Society & Culture The Bigfooty Guide to Getting the Woman of Your Desire (Part 5)

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Yeh, but I think a lot of people jump the gun on this.

They'll find a chick they like a bit, they decide to give it more attention than warranted, then they'll just fall in love and that's where it all turns to shit.

Nothing good has ever come from liking a chick.

That's different. I'm saying if you know you have the right person or that the person you are with could be that person, to pass up on it because you're at your peak is silly and something you would more than likely end up regretting.
 

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Giving business cards to girls is top-drawer cheesy. One step short of bragging about how much money you make.

Anecdotally it seems to mostly be employed by tragic old coots with nothing else going for them, and kids who are proud of getting their first real job.
 
Yeh, fair call. As I said I'm probably against it personally but works for a mate.

I'd be curious to know peoples 'ice breakers'. Is there a line you will go for the majority of the time?? An open ended question to crack open the can of conversation?

Malifice?
 
I'd be curious to know peoples 'ice breakers'. Is there a line you will go for the majority of the time?? An open ended question to crack open the can of conversation?

Malifice?

I dont use pick up lines personally all that often (aside from a lark), but when said correctly (i.e. with humor), they do work, despite the high cheese factor.

At the least, they put 'sex' out there from the first time you open your mouth, display confidence in the ability to approach a stranger and 'drop one', and if you make her laugh and get her intrest, it cant be a bad thing.

Personally they just feel too 'manufactured' for me.

In relation to an ice breaker, the best one you can use is an open ended question (no yes or no questions). Something along the lines of "My friend and I were just debating (this question) and we were wondering if you could settle the debate for us." Preferably the 'question' involves sex or dating in a slightly risky and non direct (round about) way, and shows a level of humor or insight.

Its got to make her want to engage with the conversation (and you).

Some examples:

1) Get you and your wingman to both buy the most outrageous cocktails at the bar (replete with little umbrellas and such). Now approach a chick and ask her who looks the most homosexual.

2) Anything beginning with: 'we need a girls opinion on 'x'. ('x' should involve some unwritten rule on dating such as avoiding your ex, the third date rule, can you be friends with exes, whats a reasonable age gap to date, etc - or on a fashion choice e.g. 'am I pulling this off' - Chicks love to talk about that stuff, and it opens up a plethora of opportunities to Neg).

Etc.

I also loved Barney Stinsons line in How I met Your Mother. Aside from the classic "Haaave you met Ted'?, there is this pearler:

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Just swallow your fear, and be confident. Remember at clubs, chicks get guys hitting on them without remorse, so its a tough crowd to crack. OTOH, most guys suck at 'picking up' (screaming 'show us your ****' out of a car window doesnt impress anyone) and the ladies are usually drunk and (lets be honest here) are only there in a large part to fulfill the 'social animal' side of living, and are open to getting picked up once you 'prove' yourself.

They wont show any mercy at first; but once you get 'in' past that hard exterior, youre golden.

It really doesnt matter what you say to an extent, but how you say it. A confident approach is the key. And never stick around once it becomes obvious that she's losing intrest. In fact I personaly bail the instant I suspect she is losing intrest. It avoids awkwardness, and in many cases makes her more intrested in you (you cant chase what doesnt runaway after all).

Like seriously, mostly, I just wing it. Look for inspiration at the club (two chicks wearing the same dress, some guy obviously below her league bothering her, shes's short, shes drinking an intresting cocktails, she looks like a fiend of your on facebook, her friends have bailed on her, she dissaproves of the guy her friend is hooking up with, she's judging another chick at the bar, whatever). When nothing inspires me, I'll generally just go with: Hows your night going tonight ladies? and then just wing it from there.

As long as you do most of the following in approx the following order:

  • Try to ask open ended questions
  • Throw 'sex' or out there as soon as possible
  • Use humor, but dont perform for her
  • Neg and tease (backhanded compliments)
  • Be intresting and a little dangerous
  • Issue 'commands'. (a 'command' to high five, or to 'pinky swear' or to 'bump knuckles' or 'hug it out' if followed, shows compliance with your 'orders' and also initiates physical contact)
  • Initiate physical contact.
And most importantly, be confident (including the confidence to simply walk away at any time). Dont umm and ah, be prepared to take it to 'the next level' with funny but 'inappropriate' sexual comments etc.

Edit: Forgot to mention re confidence. Dont just 'talk' confident. Act confident from the moment you walk into the place. Dont stand at the bar, own the bar. Dont walk across the room, strut across it. Try to stand out from the crowd a little. If youre just like every other dude in the club... youre just like every other dude.

Get into charachter as much as possible, and it will just kinda come naturally from there. Its basically a form of method acting for most of us (those that werent lucky enough to be born model hot and oozing confidence naturally... i.e. the majority of us).

Remember you might be able to set up your opening line, but you are going to have to wing it and go with the flow afterwards. You cant script a whole conversation. If you are 'in character' as a confident manwhore (and committed to that character) you stand a much greater chance of success notwhistanding you might (in reality) be shitting yourself and have a really low strike rate.

Roughly stick to the above and youll be right.
 
Eh, I got minimal game, but engaging the girl is 90% of the battle. Helps if something about you is different, whether that be your 'line' or your look or the way you look at her. If their keen, you know quick.

Agree with your confidence stuff 100% though.
 
With negging and backhanded compliments, how far is too far though? I've drunkenly asked a few small-country town girl if there parents are cousins. That was obviously didn't go down well, but I was pretty drunk so I had a laugh.

Seriously though, I struggle to see how it can be done without sounding like a rude prick and putting her off.
 
I've drunkenly asked a few small-country town girl if there parents are cousins. That was obviously didn't go down well, but I was pretty drunk so I had a laugh.

Isnt that a win - win anyway?

;)

Seriously though, you can get away with almost anything.

Context is important.

But push the envelope.

There are always more girls.

Lots more.
 

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Eh, I remember when I was blind drunk one time, I just went around challenging girls to "rock, paper, scissors" (don't ask why), needless to say, I won 99% of the time (they always chose scissors), but it always led to conversation and flirting. Give it a try lol.
 
Need some GD advice.. Anyway, met a girl last night at a party, really attractive and got on well with her, told me to add her on facebook etc. Anyway, I knew beforehand that she has a long term boyfriend, however he doesn't live in the country right now.

Do I just continue talking to her and let things play out casually?
 
Need some GD advice.. Anyway, met a girl last night at a party, really attractive and got on well with her, told me to add her on facebook etc. Anyway, I knew beforehand that she has a long term boyfriend, however he doesn't live in the country right now.

Do I just continue talking to her and let things play out casually?

This seems to be a trend these days and it's really pissing me off

And yeah if she's cool you may as well keep in contact, just don't let yourself get friendzoned for future endevours
 
Tbh if a girl just says 'add me on Facebook' she's not that interested IMO. That's something you can do without any effort from her- all you need to know is her name.She's letting you down easy.
 
Just smile and say you don't really use FB that much, and you'd rather give them a call.

If they're not serious enough about you to be comfortable giving out their number, then they're probably no great loss.
This isn't a girl I've just met randomly though. She goes to quite a number of events that I do due to mutual friends, so I will see her again at some point anyway. I didn't feel it was right asking for her number considering the fact about her boyfriend, and not wanting to look like I was being a sleazebag trying to steal her away. I have a feeling she is just a really nice girl who is easy to chat to, but you just never know. She was the one who first asked her friend (my brother's girlfriend) who I was too. And tbh, I was only thinking of her just as a friend to begin with anyway, I don't want to be that guy who breaks up a relationship.
 
Seriously BACCS... you know how you wonder why you get friendzoned so regularly? This is why.
What, so I should do my best to subtly steal her away then? Nothing wrong with beings friends with a girl either, when you know the likelihood of her ever being available aren't high. Not saying I won't ever go after her, but no point in taking that risk now and wreck any chance I have, no matter how small.

Oh well, we'll see what happens.
 
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