Review The most idiotic media call about Hawthorns rebuild

[The Jet From Poowong]

Damian's dribble

Damian Barrett Says He’s Not Backing Away From His Hawthorn “Form Of Tanking” Comments

Triple M Footy's Damian Barrett says that he stands by his comments about Hawthorn’s list management strategy being a “form of tanking”.

articles.listnr.com

Leigh's wisdom

Joey Says Sam Mitchell Won't Be Coach When Hawthorn Next Play Finals

Joey Montagna has delivered a scathing assessment of a Hawthorn rebuild that he says will take "closer to 10" years to complete.

articles.listnr.com

Kingy's rubbish

Has Sam Mitchell “committed professional suicide” as Hawks enter deep rebuild?

“We love Sam Mitchell ... That’s why I don’t want this to be an issue for him in 18 months time.”

www.sen.com.au

Kane's early call

Great's ruthless call on disillusioned Hawks

'Needed to happen three years ago'

www.nine.com.au

 

[A Diakos]

Top post

Holding them to account

 

[Sixpence]

Why would anyone vote for Cornes? He's our biggest fan. He was on us before anyone else was.

That dickhead, Barrett is the correct answer to this question.

 

[TassieGrown]

Haha great thread

 

[Ka Norkers]

Damien Brainless basically accused Hawthorn of cheating, Andy Gowers should have sent his nonsense spoken and written off to the lawyers.
Still, no way you will ever see an apology from him, dumb people are always too simple-minded to see the big picture of their actions.

Not sure that article is entirely fair on Cornes, that was written in the Clarko era, TBH I think he's been pretty patient and accepting of what Hawthorn has been trying to achieve.

The one you left out is Caroline Vomit, that old bag has been pontificating about how wrong the Hawks have got it for over two years, an absolute know-nothing again pretending to have an intellect more than double what it actually is.

 

[Mercy Seat]

Why would anyone vote for Cornes? He's our biggest fan. He was on us before anyone else was.

That dickhead, Barrett is the correct answer to this question.

Kane said some batshit stuff about us up until about 18 months ago. His twitter would blow up every time we had a win. Done a complete 180 since.

 

[Sixpence]

Kane said some batshit stuff about us up until about 18 months ago. His twitter would blow up every time we had a win. Done a complete 180 since.

Yeh, but again, he was the first to get on us. That gets him a reprieve.

 

[Mercy Seat]

Damo for me

 

[KermitJagger]

Don't think there's a good argument for anyone other than Purple because, if pressed, he will still try to defend it as tanking by using weasely words about what constitutes tanking.

Second worst is clearly Montagna because of how late in the piece he decided to switch up his opinion.

With Kingy I kinda don't care, and with Kane he changed his mind with more information and has been solid on us even through the earlier parts of this season, which is respectable. So those guys aren't close to the worst imo.

 

[QuietB]

There is good money in hating Hawthorn. **** them all.

 

[Stevie80]

Kane was spot on. Said the Hawks were going nowhere with Clarko. Credit to Mitchell and the team for how quick they have all turned it around.

 

[Roddy]

Who said 'Tassie will win a flag before Hawthorn do"?

The worst thing about it is that people blindly and mindlessly swallow it. The second Barrett said Hawthorn was 'tanking' was the same second there was a thread on the main board asking 'is Hawthorn tanking?'

Many people are unable to distinguish media propaganda, clickbait and bullshit from fact and reality...

 

[The Jet From Poowong]

Who said 'Tassie will win a flag before Hawthorn do"?

The worst thing about it is that people blindly and mindlessly swallow it. The second Barrett said Hawthorn was 'tanking' was the same second there was a thread on the main board asking 'is Hawthorn tanking?'

Many people are unable to distinguish media propaganda, clickbait and bullshit from fact and reality...

Jonno Brown - good point

 

[Hawk1986]

It’s clearly “Big Call Montana” (as the MMM boys call him) for me.

 

[Mercy Seat]

Kane was spot on. Said the Hawks were going nowhere with Clarko. Credit to Mitchell and the team for how quick they have all turned it around.

He said that we had absolutely no youth and the rebuild would take 10 years. Also said Sam would get sacked before he got a chance to even show if he could coach or not.

He also criticised us for getting “nothing” from the Mitchell and JOM trades and at the start of last year said that we were telling the world “we had no hope and are tanking”.

Then a few rounds into the 23 season he was calling us the most “irrelevant” team in the comp.

Did a complete 180 since then and rightly so but let’s not have short memories.

 

[Billyc]

People are allowed to be wrong in their opinions about future events. Most people rarely tip 9/9 week to week, let alone projecting well into the future. It's the digging in and defending those opinions once they are proven wrong that demonstrates true idiocy. On that note, this isn't even a contest, and Barrett wins comfortably. Cornes has changed his opinion with new evidence, which is fine.

 

[Tomohawks]

He said that we had absolutely no youth and the rebuild would take 10 years. Also said Sam would get sacked before he got a chance to even show if he could coach or not.

He also criticised us for getting “nothing” from the Mitchell and JOM trades and at the start of last year said that we were telling the world “we had no hope and are tanking”.

Then a few rounds into the 23 season he was calling us the most “irrelevant” team in the comp.

Did a complete 180 since then and rightly so but let’s not have short memories.

After he interviewed Mitch last year he completely changed his narrative about the Hawks and said Mitch was so impressive about his vision and how he will implement it. Since then he has been a big fan boy of how we're going about it with the mastermind coach at the helm. He loves Mitch and rightly so.

 

[Dipper]

I just watched King today saying we have nothing bar our clearance game.

 

[WatWouldCyrilDo]

‘Tassie’s gonna win a flag first’: Fears AFL battlers face years of pain amid ‘worst time’ to rebuild

‘Tassie’s gonna win a flag first’: AFL battlers face years of pain in ‘worst time’ to rebuild

www.foxsports.com.au

“The way it stands now, Tasmania are gonna win a premiership before Hawthorn.”
- Jonathan Brown

 

[cryptor]

In order of those listed...

1. Damien Barrett. Made a shocking call and then repeatedly doubled down with every new piece of compelling evidence to the contrary. Extra bad because he's meant to be the chief writer for the leagues own media.

2. Leigh Montagna

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. People will always be late to the party. This pigeon was the first one to arrive but then left early and now spends all his time trying to convince people the party doesn't exist.

3. David King. Forms most of his opinions based on Champion Data so can't really blame him for thinking we'd cut too deep. He also tends to just say the opposite of what people expect.

4. Kane Cornes. Rated our list pretty accurately when Sam took over but underestimated the potential of the youth. His main criticisms were always with what Clarko had left Sam. The fact Sam has been able to turn it around so quickly is why he rates him so highly. He's an opinionated loud mouth but he's mostly been right and owned up where he was wrong.

 

[Nugett]

Damien Brainless basically accused Hawthorn of cheating, Andy Gowers should have sent his nonsense spoken and written off to the lawyers.
Still, no way you will ever see an apology from him, dumb people are always too simple-minded to see the big picture of their actions.

Not sure that article is entirely fair on Cornes, that was written in the Clarko era, TBH I think he's been pretty patient and accepting of what Hawthorn has been trying to achieve.

The one you left out is Caroline Vomit, that old bag has been pontificating about how wrong the Hawks have got it for over two years, an absolute know-nothing again pretending to have an intellect more than double what it actually is.

This is from last year…

 

[Stevie80]

He said that we had absolutely no youth and the rebuild would take 10 years. Also said Sam would get sacked before he got a chance to even show if he could coach or not.

He also criticised us for getting “nothing” from the Mitchell and JOM trades and at the start of last year said that we were telling the world “we had no hope and are tanking”.

Then a few rounds into the 23 season he was calling us the most “irrelevant” team in the comp.

Did a complete 180 since then and rightly so but let’s not have short memories.

If you go back 3-4 years I think most posters on this forum were saying the same thing.

Again, huge credit to Mitchell and all involved for turning it around so well so quick.

 

[KermitJagger]

In order of those listed...

1. Damien Barrett. Made a shocking call and then repeatedly doubled down with every new piece of compelling evidence to the contrary. Extra bad because he's meant to be the chief writer for the leagues own media.

2. Leigh Montagna. People will always be late to the party. This pigeon was the first one to arrive but then left early and now spends all his time trying to convince people the party doesn't exist.

3. David King. Forms most of his opinions based on Champion Data so can't really blame him for thinking we'd cut too deep. He also tends to just say the opposite of what people expect.

4. Kane Cornes. Rated our list pretty accurately when Sam took over but underestimated the potential of the youth. His main criticisms were always with what Clarko had left Sam. The fact Sam has been able to turn it around so quickly is why he rates him so highly. He's an opinionated loud mouth but he's mostly been right and owned up where he was wrong.

Yep. Agree 100%.

Purple #1 by a mile. Glad you brought up the chief AFL journo bit because that was the worst part, used his platform on AFL.com.au to double down every week.

 

[Buckemenico]

That JOM trade for Lloyd Meek is now looking inspired. Good luck characterizing that as tanking.
Barett clearly the worst and used hawthorn hatred to get more clicks. Now looks like a joke. Should not be employed by AFL.

 

[parsons nose]

It will be an immense disappointment if Purple does come around. Where else will we be able to channel our disdain? As for Kingy, not many realise but the laptop that accompanies him to the studio isn’t opened on the champion data website, it’s open on pornhub site.