hub
'Popeye the Sailor' was a popular cartoon at the cinema in the 1930s when Gordon Watts introduced a tourist pleasure craft on the River Torrenssahistoryhub.history.sa.gov.au
Could you ask these people if Lindsay West ever worked there please?
A serious question. I hope I word it right.
My POI was a serial paedophile. No gender bias.
Through my continued investigations, I have uncovered that he also r*ped two adult women. To my knowledge, neither were reported to police.
So he was going between molesting children (In fact on one occasion, he molested a child, then r*ped a woman in the same evening.)
My question is: Does this put him in a different realm?
Also, a workmate has described him as a gentle giant. Always so polite. How wrong can someone be?????
Thanks again for your support.
My POI was a serial paedophile. No gender bias.
Through my continued investigations, I have uncovered that he also r*ped two adult women. To my knowledge, neither were reported to police.
So he was going between molesting children (In fact on one occasion, he molested a child, then r*ped a woman in the same evening.)
My question is: Does this put him in a different realm?
Also, a workmate has described him as a gentle giant. Always so polite. How wrong can someone be?????
Thanks again for your support.
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No. Fairly common pattern.
Male child abusers are often divided into whether they have an adult sexual orientation or not. Many do not, they are only interested in having sex with children. A significant percentage are not concerned with the child's gender. Most with an adult sexual orientation are heterosexual. So the pattern of both male-male and male-female sex with a child but an adult heterosexual orientation is fairly common and I suspect describes your bloke.
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Following from my previous post, this gives a figure.
"....Only 21 percent of the child molesters we studied who assault little boys were exclusively homosexual. Nearly 80 percent of the men who molested little boys were heterosexual or bisexual and most of these men were married and had children of their own."
"....Only 21 percent of the child molesters we studied who assault little boys were exclusively homosexual. Nearly 80 percent of the men who molested little boys were heterosexual or bisexual and most of these men were married and had children of their own."
Hi Macka, are you able to share where or who you heard / read that from?
...Not asking for a name drop... but curious to know if it was by a friend/ family / acquaintance of the parents or media / article etc ... why would the parents want to hide the truth especially as they are both now deceased?
If they were scared or threatened , well no none can get them now.. maybe there is a diary or some kind of evidence in their belongings they left for someone to discover one day...
Every victim deserves victory In the end.
Identifying the monster may save other children or at least bring awareness of how a wolf ( or a pack of them) can hide in sheep's clothing.
Hi CD Xbox. So you have done a study on child molesters? Could you tell me in what capacity this was done? What is your line of work? You can message me privately 8f you prefer
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