Challenge System will improve umpiring and fix dissent

[im_a_lazy_sod]

One umpire called touched and another umpire called a mark. That is when the umpires can stop the clock and confer with one another:

In our game v North last year, Taberner got paid a mark (which he juggled over the boundary line). He scored the goal. Then the umpires called a score review. To check if a player had legally marked a ball or not. So it can be done. I don’t know what the difference in this instance was other than the boundary line being a factor?

Fremantle thought they were first on the board when Matt Taberner snapped a brilliant goal from a juggled mark.

But despite the mark being paid, set and then the goal being kicked, the decision was made to review the juggled attempt.

Replays showed Taberner didn’t complete the mark – so the behind was signalled instead.

‘Absolute chaos!’ Roos pinch one-point thriller in controversial win over dour Freo

‘Absolute chaos!’ Roos pinch one-point thriller in controversial win over dour Freo

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[TY24]

A step too far for me. That's a behind for mine.

Aussie Rules - the only sport in the world where you can score without crossing the scoring line.

 

[TY24]

I don’t know what the difference in this instance was other than the boundary line being a factor?

Because the passage of play that was being reviewed here directly involved whether or not the ball was live as it crossed the scoring line.

The Aish touch today was only a marking contest, there was no question of if there was a score involved, so its not eligible to be reviewed.

 

[Dirty Bird]

Isn't the challenge by definition the ultimate show of dissent?

I think you're an idiot, let the box prove you wrong

 

[kreuze_missile]

The AFL would want to invest in some decent cameras before considering any of this.

I'm continually amused at the poor quality footage that is used to conduct the goal reviews.

My toaster takes better videos underwater.

 

[Cmarsh]

Get rid of umpires entirely. The time has come for self governance.

Who’s with me?

No one.

 

[kreuze_missile]

No one.

Agree. And the umpires are Carlton's friends.

I don't know how we would possibly self govern a double goal without them.

 

[PenrithGWS]

imagine paying fairy dissent rule to decide a game after the umpires make a wrong call in the first place.

wasting all your effort playing in the first place

absolute flogs they can be with no feel or skill for discretion.

yes to challenge

better still sack the ones deciding games with bullshit calls

 

[10571z]

Nope. Just enforce the rule that makes umpires ball it up if they bugger up.
Protecting the umpires is one thing, but pretending they're perfect tarnishes an already tarnished reputation

The afl don’t pretend they are perfect. They are quite clear mistakes are made.

 

[beema limapep]

Imagine paying fairy dissent rule to decide a game after the umpires make a wrong call in the first place.

wasting all your effort playing in the first place

absolute flogs they can be with no feel or skill for discretion.

yes to challenge

better still sack the ones deciding games with bullshit calls

Imagine the dissent threshold (and in this case the match result) being based on nothing but how 1 of 4 umpire's emotionally feels about what a player allegedly said. Which the public isn't allowed to know.

"You've probably cost us the game ump" would be a statement of fact.

Thin skinned umps pay things thick skinned umps dont.

 

[WilloTree]

Not a terrible idea. Clearly something has to change after yesterday.

Id start just by letting the umpires know we're here to watch the football, not you and your massive ego.

 

[Bagger72]

Touching a players long hair should be play on

 

[SBYM]

I'd like to challenge the premise of this thread.

 

[tigs2010]

How can the AFL fix results if captains can challenge? Silly idea.

 

[Mister Dog]

Touching a players long hair should be play on

Agree 100%
However yesterday one umpire called touched and another decided to take charge razor ray style and paid a mark.

The umpire who called it touched then froze. That’s why the Freo players were carrying on like pork chops, not because they are School boys umpiring themselves but because the officials weren’t on the same page.

Weird ending to a game.

 

[TheWeapon]

1 challenge per team per game is not going to have a major impact on extra time but it could prevent end of game scenarios like these
The technology probably needs to catch up to being more definitive to be really good
Can't think of many other sports that don't have these challenge systems except scripted ones like WWE

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Challenge system would have helped yesterday. Freo were gifted three or four goals from terrible umpiring decisions in front of goals. Balls that were handballed, no prior opportunity, bumps rather than tackles. We would have won by 4-5 goals if we could have reviewed some of those incredibly biased calls in favour of Freo.

 

[joe444]

If it hits post and comes back into play its play on.

I know this will send traditionalists into a frenzy but its a no brainer imo.

Well I agree about the no brain part of it.

Grand Final. After the siren. One point the difference. The kick hits the goal post and ... the other side win?
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PS. The ball wasn't touched by Fyfe yesterday after being kicked but before it. Umps got it right.

 

[DamoESP]

Make umpires full time and get more of them into the system.

This x 1000.

Don't need to go adding any further convoluted systems to an already convoluted set of rules.
Make umpiring a full time gig, and get more of them into the system.

 

[420]

This x 1000.

Don't need to go adding any further convoluted systems to an already convoluted set of rules.
Make umpiring a full time gig, and get more of them into the system.

Won't happen, same with the camera and chipped-ball tech. The current administrations goal is to maximise profit at the expense of the integrity of the game

 

[Daka]

Get rid of 4 Umpires go back to 2 clearly it hasn't improved the game every player knew the ball was touched around the area but the Umpires...

 

[Paul Kersey]

Well I agree about the no brain part of it.

Grand Final. After the siren. One point the difference. The kick hits the goal post and ... the other side win?
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PS. The ball wasn't touched by Fyfe yesterday after being kicked but before it. Umps got it right.

 

[go_the_dockers]

Won't happen, same with the camera and chipped-ball tech. The current administrations goal is to maximise profit at the expense of the integrity of the game

Exactly, get the NSW and QLD teams competitive but don't want them winning premierships.

Keep the vic sides dominating, maximising profit and bonus's for the execs. This is the goal.

 

[maskmcgee]

after the umpires make a wrong call in the first place.

Its actually pretty clear Fyfe pushes the ball onto the Carlton player's boot, it actually wasn't touched and was the right call.

 

[FreoFan85]

Its actually pretty clear Fyfe pushes the ball onto the Carlton player's boot, it actually wasn't touched and was the right call.

Can you seriously not look at the video two up from your post???? No one is even claiming Fyfe…