Preview The evolution of our best 22 - 2016

[Pugz89]

He's alright, but I'm a big fan of Collins. I think he's ready to slot straight in.

I question how many games he'll play though. Wonder if he can play out the season or carrying that body around all year takes a toll early.

 

[Pugz89]

I'm only in favour of playing Bontempelli up forward if he's limited physically.

He's just too good in the middle to play anywhere else, otherwise.

He will be early on, given the interrupted pre-season. I'd hope by mid season he has built his tank enough to go in the middle, and hopefully peak august/september.

 

[bobs head soup]

With Crameri out, I can see us rotating our bigger bodied mids heavily through the forward line, with Bont, Wallis, Stevens and Jong (when in the team) all getting extended runs forward as part of their rotations.

 

[bontshow]

With Crameri out, I can see us rotating our bigger bodied mids heavily through the forward line, with Bont, Wallis, Stevens and Jong (when in the team) all getting extended runs forward as part of their rotations.

Macrae has mentioned he is working on his forward craft as well

 

[TedDougChris]

Yeah or we can just play Bont there... With Libba and Koby back and Jongs continual evolution the mid field is covered and Bontys lack of a pre-season mesns he can play forward and kick us 30ish..

That certainly is another option.....

 

[hazza21]

Will have a crack. Havn't followed this thread too closely so I apologise if I do a similar team to someone else. I'm going to pick the side I think will line up in Rd 1, I expect it to evolve as the season goes on (i.e Collins getting a few reserves runs first and Dale further developing)

B: Easton Wood, Fletcher Roberts*, Dale Morris
CHB: Robert Murphy, Joel Hamling*, Matthew Boyd
C: Jason Johannisen, Tom Liberatore, Jack Macrae
HF: Luke Dahlhaus, Jack Redpath, Lachie Hunter
FF: Tory Dickson, Tom Boyd, Jake Stringer
Foll: Jordan Roughead^, Marcus Bontempelli, Mitch Wallis

IC: Liam Picken, Toby Mclean, Matt Suckling, Shane Biggs#

Emer: Koby Stevens, Bailey Dale, Caleb Daniel


* I think Roberts/ Hamling will get the first crack, with Collins to come in soon. With Morris & Wood there also although undersized I think with the way we play we have enough 'tall' options to cover any threats (especially vs fremantle)
# With the way the game will evolve I expect the defenders will stay on the ground longer, meaning that most mids will need to spend time forward and vice versa. The 3 on the bench can rotate through the positions. However I felt we were one running def short so Shane Biggs gets the nod for me to rotate with the back 6, he had an underrated end to 2015.
^ Roughead is much maligned on bigfooty, but I rewatched the game vs North Melbourne the other day and he basically broke even with Goldstein (who was dominating in the weeks prior), including an important first qr goal (our only one). This toll of this game probably cost him his body for the Lions game and the final. If he can get his body right, I see him as the most versatile ruckman we have. Redpath/Boyd to give him chop outs, I expect both to play now that Crameri is out.


Let me know what you think.

 

[Pugz89]

Will have a crack. Havn't followed this thread too closely so I apologise if I do a similar team to someone else. I'm going to pick the side I think will line up in Rd 1, I expect it to evolve as the season goes on (i.e Collins getting a few reserves runs first and Dale further developing)

B: Easton Wood, Fletcher Roberts*, Dale Morris
CHB: Robert Murphy, Joel Hamling*, Matthew Boyd
C: Jason Johannisen, Tom Liberatore, Jack Macrae
HF: Luke Dahlhaus, Jack Redpath, Lachie Hunter
FF: Tory Dickson, Tom Boyd, Jake Stringer
Foll: Jordan Roughead^, Marcus Bontempelli, Mitch Wallis

IC: Liam Picken, Toby Mclean, Matt Suckling, Shane Biggs#

Emer: Koby Stevens, Bailey Dale, Caleb Daniel


* I think Roberts/ Hamling will get the first crack, with Collins to come in soon. With Morris & Wood there also although undersized I think with the way we play we have enough 'tall' options to cover any threats (especially vs fremantle)
# With the way the game will evolve I expect the defenders will stay on the ground longer, meaning that most mids will need to spend time forward and vice versa. The 3 on the bench can rotate through the positions. However I felt we were one running def short so Shane Biggs gets the nod for me to rotate with the back 6, he had an underrated end to 2015.
^ Roughead is much maligned on bigfooty, but I rewatched the game vs North Melbourne the other day and he basically broke even with Goldstein (who was dominating in the weeks prior), including an important first qr goal (our only one). This toll of this game probably cost him his body for the Lions game and the final. If he can get his body right, I see him as the most versatile ruckman we have. Redpath/Boyd to give him chop outs, I expect both to play now that Crameri is out.


Let me know what you think.

He didn't break even with Goldy, he towelled him up

 

[TedDougChris]

I question how many games he'll play though. Wonder if he can play out the season or carrying that body around all year takes a toll early.

History shows that the first year players suffer badly when the heat of game competition kicks in. Look at Clay Smith, absolutely massive game in Rd 1 - subbed off with cramps midway through the third quarter. Now imagine that you are another 20-odd Kg and spent far less time running, and more time in the gym and in strength contests.... I think Collins will need to be eased into game time, although Adams is older and has played against men before....

 

[BEaston]

Probably the biggest question mark on our whole season is Roughead's body. How he holds up goes a long way in determining our whole structure.

 

[Mofra]

B: Easton Wood, Fletcher Roberts*, Dale Morris
CHB: Robert Murphy, Joel Hamling*, Matthew Boyd
C: Jason Johannisen, Tom Liberatore, Jack Macrae
HF: Luke Dahlhaus, Jack Redpath, Lachie Hunter
FF: Tory Dickson, Tom Boyd, Jake Stringer
Foll: Jordan Roughead^, Marcus Bontempelli, Mitch Wallis

IC: Liam Picken, Toby Mclean, Matt Suckling, Shane Biggs#

Emer: Koby Stevens, Bailey Dale, Caleb Daniel

That's a pretty good looking side for mine - only questions are the ruck issue (Minson or Roughy) and whether we play both Boyd & Redpath in the same side. If we don't Stevens comes in, otherwise Biggs might make way for Stevens anyway. Certainly a good problem to have.

 

[Totty tech]

Sorry you blokes only my 2nd post only allowed to reply at the moment unable to start my own blog but I want to ask a question about rookie players now that Cramers is out. My question is are we going to take 2 from our rookie list for Smith also.

 

[Ozil]

Sorry you blokes only my 2nd post only allowed to reply at the moment unable to start my own blog but I want to ask a question about rookie players now that Cramers is out. My question is are we going to take 2 from our rookie list for Smith also.

My best guess is we'll elevate Adcock and bank the other upgrade, seeing as Roarke Smith is injured and both Lynch and Goetz are unlikely to be needed.

 

[House_of_Dahl]

Maybe Roughy plays forward with Crameri out. As well as some descent ruck time and option to swing back

 

[princey]

Would Josh Dunkley's name be put up for contention if the taller mids like Bont play forward?

 

[LittleG]

Would Josh Dunkley's name be put up for contention if the taller mids like Bont play forward?

Doesn't have enough endurance. Next season he should be good but doubt he gets more than 2 games.

 

[Pugz89]

Doesn't have enough endurance. Next season he should be good but doubt he gets more than 2 games.

Hasn't he been playing senior football since like 15? Surely his endurance can't be THAT bad. Would think he gets more than 2 games tbh.

 

[GreatSouthWest]

Did Dunks play a fair few games for Richmond at VFL level?

 

[Yojimbo]

Did Dunks play a fair few games for Richmond at VFL level?

Yes mainly as a half forward, low possession tally but sound in his
movement and ability to find space.

 

[LittleG]

Hasn't he been playing senior football since like 15? Surely his endurance can't be THAT bad. Would think he gets more than 2 games tbh.

The lack of rotations this year would make taking him into a game more difficult than last year.
I really like his recruitment but he is one for next year.

 

[TempleKelvington]

I really want us to be able to have 2 KP forwards this year. It will be dictated by form of course. My best 22 has Redpath in with Crameri, so the Crameri replacement for me is a mid size forward.

If Campbell stands up as the number 1 ruck, or Will, perhaps, roughy will be an good CHF and ruck relief.

Or big Jack takes CHF, Boyd covers the ruck and roughy is the number 1 ruck. There are a few possible combinations, but I think for us to improve we need our big guys to stand up, which means we will have 2 KP forwards in 2016. Fingers crossed.

 

[TiAn_]

Morris Roughead Boyd
Biggs Wood Johannisen
Macrae Bontempelli Dahlhaus
Stevens Stringer Murphy
Dickson Boyd Honeychurch
Minson Wallis Libba
Suckling Hamling Picken McLean

This is the team I like, not what I think we'll necessarily do.

 

[Super Hans]

Dannnnnnnnnn. Thought you might find these stats interesting after we were talking about Macrae going from outside player to more of an inside role last season.

Macrae 2014:
Clearances 2.2, Tackles 4.1, Contested Possessions 7.9 (29.4%), K:H 53.7% Kicks, D/E 73.1%

Macrae 2015:
Clearances 4.5, Tackles 5.6, Contested Possessions 10.4 (39.4%), K:H 51.8% Kicks, D/E 69.9%

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

Dannnnnnnnnn. Thought you might find these stats interesting after we were talking about Macrae going from outside player to more of an inside role last season.

Macrae 2014:
Clearances 2.2, Tackles 4.1, Contested Possessions 7.9 (29.4%), K:H 53.7% Kicks, D/E 73.1%

Macrae 2015:
Clearances 4.5, Tackles 5.6, Contested Possessions 10.4 (39.4%), K:H 51.8% Kicks, D/E 69.9%

The best part of that is how small the decrease in his efficiency stats are even though he's drastically improved his work around the contest. Wins a lot more contested ball but responded with only a mild decrease in kick-to-handball ratio and disposal efficiency. You expect to see a decrease somewhat proportionate to the difference in UP: DP ratio but those drops are miniscule in comparison.

Not sure if you got these stats from there but I'm waiting on my Prospectus for this year; Macrae's one of the players I'm very interested in reviewing the more advanced stats for. Looking for them to support or dispute my hypothesis that Macrae was more, or at least similarly efficient with ball in hand despite being under considerably more pressure on average in 2015. Just so comfortable working the ball out of congestion and that's where his best position is long-term, in my opinion.

 

[grubdog]

Can anyone see Clay Smith playing most of the season?
I see Toby McLean becoming best 22 from around round 6.
Jack Redpath will need his shoulder (?) injury to fully recover as I believe he is off contract next year and only in the side to (1) fill in for Tom Boyd until he is functioning as required, and (2) ruck backup for Will, Tom Campbell and Roughead. I can not see Jack, Will, Tom C, Tom B and Jordan all in the one side, but I am pleased they all play for us.

 

[murphy2bedabest]

I think Campbell will be given first crack in the ruck, he is flying and at 24 he is just starting to come into his own as a ruckman, a real breakout chance this year, and SuperCoach target.

If this happens I can see Roughead starting at FB, but only to try and ease Adams or Collins into the side, give it a month or so then we could see Collins play there.

We are not going to just replace Crameri, but I think adding libba will lead to a domino affect. It will push the likes of Wallis Bont macrae Dahl hunter ect forward for longer, if they can all add 3-7 goals this season, that will help cover Crameri

Suckling is huge for us, add the likes of Dale Webb McLean maybe murphy being that final kick into F50 is only going to help Boyd/redpaths output. If we can get easy goals from Boyd (marks inside F50 ) that is going to improve our scoring.



I would love us to set up like this at some point, but just remember that beveridge loves changing things up.

Morris Collins wood
Boyd Roberts murphy
JJ Wallis macrae
Hunter Roughead Stringer
Dahl Boyd Dale
Campbell libba bonti

Picken McLean suckling Biggs