Oppo Camp The Non-North Footy Discussion & Matchday Chat Thread (NNFD&MCT) IX

[Roostorm]

Is this mythical cliff finally here?

Shhhh….l hope so but let’s not jinx it….( could be wrong ear pieces in ears tonight )

 

[Sillygit]

Is this mythical cliff finally here?

Schroedingers cliff

 

[Marstermind]

I agree - would have kept Williams, Pittard, maybe JMac and either Durdin or Maj. But Mase unequivocally needed a fresh start. Tbh he was never the same after the concussion vs Essendon in 2016.

Then trade him. He was 27. Worth a fourth rounder, or thrown in as some steak knives or something. He was delisted before any other team had finished their season. You gotta at least take the piggy to market.

There's a reason no one took Williams, Pittard or JMac from our hard rubbish. But they were experienced players who were all better than the alternatives we took. So naive to hastily trash so many players whilst we had a rookie coach whose own health was a concern.

 

[Ischenko]

Then trade him. He was 27. Worth a fourth rounder, or thrown in as some steak knives or something. He was delisted before any other team had finished their season. You gotta at least take the piggy to market.

There's a reason no one took Williams, Pittard or JMac from our hard rubbish. But they were experienced players who were all better than the alternatives we took. So naive to hastily trash so many players whilst we had a rookie coach whose own health was a concern.

Yeah that whole period was a catastrophe for which we are still paying, and suffering.

 

[DaveyBoy123]

... Mase unequivocally needed a fresh start. Tbh he was never the same after the concussion vs Essendon in 2016.

Great call. I was up that end behind the goals when it happened and it was the most concerned I have ever been for a North player's wellbeing. It was extremely scary at the time.

Afterwards, he rarely took a mark when there were opponents in the vicinity.

 

[big_e]

Pretty happy about getting on George Wardlaw at $12, tbh. There's always a chance someone gets injured or suspended, it was crazy Reid was that short so early in the season.

 

[Roosurgence]

Can someone remind me again about our rationale in delisting Mason Wood…?

He was a scared shitless cat that couldn’t get a kick in a street fight in his last year with us.

This version of the Mason Wood is not that one at our club. Getting delisted probably was the kick in the arse he needed to get serious about making a fist of it at the level.

He always had the talent, but was a mess with us when we delisted him.

I’ve seen plenty of poor list management decisions, but no one would argue with that one at the time.

 

[koshari]

That conway looks like a young barry stoneham

 

[leighlee13]

I am torn by Richmond winning another game and Geelong losing. Ah F it! Let Geelong lose!!!

 

[Hojuman]

I am torn by Richmond winning another game and Geelong losing. Ah F it! Let Geelong lose!!!

Especially down there !

 

[Roosurgence]

I have to say I prefer the new interpretation. I can also get why Daicos wasn’t pinged. Interestingly, it immediately reminded me of Cunnington getting away with one against Richmond in that great finals win in 2015.

You still need to give the guy trying to win the ball some prior, it can’t be instant holding the ball if you are tackled.

The one I was referring to was one against Garcia where he wins the ball and wasn’t given to time to dispose.

Umpires need to not make it all about the tackler, winning the ball needs to be the purpose of the game, not sweating on someone and tackling.

 

[koshari]

I am torn by Richmond winning another game and Geelong losing. Ah F it! Let Geelong lose!!!

Anyway here come the cats

 

[SpiderBurton22]

That conway looks like a young barry stoneham

Without the talent

 

[Reagan Smash]

Umps can’t adjudicate the rules correctly, so let’s screw the rules even more mid season

 

[Caracas]

Yeah, hindsight is a wonderful thing. I’m more of the opinion that the loss of all our A grade talent (Boomer, Wells, Waite, Scottie, Dal Santo, Higgins, Tarrant, Petrie and, finally, Cunnington) put too much pressure on our solid journeymen (LMac, Atley, McMillan, Wood, Turner, Dumont…) and made them appear worse than the actually were. They were effectively holding the team together. Once we ditched them, we had nothing left. We were literally at ground zero. Right now, our A graders are in kindergarten and our journeymen are struggling to integrate. Snake could see this, despite his other non football-related obsessions.

 

[flojo]

Valid.

But it's indisputable that we cut too hard at the end of 2020. Whilst most of what we cut were balls, Mason had enough to keep around until someone took his spot. Or at least trade for something. Hindsight is 20/20 but kicking him to the curb for nothing was one of a litany of poor list decisions.

from memory he was in our 2s at delisting..... and we were in the covid bubble, and we only had like 4 fit players left and rhys shaw still wasnt playing him. Think it was his lack of forward pressure ???

 

[Caracas]

You still need to give the guy trying to win the ball some prior, it can’t be instant holding the ball if you are tackled.

The one I was referring to was one against Garcia where he wins the ball and wasn’t given to time to dispose.

Umpires need to not make it all about the tackler, winning the ball needs to be the purpose of the game, not sweating on someone and tackling.

I have to say, I think AFL is the best sport in the world. However, it’s absolutely impossible to umpire. I have the utmost respect for umpires. I cannot imagine how they have the strength of mind to put themselves in the firing line like they do. I’m aware that’s a red rag to a bull around these parts.

 

[Caracas]

wE wERe ReBuiLdiNG aNd GoiNg tO The dRAFt.

I’m fully behind that. I just take issue with how we went about our “garage sale”.

 

[hotchilli]

Then trade him. He was 27. Worth a fourth rounder, or thrown in as some steak knives or something. He was delisted before any other team had finished their season. You gotta at least take the piggy to market.

There's a reason no one took Williams, Pittard or JMac from our hard rubbish. But they were experienced players who were all better than the alternatives we took. So naive to hastily trash so many players whilst we had a rookie coach whose own health was a concern.

Wood got overlooked in the drafts and only got picked up as an SSP. Tends to suggest there wasn’t a market out there for him at trade period.

 

[Marstermind]

Wood got overlooked in the drafts and only got picked up as an SSP. Tends to suggest there wasn’t a market out there for him at trade period.

How would we know? We delisted him literally at the first possible moment! Idiocy.

 

[koshari]

North 2017 vibes.

Surely they wont draft as poor as we did fot that period.

 

[hotchilli]

How would we know? We delisted him literally at the first possible moment! Idiocy.

Clubs are talking to agents/players before trade periods begin. Wood's agent would be well aware of what the interest level for Wood is.

So we could have maybe got a fourth rounder for him and not had space to use the pick?

 

[koshari]

Pretty happy about getting on George Wardlaw at $12, tbh. There's always a chance someone gets injured or suspended, it was crazy Reid was that short so early in the season.

How was it crazy, the odds simply reflect the book.

 

[Marstermind]

Clubs are talking to agents/players before trade periods begin. Wood's agent would be well aware of what the interest level for Wood is.

So we could have maybe got a fourth rounder for him and not had space to use the pick?

Like I said. How would we know? What was the rush to delist him?

 

[hotchilli]

Like I said. How would we know? What was the rush to delist him?

Like I said with the first sentence. Clubs are talking to agents/players before trade periods begin.