The off topic thread 6.0

[bok_party]

Perhaps your thoughts are more indicative of you as a person and your (in)ability to uphold ethical standards rather than Trump himself. How can people with “sound morals” not respect human life and dignity? Regardless of your opinion of him, your comment undermines value and respect for human life, something you’ve probably been guilty of accusing Trump of.

If politics cause you to deviate from wanting a peaceful coexistence, then I’d suggest seeking professional help. Venting on here and getting thumbs up from strangers on the internet isn’t the great solution you think it is. Have you tried activism or healthy political discourse? If that doesn’t satisfy the itch and you start normalising things like murder in your mind, then it’s all on you I’m afraid.

Again, I never said that I condone murder. My point was, as Barry has pointed out, is how many reprehensible things Trump has done that have caused people, that majority of the time have the right morals, to question how they would feel about Trump being killed and whether that may be beneficial to society.

I don’t really care what a stranger on a forum says about me to be honest. I know that I’m a good human with great morals.

You’ve decided to try and chastise me on it because of your interpretation of the post. That’s fine that you have it misconstrued. Others have interpreted my post in the correct manner it was intended.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Well they think that ..yeah.

What’s really funny is you not being able to admit you’re a fan

What makes you think I am a fan lol

I despise both of them and I'm not a huge fan of RFK Jr either

 

[DBAH0]

On a lighter note....

 

[Art Vandelay_]

You’ve decided to try and chastise me on it because of your interpretation of the post. That’s fine that you have it misconstrued. Others have interpreted my post in the correct manner it was intended.

I really don't think it should be too hard. You have to ask yourself about the history of the individual.
I read the initial comment and came to the conclusion based on that's how it sounded based on the wording, and, the history of your contributions made a more sinister undertone seem to be an unlikely motivation.

I am not sure why anybody who isn't from the US would want to live there.

I like cabin building timeline videos enough that I'd love to live in the forest up in the largely sparsely deserted north or north western states.. The bears may be an issue as I am not too keen on guns but that's just a minor technicality.

Thank you. Perfect answer. People vote for change when they are dissatisfied with the encumbent. Democrats and left leaning supporters should focus more on their own candidate than worry about Trump.

What makes you think I am a fan lol

I despise both of them and I'm not a huge fan of RFK Jr either

Firstly, to go full Cruyff on you it's incumbent you philistine

I can safely say that a couple key reasons render my interest in US politics on a left v right basis as non existent, it isn't that high for Aus politics tbh either.. but I digress. 1.Gun control. 2. Their absurd approach to health care via a largely capitalist mindset whereby they (Dr's and big pharma) don't aim to keep you alive because that's good for you or the country as a whole, but rather they can extract more money out of you that way. They're a broken nation. I couldn't tell you one tenet of Biden's administration. But I can safely assume they're better than what the wannabe despot has to offer. Inciting a riot because he took his bat and ball and stormed off home something didn't go his way, to all the allegations of impropriety, and the felony convictions are not the qualities one wants in the leader of one of this world's largest nations.

If I was to suddenly become a US citizen, and compulsory voting came in I'd vote Biden purely for how reprehensible Trump is as a human being. He cannot be voted for by any sane person, no matter the opposition the democrats select. This is far different to our last election here, whereby as someone who'd never not voted LNP at an election voted for my local ALP member as voting for Scomo and Dutton to get back in was just not something that seemed logical. Scomo and Biden aren't not similar. Albanese and Labor were a viable alternative, the felon isn't.

That said, there should be a movement within the democrats to move on Biden for someone else and that isn't a pro-trump move that should be interpreted as endorsing the Trump/GOP attacks on Biden as being successful but rather an anti-trump position. Picking someone who doesn't come across half the time as senile would surely increase the chances of Democrat re-election.

As for the last bit maybe I have missed it but the lack of condemnation in recent pages and exchanges for Trump, as well as openly critical of Biden could be leading to the perception you support Trump. Rightly or wrongly.

That said, re-reading the whole exchange back to Sunday, and without wanting to draw the ire of those in charge here given I am on record as not liking the contributor its fair to say, there is a contributor who is passing strong opinions on others on this broad topic who as of right now still has a post that states 'hope he wins' in regards to Trump... And Bok Party is on trial tonight. (insert exasperated reaction here). Make it make sense.

 

[Misher]

Fact is Trump incited a riot because he wouldn’t accept election result. It was the actions of a wannabe tyrant/autocrat. Who would’ve thought in a country that holds itself up as a defender of democracy that a President would openly lie that a result was fixed just like despots do. And then to encourage his loony followers to storm the capitol. Incredibly dangerous that could have escalated to disaster. The fact he incited it is reprehensible. He’s also a habitual liar and a felon. A moronic racist misogynistic women abuser. Basically a real c***. So some people may not feel that sympathetic towards him.

The Supreme Court has given him power to virtually so as he pleases. Sacking experience federal agency workers and replacing them with his inexperienced acolytes. Dangerous

He’s also intimated that the US could pull out of NATO and withdraw support of Ukraine. That could be perceived as very dangerous to Europe and rest of the world.

So if people think this is just normal left v right …you’re kidding yourselves

What you (and a handful of posters on this board) are struggling to differentiate is feeling sympathy for Trump vs not wishing death upon Trump. The former is perfectly acceptable, but the latter is merely indicating a stance against extreme violence and should be the widespread default position amongst posters on this board, especially from a bunch that pride themselves on their strong morals. Allowing human life is one of the fundamental aspects of a strong moral framework.

And yes, I too can list a handful of things Joe Biden has done wrong, like his comments on the Crime Bill which resulted in mass incarceration, particularly impacting black communities, comments on African American voters by stating they “ain’t black” if they dared to vote for another candidate, statements about the Latino community being diverse “unlike the African American community”, conceding he worked with segregationists, accusations of inappropriate behaviour and harassment against women, the handling of certain policies and decisions, his response to domestic economic challenges and healthcare policies, the handling of the withdrawal of troops in Afghanistan, which was poorly timed and executed, resulting in the death of 13 USA service members and 170 Afghan civilians. Oh, then there’s the fact his son, who is a degenerate crackhead (at least Trump’s kids look like functioning members of society), refers to him as a pedophile for which I can see why (sniffing and inappropriately touching children, making disgusting jokes about children, alluding to minors rubbing his legs, etc.). Medical experts have also suggested Joe looks to have an early onset of dementia (Joe refuses to test) and does not appear to be mentally fit to be a leader of the free world and him doing so is not only dangerous (he barely knows what day it is), it’s bordering on elderly abuse. So going by the above, Biden is a racist, misogynistic, incompetent, unfit, presidential candidate with poor decision making and management that have resulted in death, destruction and violence. He also has paedophilic tendencies and has an out of control son with extreme baggage that could jeopardise the safety and security of the USA and furthermore the world. His brain is also so far gone that if he escapes a day without making a hilariously embarrassing fool of himself, it’s considered a success. With that all in mind, do you want him assassinated as well? Would the world be better off without Joe Biden? My answer is still a firm no, as I am a decent person. Yours is also no, but only because this isn’t about decency for you, it’s about politics. And your views on politics are extreme.

It sounds like you want any president that you don’t like/agree with assassinated. My proposal is that instead of saying Trump should be killed, why don’t you say Trump shouldn’t be re-elected? It would solve the vast majority of your aforementioned problems with Trump and he would disappear into irrelevance. That fact that you’re still edging with the idea that killing him would benefit the world is truly sick and I think you need to speak with someone about it (not people on here who seem content with encouraging political violence).

 

[Misher]

Again, I never said that I condone murder. My point was, as Barry has pointed out, is how many reprehensible things Trump has done that have caused people, that majority of the time have the right morals, to question how they would feel about Trump being killed and whether that may be beneficial to society.

I don’t really care what a stranger on a forum says about me to be honest. I know that I’m a good human with great morals.

You’ve decided to try and chastise me on it because of your interpretation of the post. That’s fine that you have it misconstrued. Others have interpreted my post in the correct manner it was intended.

I just pointed out in my post above all the reprehensible things Biden has done. Do you think this warrants people with “right morals” to question how they would feel about Biden being killed and whether that may be beneficial to society?

You do seem like a good person from my limited interactions with you, so I’ll give you some advice. Don’t seek validation from two posters who advocate for murder (one thing you’ve openly opposed) and one person who has a long list of personal abuse, online bullying and harassment. It’s not going to help your “moral” cause.

 

[Cruyff14]

I just pointed out in my post above all the reprehensible things Biden has done. Do you think this warrants people with “right morals” to question how they would feel about Biden being killed and whether that may be beneficial to society?

You do seem like a good person from my limited interactions with you, so I’ll give you some advice. Don’t seek validation from two posters who advocate for murder (one thing you’ve openly opposed) and one person who has a long list of personal abuse, online bullying and harassment. It’s not going to help your “moral” cause.

Are you aware of how patronising you continuously come across or is it intentional? Genuine question.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

What you (and a handful of posters on this board) are struggling to differentiate is feeling sympathy for Trump vs not wishing death upon Trump. The former is perfectly acceptable, but the latter is merely indicating a stance against extreme violence and should be the widespread default position amongst posters on this board, especially from a bunch that pride themselves on their strong morals. Allowing human life is one of the fundamental aspects of a strong moral framework.

And yes, I too can list a handful of things Joe Biden has done wrong, like his comments on the Crime Bill which resulted in mass incarceration, particularly impacting black communities, comments on African American voters by stating they “ain’t black” if they dared to vote for another candidate, statements about the Latino community being diverse “unlike the African American community”, conceding he worked with segregationists, accusations of inappropriate behaviour and harassment against women, the handling of certain policies and decisions, his response to domestic economic challenges and healthcare policies, the handling of the withdrawal of troops in Afghanistan, which was poorly timed and executed, resulting in the death of 13 USA service members and 170 Afghan civilians. Oh, then there’s the fact his son, who is a degenerate crackhead (at least Trump’s kids look like functioning members of society), refers to him as a pedophile for which I can see why (sniffing and inappropriately touching children, making disgusting jokes about children, alluding to minors rubbing his legs, etc.). Medical experts have also suggested Joe looks to have an early onset of dementia (Joe refuses to test) and does not appear to be mentally fit to be a leader of the free world and him doing so is not only dangerous (he barely knows what day it is), it’s bordering on elderly abuse. So going by the above, Biden is a racist, misogynistic, incompetent, unfit, presidential candidate with poor decision making and management that have resulted in death, destruction and violence. He also has paedophilic tendencies and has an out of control son with extreme baggage that could jeopardise the safety and security of the USA and furthermore the world. His brain is also so far gone that if he escapes a day without making a hilariously embarrassing fool of himself, it’s considered a success. With that all in mind, do you want him assassinated as well? Would the world be better off without Joe Biden? My answer is still a firm no, as I am a decent person. Yours is also no, but only because this isn’t about decency for you, it’s about politics. And your views on politics are extreme.

It sounds like you want any president that you don’t like/agree with assassinated. My proposal is that instead of saying Trump should be killed, why don’t you say Trump shouldn’t be re-elected? It would solve the vast majority of your aforementioned problems with Trump and he would disappear into irrelevance. That fact that you’re still edging with the idea that killing him would benefit the world is truly sick and I think you need to speak with someone about it (not people on here who seem content with encouraging political violence).

What a complete rant of rubbish. I believe Biden should step down but your description of him is laughable. Not even Republicans would accuse him of those things ..not even Trump.

 

[Misher]

What a complete rant of rubbish. I believe Biden should step down but your description of him is laughable. Not even Republicans would accuse him of those things ..not even Trump.

Elaborate.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Elaborate.

There’s nothing to say he’s racist or misogynistic. Do you think it’s a coincidence some republicans States are making it harder for blacks to vote? Why do you think Trump was so against postal voting?

 

[Misher]

Are you aware of how patronising you continuously come across or is it intentional? Genuine question.

If I come across as patronising because I have to educate people on why killing someone is a bad thing, then so be it.

 

[Spanish Sahara]

 

[Bostonian]

I don’t condone murder on anyone but the fact Trump makes it ridiculously hard for people with sound morals to even remotely question whether the world would be better off without him speaks volumes.

And those same people with the sound morals will be the same virtue signalers who will be against executing a serial killer.

 

[Bostonian]

There’s nothing to say he’s racist or misogynistic. Do you think it’s a coincidence some republicans States are making it harder for blacks to vote? Why do you think Trump was so against postal voting?

There's plenty out there to show Biden is a racist.

What you mean to say is you didn't pay attention or care enough to look into the guy to know this.

He opposed bussing for one .

"Joe Biden didn't just compromise with segregationists. He fought for their cause in schools, experts say."

If you don't vote for Biden, you ain't black.

Slave master mentality right there.

 

[Cruyff14]

If I come across as patronising because I have to educate people on why killing someone is a bad thing, then so be it.

You've not actually answered the question though?

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

There's plenty out there to show Biden is a racist.

What you mean to say is you didn't pay attention or care enough to look into the guy to know this.

He opposed bussing for one .

"Joe Biden didn't just compromise with segregationists. He fought for their cause in schools, experts say."

If you don't vote for Biden, you ain't black.

Slave master mentality right there.

There were reasons. But he’s been praised for his civil rights work.



And judging by voting in 2020 blacks don’t think he’s racist …

 

[Bostonian]

There were reasons. But he’s been praised for his civil rights work.

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And judging by voting in 2020 blacks don’t think he’s racist …

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There were no reasons.

He happily worked with Dixiecrats like Strom Thurmond.

I mean he said...

"Unless we do something about this, my children are going to grow up in a jungle, the jungle being a racial jungle with tensions having built so high that it is going to explode at some point. We have got to make some move on this."

That's a man who didn't want his nice white Delaware schools overrun with black kids.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

There were no reasons.

He happily worked with Dixiecrats like Strom Thurmond.

I mean he said...

"Unless we do something about this, my children are going to grow up in a jungle, the jungle being a racial jungle with tensions having built so high that it is going to explode at some point. We have got to make some move on this."

That's a man who didn't want his nice white Delaware schools overrun with black kids.

But the facts say something completely different..

VERIFY: Fact vs. fiction on Joe Biden’s quote about busing leading to ‘a racial jungle’

Here is what the Democratic presidential candidate actually said in a 1977 Senate hearing.

www.13newsnow.com

 

[DBAH0]

Biden has Covid now also.

 

[Bostonian]

But the facts say something completely different..

VERIFY: Fact vs. fiction on Joe Biden’s quote about busing leading to ‘a racial jungle’

Here is what the Democratic presidential candidate actually said in a 1977 Senate hearing.

www.13newsnow.com

His actions and words show he's a racist.

It's why he did a eulogy for a former KKK member.

It's why he thought:

"I mean, you got the first mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”

That sounds racist does it not?

Then this:

"Biden praised then-Mississippi Sen. John Stennis, a staunch segregationist as a "hero" and "the rockbound integrity of the United States Congress" in the 1980s. Biden called Stennis "a hell of a guy" in 2008.

For someone who isn't a racist he sure seemed to like praising and working with those Dixiecrats a lot.

Then he said:

"In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent."

Guy is a political grifter who has that good ole Democrat slave master mentality.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

I mean, you got the first mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a storybook, man

A gaffe which he apologised and both Obama and Jackson said wasnt taken as racist

Sen. Biden apologizes for remarks on Obama

Sen. Joseph Biden has launched his bid for the White House on the issue of Iraq, but on Wednesday his campaign was sidetracked over race. [!]

www.nbcnews.com

Biden praised then-Mississippi Sen. John Stennis, a staunch segregationist as a "hero" and "the rockbound integrity of the United States Congress" in the 1980s. Biden called Stennis "a hell of a guy" in 2008.

Not quite the full story..

CNN's Facts First searchable database - CNN

Search CNN’s Facts First database for fact checks related to the U.S. economy, mail-in voting, coronavirus, police reform and more.

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In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent."

Not full story..

The full quote reads: "I've had a great relationship. In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking.” Biden continued to say the “30% of the CEOs in Silicon Valley are Indian-American”.
On the matter, a spokesperson told NBC that Biden was pointing out “that there has been a vibrant Indian-American community in Delaware for decades.” ( here )

We can go on like this forever ..you quoting Trump fanatic sites me counter..etc. Boring

 

[Bostonian]

A gaffe which he apologised and both Obama and Jackson said wasnt taken as racist

Sen. Biden apologizes for remarks on Obama

Sen. Joseph Biden has launched his bid for the White House on the issue of Iraq, but on Wednesday his campaign was sidetracked over race. [!]

www.nbcnews.com

Not quite the full story..

CNN's Facts First searchable database - CNN

Search CNN’s Facts First database for fact checks related to the U.S. economy, mail-in voting, coronavirus, police reform and more.

edition.cnn.com

Not full story..




We can go on like this forever ..you quoting Trump fanatic sites me counter..etc. Boring

Yes we can.

In the end only one of the belongs to the most racist political party in the history of the US.

And it ain't Trump.

Though he was a Democrat for a long time so...

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Yes we can.

In the end only one of the belongs to the most racist political party in the history of the US.

And it ain't Trump.

Though he was a Democrat for a long time so...

You’re not even reading back any of my replies that refute your accusations.

 

[Bostonian]

You’re not even reading back any of my replies that refute your accusations.

I am.

They read like the same old Democrat shill deflections that have been spouted before.

"A gaffe" "he apologised".

That's 100% his thoughts. He apologised because that's what grifter politicians do when they are told by their handler they were exposed.

Politicians like him will do and say anything that they think will get them votes. That's why he's been a shit lord grifter for over 40+ years.

A perfect example of why people should be encouraged to vote for third parties.

 

[Misher]

You've not actually answered the question though?

I responded. That’s all you’re getting.