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AFLW 2024 - Round 9 - Indigenous Round - Chat, game threads, injury lists, team lineups and more.
Tim Watson comes out strongly in favour of cracking down on umpire dissent. Following the leaked report into the abuse of junior female umpires and female umpires in general, he has used his SEN show to give a broadside to the recalcitrant few who see umpire abuse and dissent as acceptable.
As he says, the new rule is working with frees the last coupe of weeks right down, so player attitudes can be adjusted.
It's over time that standards of respect have slipped, time for the current crop of player and fans to bring back the respect.
“It has to be stronger”: AFL great’s impassioned plea for improved umpire respect after damning report
“We’ve allowed it to be acceptable behaviour and it shouldn’t be.”www.sen.com.au
For mine it's pretty obvious the umpires stuck the middle to the moron AFL footy boss.
I'm with Carringbush on this one. We haven't seen a 50m penalty for dissent over the last couple of weeks. The talking heads are saying its because the players have adapted. Nonsense, they are still throwing the arms out, pleading with umps that the ball hit the ground, they touched it first, the player ducked etc. Only now they are not being penalized. Sure there has been some improvement in the players interactions, but if the umpires listened to the directive from Brad Scott we would have seen dozens of frees given over the last couple of weeks. We were told there was zero tolerance, arms out, question a decision and its instant 50m. The umpires are not following that interpretation anymore and good on them.Wacky conspiracy theory of the month.
Carry on
I'm with Carringbush on this one. We haven't seen a 50m penalty for dissent over the last couple of weeks. The talking heads are saying its because the players have adapted. Nonsense, they are still throwing the arms out, pleading with umps that the ball hit the ground, they touched it first, the player ducked etc. Only now they are not being penalized. Sure there has been some improvement in the players interactions, but if the umpires listened to the directive from Brad Scott we would have seen dozens of frees given over the last couple of weeks. We were told there was zero tolerance, arms out, question a decision and its instant 50m. The umpires are not following that interpretation anymore and good on them.
I just knew this would be another way for Hawthorn to be reamed by the umpires.
Yep, after a few weeks of watching Hawthorn players being penalised with fifties every time they raise an eyebrow and opposition players waving their arms and not being penalised, my fears have materialised.
I agree in principle with rules against umpire dissent. I just think we have some most inconsistent horrible umpiring in world sport... and this latest rule is just another example of how the AFL can f**k up our great game.
Congratulations Brad Scott, you muppet. You're no better than that Steve Hocking idiot.
There has only been a few missed.
You are noticing some hands out, and that's mainly players appealing for a player diving on the ball or intentionally targeting the boundary line.
It can be said those players are appealing before any umpire decision has been made.
Once the umpire says Ball up, or Play On, Or boundary throw in, or it's a Free, then the players would be dissenting if the arms are out after that.
I don't see it as any issue of note myself
To say the umpires are intentionally not paying dissent frees to shove it to Brad Scott is loopy. The players are self regulating and the dissent frees are not there to be paid
Wacky conspiracy theory of the month.
Carry on
Ok I'll have to drum it into you, because clearly you're not watchin the footy coz you are Brad Scott
Read this bit and let it sink in.
What Brad Scott said at the end of round 5 to the media is not being followed by the umpires.
Now read this bit
What Brad Scott said at the end of round 5 to the media is not being followed by the umpires.
Now this bit
What Brad Scott said at the end of round 5 to the media is not being followed by the umpires.
Now if you're STILL going to continue to argue that this rule is working- even though clearly it is not being applied like Brad Scott said it would and should be, you're either an idiot or you just won't accept you're wrong.
Or you're Brad Scott, which'd make you an idiot.
Now if you're STILL going to continue to argue that this rule is working- even though clearly it is not being applied like Brad Scott said it would and should be, you're either an idiot or you just won't accept you're wrong.Repeat the following three times: Players are not dissenting decisions given
Remember, repeat three times, out loud, say it slow.
Now if you're STILL going to continue to argue that this rule is working- even though clearly it is not being applied like Brad Scott said it would and should be, you're either an idiot or you just won't accept you're wrong.
Or you're Brad Scott, which'd make you an idiot.
It isn't an argument though, is it?
The rule is clearly working, its just a few people like yourself who see conspiracy where there is none.
and therefore is not the reason for good player behaviour.
Finally, you make the concession that player behavior has significantly improved. It has taken you a while to get there but congrats.
This has happened since the threat of 50metre penalties. Is there any other reason that can be presented for the abrupt switch in player attitudes?
Nothing else has happened to make players change, just the rule enforcement
That is the rule working as it should...
Whether or not a couple of dissent frees haven't been paid is irrelevant. Umps miss multiple rule infringements across every aspect of the game every week.
That equals arms out is 50 metres penalty.
IF everyone of those would've been paid like Brad said they should, we'd have over 100 50's a game.
No, I haven't just had an epiphany like it just happened last minute. I and everyone else keep telling you
The improvement is NOT a result of the wish of Brad Scott.
First we had your conspiracy theory with umpires banding together to give Brad Scott the finger and ignoring the dissent rule. Somehow the umpires were dissatisfied with Brad Scott, despite him fully supporting their safety, but to you, the umpires must be out to publicly disrespect him.
Then we magically had by your account, the players all behaving better, but nothing to do with the dissent rule. Yet , you can't quantify how this magical improvement happened
Now, your claim is over 100 x 50s a game NOT being paid!! OVER one hundred of them not being paid PER GAME! Not even 100 per round, which would have been funny in itself, but 100 PER GAME!!
You are claiming there is over 900 arms out frees not being paid per round?? NINE HUNDRED Arms out Dissent frees NOT being paid PER ROUND!! That is your claim?
And still , with claims such as these, it is me you call the idiot?
Come on old mate, where do you come up with this stuff?
We all know that. You and your crew are the only ones beating that drum about Brad Scott. Brad Scott is interchangeable with anyone doing his job. It is you who is fixated with Brad Scott leading some counter revolution against the fabric of the game.
The improvement is a result of the enforcement and future promise of enforcement about giving away a 50 for dissent.
'Yet , you can't quantify how this magical improvement happened '
Well the improvement hasn't happened because the umps have paid it by the letter of the law, as the AFL footy boss said it should be, but you won't concede that.
I've been saying that all along, like the majority have in this thread.
You just keep saying 'BuD Da RooL is wERkin' - when it isn't the rule that's doing the good work.
The threat of the rule worked, not the rule itself. No one has argued against that.
Probably should report you for trolling, coz you know you've been wrong all along and now trying to back pedal and twist your conversation to deflect what you've said at the beginning. You just can't concede you're wrong, and everyone can see it. Your cred is zero.