The never ending Priddis debate - part II
- Thread starter Miguel Sanchez
- Start date
- Tagged users None
- Status
The AFL?
- Jan 13, 2013
- 24,013
- 48,461
- AFL Club
- West Coast
Perhaps because he is the most undeserving winner since Woewodin?
Go back and compare the Brownlow winners to the winners of the player voted MVP, I think you'll get a more accurate picture of who the best player in the league is from any particular year.
Wouldnt get a game at hawthorn or geelong
Does get a game at the flat track bullies fc
Carey and Ablett Sen didn't win it because it is a Best & Fairest award.
Arguably midfielders are mostly the best players in the game.
- Sep 28, 2009
- 23,831
- 34,256
- AFL Club
- West Coast
- Other Teams
- Reading FC
The difference is the Brownlow is voted on a game by game basis so awards actual performance for that year. Same as the coaches award. Priddis done well in both through constistency. MVP is just a popularity award with the players they dont actually analyse individual games.
Again.
It is a Best & Fairest award.
While Priddis is no superstar he sits quite comfortably as a best and FAIREST.
- Banned
- #735
- Jan 13, 2013
- 24,013
- 48,461
- AFL Club
- West Coast
Again, Priddis was not the best and FAIREST player last year. He was not even the best and FAIREST player on our team. The whole argument that I'm making is that he won an award based on a flawed system where people who shouldn't be voting vote based on who they see get the ball the most.
- Jan 13, 2013
- 24,013
- 48,461
- AFL Club
- West Coast
It's voted on a game by game basis by people who have no business casting those votes.
Go back and look at the players MVP and tell me if any of those winners stick out as undeserving. Because you can quite easily go back and look at past Brownlow winners and wonder wtf the umpires were smoking.
Sam mitchell and paul chapman have attributes that allow them to play at afl level.
Just not at geelong or hawthorn as those two clubs are all about winning.
We on the other hand have pinned our hopes on a guy who was overlooked in the draft for a good reason - hes too slow to be an afl mid.
Sure he contributes - and sure we beat up on shit teams with him.
No silverware but
Not sure what point you are trying to make.
Durability is an asset not a detraction.
I'm not suggesting that Priddis is a superstar but a good player who meets the criteria for Brownlow votes.
As far as the Bradbury example that some posters bring up , I find that disrespectful to both sportsmen.
Bradbury trained for six years to qualify for his Olympic event, he qualified for the finals and was the last man standing to win gold. This was just reward for the performances he put in and the performance to win.
Many great winning performances in sport have come from teams and individuals who have come from behind but remained in the contest giving themselves the opportunity.
To denigrate Priddis for his durability , to condemn for him for keeping a cool head is just plain ridiculous.
Fyffe and others who got suspended let themselves down and cost their team.
I am not a huge Priddis fan but believe that his strengths outweigh his weaknesses but I am a great Brownlow fan and as a person who was lucky enough to attended a Brownlow Dinner I realise how special the night is to players and the competition.
You want to win a Brownlow, meet the criteria.
- Sep 28, 2009
- 23,831
- 34,256
- AFL Club
- West Coast
- Other Teams
- Reading FC
Thats because the players always vote the big household names. Ablett could play a year averaging 10 disposals a game and he would still poll high. They vote who they think the best player is not who is necessarily the best performed player over the whole year.
How can I be confusing stats with ability and talent when I never mentioned stats? My verbatim statement was "the majority of the best players end up in the midfield 'cause that's where the ball spends most of the time". If you're going to refute a point you need to ensure such a point has been made.
Your views on the Brownlow are yours and quite frankly are nonsense. If Priddis wasn't the best performed player last year then who was? You'd probably get about 5 different answers from 6 different people. The Brownlow, like every award, isn't perfect because there is no perfect way of making a subjective judgement.
Nice try at a classic Strawman argument, insinuating that I support a flawed system. Flawed by whose judgement? Oh, that's right, yours!
And you continue this NONSENSE that the umpire's performances are affected during the game by having to cast votes after the game. As I said before, totally LAUGHABLE!
Last edited:
Respectfully I think you are missing the point. It is a best and fairest.
Who best to judge Fairest than the umpires who adjudicate the game at close quarters and have a greater understanding of the rules.
All other awards reward "best" only and vote givers are not close enough to the action to see the little indiscretions that happen in the packs.
It is not a flawed system for the criteria that is laid down to score votes.
It is still the most prestigious award in football and has been for many decades.
I suggest that the problem you have for it is the criteria that you have set yourself is not met.
Ablett Sen. was one if the most gifted players to ever play the game but was a bit if a sniper behind the play.
Not adverse to the elbow or fist from behind and had many character flaws.
You must remember despite that talent that he was he was sacked along with his brother from Hawthorn.
He never endeared himself to the umpiring fraternity so was never going to win a Brownlow.
huh?
- Banned
- #746
You know what point I am making but I never said it was a detraction and never said all the other insinuations you are making.
Bit touchy there mate.
My response was related to a few recent posters who don't value the Brownlow and how it is Awarded.
In my opinion you suggested that Priddis may have won the Brownlow because he remained injury free in contrast to others who didn't. Surely this shouldn't be a criticism but a credit to his durability.
If this is not your point please elaborate so I fully understand rather that have just tac something on to my post.
Last edited:
Whatever you base our players worth off is a flawed system. Better to have umpires vote for best and fairest than some of the muppets in this thread.
Sam mitchell delisted and paul chapman let go as geelong were looking to the future
The fact that he got brownlow votes in games where his disposal was lamentable and he had no effect on the game is the elaboration id make.
- Status
Similar threads
- Poll
- Locked
