Can you honestly tell me you are not employed by the AFC??
Review The good, the bad, the shat - vs Fremantle R3 2024
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Southerntakeover
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That game was appalling. If Freo played well we would have been obliterated. I honestly think we could lose by 80 points on Thursday night as the Melbourne standard vs Port was amazing at times.
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Come on mate, you honestly think someone would employ it?
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That's BS and you know it.
Compare Soligo to Gulden.
Drafted at similar spots in their drafts (Gulden a year earlier).
Similar heights, build, play style.
Sydney backed him in from the start, in the middle, has played him every game he is fit in, and he almost won a Brownlow in the same year that Soligo is in this year.
Gulden's played 71 games (that's with a 6 week injury in his rookie season). 18, 25, 24 games. Has he had quiet games? Absolutely.
Gulden has not been dropped on form once. Horse, and Sydney saw his talent, and backed him in. Surprise surprise, he has paid his team back in spades.
Soligo has played 40 - 16, 21, 3. Has been dropped for quiet games. Used as the sub on multiple occasions.
Lest we forget being subbed out of the 1pt loss to the Pies - Nicks' words?
"I'd love to have that time again"
Soligo, when used correctly, has shown similar, if not slightly less levels of promise and talent than Gulden. But we refuse to persist with making him a permanent midfielder, permanently in the side.
It's absolutely damning and completely inarguable.
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Nah we'll have one of those honourable "brave" performances against a top team, I have absolutely no doubt about it. We will lose by 6-15pts, be competitive and everyone will be drinking their own bathwater for the next 12 months. Feel good contract extensions all round.
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Cant blame the umpires
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The fix is in. Gearing up for another 2016.
I reckon Rash must have done a Rory Atkins and moved Nick's water bottles
Carlton absolutely being set up to win. The VFL will love it. Feel good story of the year etc...
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Laird and Smith. Toss it on the boot and get it 30m away regardless of what's there. Isn't there a set distance where any kick longer than that is considered "effective" as long as it goes to a contest? Seems like both of their focus.
Except I was talking about Rachele who transitioned into the midfield in his 2nd year, Soligo already play midfield minutes during his 1st year.
If I was then I would have played both Rachele and Rankine in the center against GCS lol.
I guess he forgot about Rachele averaging 20 disposal and kicked 10.10 in the midfield for those 7 weeks lol.
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A little unfair.
First 2 years are pretty similar. Soligo played 37 regular season games. Gulden played 39 regular season games.
Year 1:
Gulde -18 games, 15 disposals per game, 28 total CBA's attended, 4 centre clearances, 16 stoppage clearances Averaged 79% TOG
Soligo-16 games, 14.6 disposals per game, 63 total CBA's attended. 4 centre clearances, 24 stoppage clearances Averaged 74.7% TOG
Year 2:
Gulden-21 games, 19.2 disposals per game, 71 total CBA's attended, 10 centre clearances, 37 stoppage clearances Averaged 80% TOG
Soligo-21 games, 16.5 disposals per game, 115 total CBA's attended, 19 centre clearances, 34 stoppage clearance, Averaged 76.7% TOG
The big difference is that Gulden took a massive step in 2023 his third year attending 242 CBA's and had a huge year. If Soligo's time in the middle from the last game is anything to go by - he will have a chance at a breakout year.
Only just had a chance to watch the game in full. No emotion.
There's a lot wrong with our team right now. Pretty much all the main components are not working: Skills, transition (ball movement from defence) and forward entries. I don't think there is any line that can claim majority of responsibility either. Defenders, midfielders and forwards are all guilty of the above. I think it's easy to roll out 'midfield sucks'. Imo in reality it's whole of field that's letting us down and the only area that should have some leniency are our young defenders.
The only positives so far are Soligo and Michalaney. I honestly think Michalaney is our best player right now with Dawson out of form. He can almost do no wrong and has improved from his debut year.
Skills:
Some of the worst skills I've seen from the crows. Turnovers from just about every player leading to goals or missed opportunities going forward. It's hard to blame our forwards too much. Not sure what happened in the off season. Poor decision making exacerbates this.
Ball movement:
We were always keen on short kicks to try and keep possession and open up play, the main difference this season is that we lack overlap run from those short kicks. We have very few handball receives from these short passes that typically opens up the play for us (Milera, Hinge etc.). Hence the movement is stop start and ends up stagnant as the oppo gets players back. Where has the overlap run gone?
Forward entries:
Disgusting. Poor skill, decision making and no cohesion. Forwards struggling to find space and when they do, we can't find them. The logical explanation would be coaching change. Walker looking old again obviously doesn't help.
Very hard to watch us atm and very little optimism. The season looks over and nicks hasn't exactly given us reason to think he'll recognise this and turn the year into development rather than desperation for wins. We need to bring in some fresh players and keep them in. Stick with young talent even if not in the best form (rather than keep selecting Murphy, McHenry, Smith and Sholl).
There's a lot wrong with our team right now. Pretty much all the main components are not working: Skills, transition (ball movement from defence) and forward entries. I don't think there is any line that can claim majority of responsibility either. Defenders, midfielders and forwards are all guilty of the above. I think it's easy to roll out 'midfield sucks'. Imo in reality it's whole of field that's letting us down and the only area that should have some leniency are our young defenders.
The only positives so far are Soligo and Michalaney. I honestly think Michalaney is our best player right now with Dawson out of form. He can almost do no wrong and has improved from his debut year.
Skills:
Some of the worst skills I've seen from the crows. Turnovers from just about every player leading to goals or missed opportunities going forward. It's hard to blame our forwards too much. Not sure what happened in the off season. Poor decision making exacerbates this.
Ball movement:
We were always keen on short kicks to try and keep possession and open up play, the main difference this season is that we lack overlap run from those short kicks. We have very few handball receives from these short passes that typically opens up the play for us (Milera, Hinge etc.). Hence the movement is stop start and ends up stagnant as the oppo gets players back. Where has the overlap run gone?
Forward entries:
Disgusting. Poor skill, decision making and no cohesion. Forwards struggling to find space and when they do, we can't find them. The logical explanation would be coaching change. Walker looking old again obviously doesn't help.
Very hard to watch us atm and very little optimism. The season looks over and nicks hasn't exactly given us reason to think he'll recognise this and turn the year into development rather than desperation for wins. We need to bring in some fresh players and keep them in. Stick with young talent even if not in the best form (rather than keep selecting Murphy, McHenry, Smith and Sholl).
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I think the overarching issue is a drastic change in gameplan based on a knee jerk reaction we need to be more defensive.
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This is what happens when we carry a few players with average skills at best. When the better skilled players aren’t firing then the whole team is shit. No-one playing Aussie Rules footy at the highest level should miss easy field kick targets on a regular basis but Laird and Keays do. Staggering how they get games.
Keays has been the least of our worries this year. There have been more highly skilled players missing more targets than Keays.
I think in general we've got a decent skilled team.
Dawson, Rankine, Tex, Fogarty, Soligo, Michalaney, Milera, Jones, Rachele, Worrell, Sholl, Hinge and Keane are all from good to elite field kicks normally.
Laird and Crouch are okay knowing their limitations. Same with Borlase and Butts. So long as they stay within their limitations they're okay.
McHenry, Smith and Pedlar are hit and miss. Murphy average and Keays poor. I would be weeding out this group except for Pedlar.
Don't think anyone is blaming them this year. I can't say the standard of umpiring has been particularly high, but it seems to be consistent and "goes both ways".
We've just sucked at football this year...
Umpires have absolutely nothing to do with what we are dishing
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I was at the game against Geelong and watched the replay against Freo. One thing stands out to me. Our midfielder’s first choice is to handball in close inviting more pressure. Watch Geelong and they pressure the receiver. We are currently lacking midfielders with evasive craft and speed. I saw Soligo just take the ball and explode out of the centre ONCE. Rankine did the same ONCE. My view is we have gone too predictable, look slow and without clean ball movement out of the midfield. We don’t move the ball out of the “pressure” zone so our flankers and wingers can overlap run. I’m thinking it’s by design to avoid going head to head with the best midfields and resultant blowout scores.
Do not expect any miracles (even a win) unless there is a dynamic shift in our midfield methods. The sad fact is new ruck rules have helped ROB become a force in the centre and at ball ups despite his obvious skill set around the ground.
Do not expect any miracles (even a win) unless there is a dynamic shift in our midfield methods. The sad fact is new ruck rules have helped ROB become a force in the centre and at ball ups despite his obvious skill set around the ground.
It works for Carlton so why not us? We are the new Carlton. Bloody hell.
