The CFMEU vs the AFL

[The Feeder Club]

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/john-setka-shirtfronts-afl-over-umpire-boss-stephen-mcburney/news-story/bf140a54ac4bb49af5bc7bd013c4fbd8

Although he might have lent even more credibility to his attack by pointing out McBurney's defence of the Yeo free kick is absurd, Setka is threatening the AFL with what matters most to them, money.
Every chance they'll fold like a pack of cards. Bye Stephen

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Mr McBurney, a former Australian Football League umpire and organised crime investigator, was appointed in 2018 by the Coalition government to head the ABCC.



He always looked like a slimy prick. There you go.

 

[The Feeder Club]

Asked if the union campaign had implications for the proposed Hobart stadium, Mr Setka told The Australian: “I think it will have implications for the AFL right across Australia. We have an obligation to pursue anti-union, anti-worker f..kers like him and we will until the end of the earth.

“This is going to cost the AFL a lot of f..king money. I hope it’s worth it. Projects without our full co-operation are going to be a f..king misery for them.

“They will regret the day they ever employed him.”

 

[Engimal v3]

Unfortunately for John, the AFL is not his ex-wife and he won't be able to beat them into submission.

 

[El Doederino]

Setka sounds like a bit of a sook

 

[Bjo187]

The cfmeu are an absolute disgrace, the amount of criminal behavior they get away with because of their political influence with labor is absurd. Just their usual bullying tactics here.

 

[The Feeder Club]

The cfmeu are an absolute disgrace, the amount of criminal behavior they get away with because of their political influence with labor is absurd. Just their usual bullying tactics here.

Be that as it may, the question is will the AFL fold? I mean they're not going to sack him immediately and be seen to give into intimidation, but if the price of industrial peace and millions of dollars saved is McBurney, what do you think might happen on the quiet down the track?
Of course it could just be setka was pissed as a newt when talking to the reporter from the Oz and making hollow threats to play to his membership

 

[VL3OJ]

I'm no lawyer however I believe this is blackmail under the CRIMES ACT 1958 - SECT 87 although "gain" may not be validated here however you could find a lot of people who feel this might be the case that it could be a gain.

When my six year old was upset at losing, I took them to have fish n chips and a couple of dimmys and I suggest this man-baby HTFU and get the steam dimbo variety - they are so much better. What an absolute sook of a bloke.

Blackmail
(1) A person is guilty of blackmail if, with a view to gain for himself or another or with intent to cause loss to another, he makes any unwarranted demand with menaces; and for this purpose a demand with menaces is unwarranted unless the person making it does so in the belief—
(a) that he has reasonable grounds for making the demand; and
(b) that the use of the menaces is proper means of reinforcing the demand.
(2) The nature of the act or omission demanded is immaterial, and it is also immaterial whether the menaces relate to action to be taken by the person making the demand.

 

[Puddy]

Unfortunately unions seem more interested in politics than the workers.

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

Unfortunately unions seem more interested in politics than the workers.

That's not true necessarily.

Unfortunately like most things, the fundamentals behind something are absolutely a good thing - but they can and often do get railroaded by bad people and vested interests.

This has obviously happened to some unions in various circumstances over the years.

However this should never, ever be a catalyst for an ideological anti-union sentiment.


It's like saying we shouldn't have police because a small minority of them are pricks, or we don't need government because most of them are self-servicing crooks.


Corporate greed has ruined the world relatively speaking. If only politicians stood up to it like the unions have over the years.

 

[RAPPA]

Setka is a complete waste of oxygen.

 

[Sphynx]

Be that as it may, the question is will the AFL fold? I mean they're not going to sack him immediately and be seen to give into intimidation, but if the price of industrial peace and millions of dollars saved is McBurney, what do you think might happen on the quiet down the track?
Of course it could just be setka was pissed as a newt when talking to the reporter from the Oz and making hollow threats to play to his membership

Why would the AFL fold?

These aren't AFL projects

The contracts will be held between the State Government or Local Council and the elected builder in most cases.

The only scenario in which this would occur is in relation to Etihad Stadium (As an AFL asset and refurbishment works almost complete) or the Labor Government in the state in question pressuring the AFL to bow to the demands to save their own tax payer dollars and budgets.

If the CFMEU strong arm the Tasmanian Stadium Project, it's the Tasmanian Government and it's residents that pay, not the AFL.

The Adelaide training facilities redevelopment is nowhere near the project threshold for CFMEU involvement and is pure huff and puff for the media.

 

[Obeanie1]

So what is the gripe exactly?

Is the umpires boss anti unions? And has history pushing back against unions?

It isn't a great look from Setka.

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

So what is the gripe exactly?

Is the umpires boss anti unions? And has history pushing back against unions?

It isn't a great look from Setka.

He was sent in by the Liberals to stitch up the Unions. Which to some degree, he did.

And in typical Setka fashion, he has a long memory and wants retribution.

 

[jakson68]

Setka and his zombie following union nutcases, do nothing but increase the cost of infrastructure and holds the country to ransom.

The sooner we get their union loving ALP mates out of parliament the better the country will be.

Eventually somebody needs to stand up to this scumbags bullying tactics and tell him to f**k off.

 

[Sphynx]

He was sent in by the Liberals to stitch up the Unions. Which to some degree, he did.

And in typical Setka fashion, he has a long memory and wants retribution.

He wasn't "sent in by the the Liberals"

The ABCC is a regulatory watchdog for the construction industry which investigates corruption and illegal practice.


The CFMEU hate it for obvious reasons and pressure sitting federal Labour Governments to disband it whenever they get in power federally.

The Liberals regularly re-form it immediately when it's in power as it's been disbanded by the ousted ALP government. The immediate mandate is to investigate the unions and the ALP for their actions, deals and decisions whilst the body has been disbanded and with no regulatory oversight.

And around and around we go....


For all their left leaning, inclusive and rabid commentary around the incompetence and racist/far right involvement with the LPA, it's the really dark association the ALP's supporters love to ignore doesn't exist. The CFMEU is as big of a far right/racist (almost paramilitary) organization that exists in this country of that scale. They preach inclusiveness and fly first nations and rainbow flags as fronts really. They hide behind "workplace safety" in basically every action they do.


It's basically for all intensive purpose a legitimized outlaw motorcycle gang inherently involved in blackmailing and bribing one of the major political parties (and in most cases sitting government) for favours in policy and oversight.


There's no possible counter argument for the abolishment of the ABCC other than avoiding independent oversight and illegal activity.


When Setka says it "cost his workers and the industry millions", what he means is McBurney chaired an authority which actually investigated their illegal activity in which they couldn't get away with whatever they wanted.


If a state government pressure the AFL bow to this it would be an absolute disgrace.

 

[Catsace]

Found it interesting that this article was written in both the Hun and the Australian, and the Hun doesn't allow reader comments on it. Thankfully the Oz does, and it could be that Setka could have bitten off a fair bit here. It is almost a genuine threat insofar as Setka's comments go, and quite intimidatory towards McBurney. The Hawke Govt in the mid 80's deregistered the BLF, although the CFMEU is essentially it's phoenix son. Will be interesting as to how this plays out.

 

[Gavin Excell]

He was sent in by the Liberals to stitch up the Unions. Which to some degree, he did.

And in typical Setka fashion, he has a long memory and wants retribution.

Probably need more compelling rationale from Setka

 

[HairyO]

Probably need more compelling rationale from Setka

He is a thug who only knows standover tactics. There is nothing rational in this.

 

[Sphynx]

Found it interesting that this article was written in both the Hun and the Australian, and the Hun doesn't allow reader comments on it. Thankfully the Oz does, and it could be that Setka could have bitten off a fair bit here. It is almost a genuine threat insofar as Setka's comments go, and quite intimidatory towards McBurney. The Hawke Govt in the mid 80's deregistered the BLF, although the CFMEU is essentially it's phoenix son. Will be interesting as to how this plays out.

Yeah, good luck with that.

The ALP know where their bread is buttered. They are a cuckold to the power of the CFMEU.

Given their almost completely transparent intentions (case in point Setka's comments) and the involvement of organised crime in every level of it, I think it tells you all what needs to be told that with all that going on, they still can't even distance themselves from them.

This isn't the BLF either, the CFMEU has hundreds of millions in stashed cash reserves for wars with government and political parties.

The ALP's election campaigns are built off their backing.

 

[Cyclops]

He wasn't "sent in by the the Liberals"

The ABCC is a regulatory watchdog for the construction industry which investigates corruption and illegal practice.


The CFMEU hate it for obvious reasons and pressure sitting federal Labour Governments to disband it whenever they get in power federally.

The Liberals regularly re-form it immediately when it's in power as it's been disbanded by the ousted ALP government. The immediate mandate is to investigate the unions and the ALP for their actions, deals and decisions whilst the body has been disbanded and with no regulatory oversight.

And around and around we go....


For all their left leaning, inclusive and rabid commentary around the incompetence and racist/far right involvement with the LPA, it's the really dark association the ALP's supporters love to ignore doesn't exist. The CFMEU is as big of a far right/racist (almost paramilitary) organization that exists in this country of that scale. They preach inclusiveness and fly first and rainbow flags as fronts really.


It's basically for all intentsive purpose a legitimized outlaw motorcycle gang inherently involved in blackmailing and bribing one of the major political parties (and in most cases sitting government) for favours in policy and oversight.


There's no possible counter argument for the abolishment of the ABCC other than avoiding oversight and illegal activity.

CFMEU got a sweet deal during COVID, very close ties to Dan's faction. A thug union is a successful union.

That said they work closely with the master builder's cartel too. Setka is there because wealthy people want him there. If you don't like them taking bribes then gaol the Master Builder's for paying bribes.

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

He wasn't "sent in by the the Liberals"

The ABCC is a regulatory watchdog for the construction industry which investigates corruption and illegal practice.


The CFMEU hate it for obvious reasons and pressure sitting federal Labour Governments to disband it whenever they get in power federally.

The Liberals regularly re-form it immediately when it's in power as it's been disbanded by the ousted ALP government. The immediate mandate is to investigate the unions and the ALP for their actions, deals and decisions whilst the body has been disbanded and with no regulatory oversight.

And around and around we go....


For all their left leaning, inclusive and rabid commentary around the incompetence and racist/far right involvement with the LPA, it's the really dark association the ALP's supporters love to ignore doesn't exist. The CFMEU is as big of a far right/racist (almost paramilitary) organization that exists in this country of that scale. They preach inclusiveness and fly first and rainbow flags as fronts really.


It's basically for all intentsive purpose a legitimized outlaw motorcycle gang inherently involved in blackmailing and bribing one of the major political parties (and in most cases sitting government) for favours in policy and oversight.


There's no possible counter argument for the abolishment of the ABCC other than avoiding oversight and illegal activity.

So yeah, he was sent in by the Liberals to stitch up the Unions.


The issue here is that ideologies once again, take over.

Should wealthy, powerful people be able to exploit vulnerable workers? No.

Should ambitious, smart and hard working people be allowed to be entrepreneurs and run their business honestly without unions fu**ing their shit up? Yes.

The problem is that whilst most reasonable people would agree with the above, the 'left' seem to see the latter scenario as the former, and the 'right' see the former as the latter.

Neither side trusts the other in terms of the other 'taking a mile if given an inch', and rightly so, some would say - given examples of what each side done in this space over the decades.


And here we are.

 

[Upstart Swan]

Hahaha, Murdoch press has got some of you frothing at the mouth just as they intended.

 

[Sphynx]

So yeah, he was sent in by the Liberals to stitch up the Unions.


The issue here is that ideologies once again, take over.

Should wealthy, powerful people be able to exploit vulnerable workers? No.

Should ambitious, smart and hard working people be allowed to be entrepreneurs and run their business honestly without unions fu**ing their shit up? Yes.

The problem is that whilst most reasonable people would agree with the above, the 'left' seem to see the latter scenario as the former, and the 'right' see the former as the latter.

Neither side trusts the other in terms of the other 'taking a mile if given an inch', and rightly so, some would say - given examples of what each side done in this space over the decades.


And here we are.

The ABCC isn't there to exploit workers.

In the same way the ATO and FairWork aren't in place to exploit workers.

 

[Carn The Berries]

He is a thug who only knows standover tactics. There is nothing rational in this.

Campaigner should be in jail... What a nothingburger of an article.

Keep puffing you're chest out Johnny boy... You're a real hero of the common man