The End of Holden

[Syd]

You can get a nice car for 150 g rather than a hotted up commodore with a different badge

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I'm not really a huge GM fan, but could see myself driving one of these.

See below, compared to the US base price of $ 59,995 roughly AUD 89,545) PLUS conversion to RHD and Compliancing, $150k is about the right value for AU Launch.

2020 Chevy C8 Corvette starts at $59,995 after destination

Aim for the top trim, though, and expect to drop nearly $72,000.

www.cnet.com

 

[Hawk Dork]

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I'm not really a huge GM fan, but could see myself driving one of these.

See below, compared to the US base price of $ 59,995 roughly AUD 89,545) PLUS conversion to RHD and Compliancing, $150k is about the right value for AU Launch.

2020 Chevy C8 Corvette starts at $59,995 after destination

Aim for the top trim, though, and expect to drop nearly $72,000.

www.cnet.com

Does look nice
A mate down the road had a 71

similar to this colour too and hard top

 

[craigos]

Demand for those evaporated 10 years ago. Holden sold 94,000 Commodores at the peak, they sold 5,000 last year.

Not really comparing apples and apples though, is it. You look at the car market now compared to what it was when Holden was thriving and it's biggest competitors were Ford and Toyota. As much as Australians try to big up their nationalism I would say 90% of people would buy a cheaper comparative item rather than Aus made and that's across all markets.

 

[Hawk Dork]

Not really comparing apples and apples though, is it. You look at the car market now compared to what it was when Holden was thriving and it's biggest competitors were Ford and Toyota. As much as Australians try to big up their nationalism I would say 90% of people would buy a cheaper comparative item rather than Aus made and that's across all markets.

People stopped buying traditional large 4 door family sedans and they kept trying to make them
Toyota was making what people wanted but could make more profit making them somewhere else

 

[Procrastinator35]

Yeah and Rothschild funded it. This is just more anti Jewish rubbish.

German heavy tanks were generally powered mostly by a V12 23 litre Maybach, Maybach powered most German 1/2 tracks and tanks. Trucks were Damiler Benz or the smaller workhorse was an Opel blitz which some (it came in different sizes/engines) had a ford engine till 1937, after that they were engines similar (rip off) to a GM engine.

Since when was Ford Jewish?.....are you feeling O.K there mate?

Ford and the Führer

Research assistance provided by the Investigative Fund of The Nation Institute.

www.thenation.com

Hitler’s American Friends: Henry Ford and Nazism

How one of the most recognized names in American industry—Henry Ford—closely aligned himself with Hitler and the Nazi party in the late 1930s.

www.thehistoryreader.com

 

[Syd]

Does look nice
A mate down the road had a 71

similar to this colour too and hard top

Love the old Vette's

Was offered one of these as a Swap+cash (+$30k) for my Mustang when it first arrived.
After waiting 18-months for mine to arrive, I wasn't parting company with it within a few weeks and didn't have a spare $120k (what his best selling price was) handy.

 

[craigos]

People stopped buying traditional large 4 door family sedans and they kept trying to make them
Toyota was making what people wanted but could make more profit making them somewhere else

Isn't the Camry a large 4 door sedan?

 

[Hawk Dork]

Isn't the Camry a large 4 door sedan?

medium ?

 

[Kram]

Top 10 sellers in 2019

Toyota HiLux – 47,649
Ford Ranger – 40,960
Toyota Corolla – 30,468
Hyundai i30 – 28,378
Mitsubishi Triton – 25,819
Mazda CX-5 – 25,539
Mazda3 – 24,939
Toyota RAV4 – 24,260
Toyota LandCruiser – 23,024
Kia Cerato – 21,757

Top 10 brands in 2019

Toyota – 205,766
Mazda – 97,619
Hyundai – 86,104
Mitsubishi – 83,250
Ford – 63,303
Kia – 61,503
Nissan – 50,575
Volkswagen – 49,928
Honda – 43,868
Holden – 43,176

 

[Syd]

Isn't the Camry a large 4 door sedan?

Mid size

And FWIW, when Toyota withdrew the Corlla Wagon from Australia I was told that Oz represented less than 2% of Toyota's Global Production

 

[Procrastinator35]

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www.chevrolet.com

I'm not really a huge GM fan, but could see myself driving one of these.

See below, compared to the US base price of $ 59,995 roughly AUD 89,545) PLUS conversion to RHD and Compliancing, $150k is about the right value for AU Launch.

2020 Chevy C8 Corvette starts at $59,995 after destination

Aim for the top trim, though, and expect to drop nearly $72,000.

www.cnet.com

I could blissfully end it all in one of those Syd......Doing 300 clicks off the end of a cliff....Thelma & Louise style.

 

[craigos]

Mid size

And FWIW, when Toyota withdrew the Corlla Wagon from Australia I was told that Oz represented less than 2% of Toyota's Global Production

Call it mid size or whatever, the actual difference is very minor.

It was just way overpriced, mainly in part to the automotive union workers wanting to be paid minimum 80k per year for a non-skilled job.

 

[Hawk Dork]

Call it mid size or whatever, the actual difference is very minor.

It was just way overpriced, mainly in part to the automotive union workers wanting to be paid minimum 80k per year for a non-skilled job.

They make cars in Sweden England and Germany on high wages
Its not about wages its about building a product that people want at that price

 

[FRUMPY]

They make cars in Sweden England and Germany on high wages
Its not about wages its about building a product that people want at that price

Europe is a much bigger market. If we make cars here, small market and anything going overseas will cost a lot to transport

 

[craigos]

Europe is a much bigger market. If we make cars here, small market and anything going overseas will cost a lot to transport

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

Saddest thing about this latest development is that we probably won't get the new Corvette now either. Would have been a crazy good deal for $150k.

You can still get it, you'll just have to import it and pay for someone to do the conversion.

My mate looked at it about a decade ago with a Corvette. Much cheaper to buy in the States, about half price to what a converted one sold for here. He looked at shipping one over himself and then getting the conversion done. The cost of the conversion was about the same as the cost of buying the car, so in the end he wasn't saving anything.

He went with a BMW convertible in the end.

 

[WCErevival]

Europe is a much bigger market. If we make cars here, small market and anything going overseas will cost a lot to transport

Thats why stuff costs more to sell here too. When you're only spreading your sales across a much smaller population you need more profit per vehicle. Cars and their parts in America are so cheap because they can sell bulk.

 

[footyfan1978]

Been on the cards for a while.

Yep

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

Isn't the Camry a large 4 door sedan?

The Avalon was their large 4 door sedan.

 

[Syd]

Not sure if serious

Bigger market in terms of population and number of cars registered

 

[Syd]

You can still get it, you'll just have to import it and pay for someone to do the conversion.

My mate looked at it about a decade ago with a Corvette. Much cheaper to buy in the States, about half price to what a converted one sold for here. He looked at shipping one over himself and then getting the conversion done. The cost of the conversion was about the same as the cost of buying the car, so in the end he wasn't saving anything.

He went with a BMW convertible in the end.

Last I looked, car needed to be road registered for 12-months before it was allowed to be imported (no new vehicles), 30% Import Duty, Roughly $5k in shipping and depending on who\where converted to RHD +$40k or so. No need to convert if 25+ years old i believe as they are historical vehicles then.

There was a 'cottage industry' making good money out of importing and converting second hand Mustangs and Camaros before Ford made their first ever RHD built Mustangs

 

[Chief]

Last I looked, car needed to be road registered for 12-months before it was allowed to be imported (no new vehicles), 30% Import Duty, Roughly $5k in shipping and depending on who\where converted to RHD +$40k or so. No need to convert if 25+ years old i believe as they are historical vehicles then.

There was a 'cottage industry' making good money out of importing and converting second hand Mustangs and Camaros before Ford made their first ever RHD built Mustangs

Compared to my friend in London in the early 00's who saved money importing a brand new VW from Europe.

 

[Bomberboyokay]

 

[Syd]

Compared to my friend in London in the early 00's who saved money importing a brand new VW from Europe.

Yep, coulda\shoulda brought a BMW back from Germany in my yoof, they were half the price compared to the US and the US Army would've paid shipping for me too.. Dumb kid at the time.

 

[Syd]