Play Nice The CAS Appeal thread - update: appeal fails (11/10/16)

[Blue1980]

By the way, the international conference held by an organisation called Law in Sport has named one of its seminars:

“Anti-Doping – What is the future of anti-doping following the IAAF and Essendon Scandals?"

Panel members include WADA, CAS and lawyers from US Track and Field. The Chairman of the Panel is Sean Cottrell.

This issue is not going away.

Its becoming an international embarrassment for CAS, WADA and ASADA.

This is complete BS.

Fair to say the case against most convicted by WADA is stronger than the EFC34...

"Their just a little guilty, its still good, its still good"

 

[Blue1980]

3 highly qualified, highly experienced judges who are trained and appointed by WADA to hear cases for WADA and have been proven biased to WADA in the German courts.

I've read the CAS findings sheet. It's actually disgraceful.

lol, if only they had taken into account the 'Good Aussie blokes you can have a beer with' defence.

Compounded TB4, sent onsite to Windy Hill, players signing consent forms for Thymosin, Dank mentioning TB4 in an interview not being aware TB4 was banned, texts about TB4 being the cornerstone of the program, all records of the program mysteriously destroyed etc

Unless you actually had video evidence of the injections going into each player, I am not sure what more proof you can have.

If the AFL used the same burden of proof as they did on Essendon in other world drug cases, Lance Armstrong, Marion Jones and the Russian track and field team wouldn't of been found guilty.

 

[jenny61_99]

lol, if only they had taken into account the 'Good Aussie blokes you can have a beer with' defence.

Compounded TB4, sent onsite to Windy Hill, players signing consent forms for Thymosin, Dank mentioning TB4 in an interview not being aware TB4 was banned, texts about TB4 being the cornerstone of the program, all records of the program mysteriously destroyed etc

Unless you actually had video evidence of the injections going into each player, I am not sure what more proof you can have.

If the AFL used the same burden of proof as they did on Essendon in other world drug cases, Lance Armstrong, Marion Jones and the Russian track and field team wouldn't of been found guilty.

Wouldn't have...

*sorry, it irks me!

 

[StabbytheRabbit]

lol, if only they had taken into account the 'Good Aussie blokes you can have a beer with' defence.

Compounded TB4, sent onsite to Windy Hill, players signing consent forms for Thymosin, Dank mentioning TB4 in an interview not being aware TB4 was banned, texts about TB4 being the cornerstone of the program, all records of the program mysteriously destroyed etc

Unless you actually had video evidence of the injections going into each player, I am not sure what more proof you can have.

If the AFL used the same burden of proof as they did on Essendon in other world drug cases, Lance Armstrong, Marion Jones and the Russian track and field team wouldn't of been found guilty.

The AFL Tribunal comprising Australian judges had applied Australian law in finding the players innocent.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Just in case you have been in your hole for a few months CAS found them guilty.

 

[robbieando]

The AFL Tribunal comprising Australian judges had applied Australian law in finding the players innocent.

Where do you even start with this comment....

 

[jenny61_99]

Where do you even start with this comment....

You just don't even bother.

 

[pablo668]

I think that Robbo should be referred henceforth as 'Big Footys Mark Robinson'.

 

[Chameleon75]

The AFL Tribunal comprising Australian judges had applied Australian law in finding the players innocent.

Ah the xenophobia argument.

That aside both panels applied the afl anti doping code.

 

[Blue1980]

The AFL Tribunal looking after their own interests found them not guilty

EFA

If you think the AFL Tribunal was following general standards of Australian law, our prisons would be a lot more empty.

 

[robbieando]

You just don't even bother.

True. If Bruce isn't going to recognise Australian law, then why should we recognise him.

 

[Blue1980]

Ah the xenophobia argument.

That aside both panels applied the afl anti doping code.

Maybe we should just cut off contact with the world in general based on this finding. I mean their not Aussies, how can we trust them?

 

[Tiger Toffee]

Let me get this right, this is just an application for an appeal which then has to be approved before an appeal in even heard and it still costs $500,000.

So the application will be lodged, sit at the bottom of the pile and then be looked at just when the bans are coming to an end, wow money well spent.

 

[Spongebob]

The AFL Tribunal comprising Australian judges had applied Australian law in finding the players innocent.

turn back the verdict

 

[Spongebob]

By the way, the international conference held by an organisation called Law in Sport has named one of its seminars:

“Anti-Doping – What is the future of anti-doping following the IAAF and Essendon Scandals?"

Panel members include WADA, CAS and lawyers from US Track and Field. The Chairman of the Panel is Sean Cottrell.

This issue is not going away.

Its becoming an international embarrassment for CAS, WADA and ASADA.

next topic at the conference:

Governance - Creating a culture of accountability and transparency

 

[Matt loves Essendon]

"Their just a little guilty, its still good, its still good"

Ever watched the movie 12 Angry Men?

 

[Baltimore Jack]

Where do you even start with this comment....

Start with Pity

 

[Seadog]

Ever watched the movie 12 Angry Men?

Yeah I have. It's a....... well it's a movie. Absolutely no relevance at all to this discussion.

 

[StabbytheRabbit]

lol, if only they had taken into account the 'Good Aussie blokes you can have a beer with' defence.

Compounded TB4, sent onsite to Windy Hill, players signing consent forms for Thymosin, Dank mentioning TB4 in an interview not being aware TB4 was banned, texts about TB4 being the cornerstone of the program, all records of the program mysteriously destroyed etc

Unless you actually had video evidence of the injections going into each player, I am not sure what more proof you can have.

If the AFL used the same burden of proof as they did on Essendon in other world drug cases, Lance Armstrong, Marion Jones and the Russian track and field team wouldn't of been found guilty.

Check you facts.

There was no evidence that TB4 made it into Australia, let alone to the Compounding Chemist, or the Club.

The AFL Tribunal comprising Australian judges had applied Australian law in finding the players innocent.

 

[CbayT]

Let me get this right, this is just an application for an appeal which then has to be approved before an appeal in even heard and it still costs $500,000.

So the application will be lodged, sit at the bottom of the pile and then be looked at just when the bans are coming to an end, wow money well spent.

They might let the players keep playing in the interim. I think that's the aim, plus it may be a strategy to limit efc exposure to damages by a bit.

The 500 k is a retainer if they say fu when they make the initial application they only burn some of the money

 

[Muggs]

Check you facts.

There was no evidence that TB4 made it into Australia, let alone to the Compounding Chemist, or the Club.

The AFL Tribunal comprising Australian judges had applied Australian law in finding the players innocent.

No just a product shipped from Como Pharmacy that an expert said he was 99% sure was TB4 based on the molecular weight of the substance, tested by Bio21 a division of Uni of Melbourne, Australia highest ranked university.

In a hearing conducted using the 2010 AFL anti -doping code as was the AFL tribunal.

 

[jenny61_99]

Check you facts.

There was no evidence that TB4 made it into Australia, let alone to the Compounding Chemist, or the Club.

The AFL Tribunal comprising Australian judges had applied Australian law in finding the players innocent.

You really need to check your facts. Afl tribunal decision overturned. Both panels applied afl anti doping code. Players guilty.

 

[jenny61_99]

They might let the players keep playing in the interim. I think that's the aim, plus it may be a strategy to limit efc exposure to damages by a bit.

The 500 k is a retainer if they say fu when they make the initial application they only burn some of the money

Players won't play.

 

[CbayT]

Check you facts.

There was no evidence that TB4 made it into Australia, let alone to the Compounding Chemist, or the Club.

The AFL Tribunal comprising Australian judges had applied Australian law in finding the players innocent.

ur kidding right?

 

[imperial_oz]

Check you facts.

There was no evidence that TB4 made it into Australia, let alone to the Compounding Chemist, or the Club.

The AFL Tribunal comprising Australian judges had applied Australian law in finding the players innocent.

Nonsense, Bruce! Again!

The players own expert agreed that the compounded material WAS 98 - 99% TB4.

Why do insist on spreading material that you know and I know and everybody else knows to be completely untrue? What do you hope to achieve apart from looking like a complete fool?

Insisting on spreading comments like when you know it to be absolutely false reduces any shred of credibility to zero