Agree on all fronts.
Talking of home grown talents, Freo should be targeting Nathan Wilson from GWS. He's a former Peel kid and a cool, calm and collected user of the footy.
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Agree on all fronts.
Talking of home grown talents, Freo should be targeting Nathan Wilson from GWS. He's a former Peel kid and a cool, calm and collected user of the footy.
If APearce turns out to be half as good as Maca,I'll be happy.
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Any former peel kid are welcome.
I would melt so unbelievably hard. Oh my god.
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In hindsight I think I took Duffman for granted a bit.
His lack of physicality used to bug me, but what I'd give for a few guys who could kick the ball like that right now!
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Aww yay! Isn't this sweet?
This has got to be a joke. Emotional intelligence? I thought Kirky left Fremantle.
How is this a good thing?! I don't give two ****s about Ross Lyon the person. Coaches get paid so handsomely because it's such a high stress job. They get minimal sleep, they're always exhausted, they have to think a lot, pressure ultimately goes down to them... I don' give two shits if he's relaxed, and the idea of it being a good thing that he's relaxed because we're losing is insane! Seriously! It's like saying you're happy we lose a final so the players can all go on holiday a few weeks earlier... far out. I want him to succeed and I want him to be coaching us to the ultimate success (not that he was ever going to), but now we're commenting on the coach's demeanour and giving off a 'aw as long as he's happy' vibe?
**** him. If he's happy and light hearted when we're losing... how is that a good sign?
Would you be happy if the captain was doing Akermanis handstands after a loss?
Would you be happy for a player if he played like shit and was smiling all game?
How is this somehow a positive thing? How does this really show Lyon as a cut-throat, serious coach? He should be embarrassed and even more under the pump, more in anguish, more sleepless, more overworked... not less!
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Is it a bit of a cockroach tbh. How can one man survive the uprising of the Steves and the mass cleanouts we had in coaching between Harvey and Lyon? It's suss the way he's managed to withhold this extremely important position despite the many changes at the high end of the club, and the totally average products of his work.
Team can't press up as much if you can kick it 60m and score easy goals out the back?
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If we can get bootsma , mora is more damaging replacing d.Pearce role.
FWIW I was told this by an ex east freo player who still has contacts with the club.https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/afl/a/31443644/inside-the-wafl-shark-shines-with-screamer/
This doesn't help my melts. This kid would have close to 50 games by now & would be adding so much class on the outside
Simpsons attitude this season has not always been great. He still has all the same problems he had with freo in the first place. It's not just a cultural thing, when things aren't going his way he spits the dummy. I've heard it's already happened this season at east freo.
The mistake was not delisting him but drafting him in the first place.
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The only advantage to being so bad is that we will make other teams nervous. I mean, who is going to want to lose to us?
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Simpson is a tool of the highest order. Was always a high risk high reward pick.
OK we have all had a melt down but it should not be all doom and gloom .Mundy back this week and the selectors giving Grey and Crozier consecutive matches .
Morabito is only a couple more WAFL games away from playing in the league team .Clarke has the capacity to be our No1 ruckman until Sandi returns
Meima please no to Bootsma ,he is a one trick pony and just because the Peel crowd give him the BIG HOOF when ever he kicks the ball does not mean that he is the player to replace McPharlin or Johnson . He goes missing for long periods in games and the coaches are constantly yelling at him to wake up .
I've noted the number of posters saying that we don't have a HBF'er that can kick ,break lines and kick goals "STEVEN HILL " FOLKS .RTB has had to use him in the mid field until Bennell is ready to go but he is far more damaging off the HBF. and when Morabito is ready to play I would have him on the other HBF .Sheridan and Sutcliffe should be given more time in the midfield .Sheridan as the outside mid and Sutty inside .Both have pace and they are good with the ball in hand .
Morabito is only a couple more WAFL games away from playing in the league team .Clarke has the capacity to be our No1 ruckman until Sandi returns
Meima please no to Bootsma ,he is a one trick pony and just because the Peel crowd give him the BIG HOOF when ever he kicks the ball does not mean that he is the player to replace McPharlin or Johnson . He goes missing for long periods in games and the coaches are constantly yelling at him to wake up .
I've noted the number of posters saying that we don't have a HBF'er that can kick ,break lines and kick goals "STEVEN HILL " FOLKS .RTB has had to use him in the mid field until Bennell is ready to go but he is far more damaging off the HBF. and when Morabito is ready to play I would have him on the other HBF .Sheridan and Sutcliffe should be given more time in the midfield .Sheridan as the outside mid and Sutty inside .Both have pace and they are good with the ball in hand .
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Hill isnt a halfback. He plays well in the middle sorry to the people that cant figure it out. I agree Shero and Suttie arent very good down there either, hence why you are looking for new possies for them.
Hill is far more damaging that either Sutcliffe or Sheridan .He has proved that this time and time again . Sheridan and Sutcliffe have the speed that we need in the midfield ,both would be an upgrade on Barlow and D Pearce IMHO .Both have big tanks .We need to see what they can do .Mundy was a backman until he went into the midfield so why not give them a go .
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Zac Clarke has no capacity to be our No1 ruckman, when is the last decent game he played. If there was a scope for mid season delistings he would be No1. The ironic thing is we could bring David Hale into the team and we would beat all of our existing ruckman (bar Sandi) hands down.
When he was our No. 1 ruckman.
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You do know next year is doing to be worse?
This sort of short term thinking is trying to turn a trick you really can't. It's very hard to reassemble a side from bottom four to top eight in one off-season. You have to look at the fact of an older Mundy, a reportedly potentially division within the playing group, Pav, Sandilands, and Johnson likely retiring, and guys like Spurr and Ibbo (as good a servants as they have been) being a bit too old. We are at a rebuild stage. When you're here, you don't rush it, and you do it properly and accept your fate and then go about it in a brand new way; a rebuild is a chance at scrapping the old mentality, bringing in new ideas. That's what the Bullies have done and it's worked fairly well for them. Even Port went okay after getting in Hinkley and changing their mentality.
You can't just put patches over things. That works while you're in premiership mode and you're Hawthorn. But at this stage it will just delay the inevitable; at best we'll get like two seasons of finishing seventh and sixth before the inevitable bottom out comes.
Don't rush it. Accept the reality. Lyon has left it a season too late to blood the needed excitement, rawness, and skill of Weller and even Brady Grey.
When Sandi and Griffin were both injured he carried the ruck and played very well but since his own injury to his knee he has struggled to get back to that level . Clarke IMO has the ability to play and once he is able to stay on the park he will perform .He is the best of our 2 youngest ruckmen .Griffin is 30 ,Sandi is 32 and Hannath is way behind all 3 of them . We spent all that time trying to develop Moller for
If you had been down at any of the Peel games last year or this year you would have seen what the younger players offered as opposed to the players being selected in the teams .
The KIDS where battling to run out WAFL games last year .Those that were performing and offered better performance that guys in the league team got games .
No one was screaming play the kids in the first 11 games of last year .Only when Fyfe got injured were people talking about WAFL players . I was one that stated that we had to rest older players through the season but Bond and Co decided that they wanted to finish on top of the ladder .
The big difference between last year and this year is injuries to 4 of our best players and the major recruit has not been able to play because of his calf .
The rule changes that has broken the RTB game plan is the 10 metre separation rule and the reduction of rotations to 90 .
Ross is smart enough to realize that the players on our list and game plan was not going to win a Grand Final which is why he recruited Rock ,Hale and Guerra . Rock was with Ross at St Kilda . Guerra and Hale because of their knowledge of the Hawthorn game plan ,structures and training methods .
The players during preseason did a lot more ball work and the weights program was very different to previous years .
Mcpharlin is the very big difference between the team from last year to this year as well .
I think everyone will have to settle down and take a big breath . yes we are going to loose more games and yes when Sandi ,Bennell ,Fyfe ,Johnson ,Morabito and Mundy are all on the ground in good shape this will be a far better team than right now .
YES I want RTB and Bond to play the kids while those guys are in recoup .YES I want players tried in different positions than normal BUT they have to keep playing the new game plan and if the players don't have the skills to play it get rid of them and recruit kids , mature age players and trade till we have the players on our list that have the skill .
I repeat Clarkson started building this team 8 years ago ,we are week 5 in our first year .
Silent you are a classic know it all that seriously has no idea of what a good coach looks like . Ross is rated as being in the top 3 best coaches in the league ,not by us the supporters but by every sports commentator in the media .He is also rated very highly by all current and past coaches .
If you had been down at any of the Peel games last year or this year you would have seen what the younger players offered as opposed to the players being selected in the teams .
The KIDS where battling to run out WAFL games last year .Those that were performing and offered better performance that guys in the league team got games .
No one was screaming play the kids in the first 11 games of last year .Only when Fyfe got injured were people talking about WAFL players . I was one that stated that we had to rest older players through the season but Bond and Co decided that they wanted to finish on top of the ladder .
The big difference between last year and this year is injuries to 4 of our best players and the major recruit has not been able to play because of his calf .
The rule changes that has broken the RTB game plan is the 10 metre separation rule and the reduction of rotations to 90 .
Ross is smart enough to realize that the players on our list and game plan was not going to win a Grand Final which is why he recruited Rock ,Hale and Guerra . Rock was with Ross at St Kilda . Guerra and Hale because of their knowledge of the Hawthorn game plan ,structures and training methods .
The players during preseason did a lot more ball work and the weights program was very different to previous years .
Mcpharlin is the very big difference between the team from last year to this year as well .
I think everyone will have to settle down and take a big breath . yes we are going to loose more games and yes when Sandi ,Bennell ,Fyfe ,Johnson ,Morabito and Mundy are all on the ground in good shape this will be a far better team than right now .
YES I want RTB and Bond to play the kids while those guys are in recoup .YES I want players tried in different positions than normal BUT they have to keep playing the new game plan and if the players don't have the skills to play it get rid of them and recruit kids , mature age players and trade till we have the players on our list that have the skill .
I repeat Clarkson started building this team 8 years ago ,we are week 5 in our first year .
Yep. Exactly this.
When Clarkson took over in 2005, the Hawks had 5 wins for the season. By 2007, they had moved up to 5th place on the ladder.
He culled the dead wood and went with youth, but recruited experienced players well to cover holes.
It wont happen over night, but it will happen
Agree. He somehow was the kind of player you only notice now when he isn't there anymore...
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